drifting...

[Putonyourshoes]

hey guys... im looking to get started on track racing and possibly some drifting a bit later on...
im a p-plater so i can legally drive a turbo car on the road so i was thinking of buying a car and driving it on the track only.. my dad is pretty keen on the idea so now..
i need to find a car..
i have a budget of around $7500 but im willing to save my pennies to around 10,000 and i was hoping to get something that is eithe super or turbocharged. and something that is going to be able to shred some tires for a while to come..
i was thinking a 180sx with a ca20 conversion or maybe even just a turbo 1.8

any suggestions?

[hks_kansei]

you could buy my rear wheel drive 626 and spend the cash you save on putting in a rotary or an MX5 engine. :)



if you are doing drifting or any curcuit work, start off with an older cheaper car, much cheaper to maintain/repair. and it wont hurt as much when you break something.


I would suggest an old RX7, an S1 would rock!

[Putonyourshoes]

there not thatttt cheap.. and i know nothing of rotaries hahahahaha

[hks_kansei]

I've seen S1 rx7s go for as little as $2000.


another common/easy one is an old RWD corolla (or sprinter) and swap in a 4agze (code may be wrong, but the supercharged 4age)

[marcs_sp20]

I think u would be better off settling with a 180sx or silvia, with either the SR20 or CA18 (bare in mind availability of parts will be far better off with teh SR motor) and going from there, and as u said, its mainly goin to be used for the track so u really dont need anything that looks pretty, merely something that will serve its purpose :p.

What I would put money to..

Car: $6000
Rims & tyres (possibly multiple sets?): $1500-$2000
Suspension: $1000 (depending on what set-up u go for)
Engine Mods: $1000 (also depending on set-up)

So all up thats $10k, so really I would think saving for a little while longer..

Hope that helps

marc

[FEM]

I have a Skyline GTR track only vehicle. - Gun Metal Grey

It has the best tyres you can buy on them, 7k worth of suspension - ALL HKS. This vehicle is fully stripped inside ready for race, roll cage is taken out along with gauges.

Toe in/out bars
Coilovers - Best ones HKS make
Control Arms,
Castor Rods
Cusco Strut braces
Sway bars

Its got a Kakimoto Exhaust on it
HKS oil cooler
HUGE front mount, and i mean its HUGE!!!
5 core fully aluminum radiator, custom built
The beefest HKS clutch package you can get
LE Kakimoto rims - You CANT buy these rims new anymore
Full HKS FMIC kit
HKS SSQV BOV


The list goes on and on

Its getting a fresh rebuild soon from a club member so it'll be running like absolute GOLD ;) This is a stunning vehicle and so much fun to be in.

Asking 12k for it. These are the funnest car to get sideways, the RB26 is the most saught after motor of the modern day.

[Cosmo Dude]

Find a car club and join up first then drop in on some track days and see what everone else is driving and the type of mods they have.
Club level motorsport isn't about racing door handle to door handle it's about improving your time and improving your skills.
I've known a lot of people start with an Rx-7 but the pick is the SII, better brakes and suspension than the SI and better cooling than the SIII

[RedLineResident]

I say be a stereotype to begin with and get the 180sx or silvia. Relatevelly cheap and easy to get parts.

SR20 is the go because it is a more reliable engine, more bolt on mods and more parts out there. Good Luck with it all.

[bourbon]

dont get silvia or 180sx...hard to get parts for now days go for a R32 or a R33...theyd be ya best bet...

[Smikey]

Trueno 86 ;)

I don't know much about drifting, and not much about rotaries either, but when you're thrashing the ****e out of it at high rpm to keep your wheels spinning sounds like it's going to be a costly, engine oil chewing, apex seal blowing car to maintain?

I'd go with a nissan, probably a 180 personally.

[OZY-323]

32's are becoming a norm on the drift circuit, but 180's aren't cutting it against the 32's anymore...S15's are probably what your after but with that budget your dreaming. save some more your gonna need a fair bit to build a drift car!!

[bourbon]

jump onto the website secretdrift.com the guys on there are who you should talk tooo!!!good thing about the nissans is there is heaps of aftermarket stuff out there to get...but dont expect anythin to be cheap...get the last months issue of high performance racing, and my mate from works drift car is in there...

[Abaddon]

This looks pretty cheap to me

$7500 http://www.antrx.com/smf/index.php/topic,12376.0.html
For an import U13. It's ATTESA though so it'd be better for circuit than drift

Also running a SR20DET. They're pretty available by the way, one of the guys on there is importing that engine all the time $1495 plus $100-150 postage http://www.antrx.com/smf/index.php?topic=13927.0;topicseen

[Putonyourshoes]

i found this...http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/TOYOTA/SPRINTER/details.aspx?__sid=1137498FC7FE&Cr=0&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCo unt_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&State=New%20South%20Wales&distance=25&silo=1003&seot=0&__Nne=20&Model=SPRINTER&R=1775351&__N=4294962861+80+4294964187+834+285+257&Make=TOYOTA&state_id=80&trecs=8

its a bit more expensive... and may have been thrashed quite badly.. but its got everything i need to safely learn hahahaha
keep the suggestions coming guys:)

[bourbon]

that looks good bro :p hahaha all ya need to do is change the colour and your all set ;)

[Putonyourshoes]

yeah i would rather stab my eyes out than drive a yellow and red car. i realllyyyy want that hahahahaha
but by the time i get the rest of the money it will be goneeeee
and i have to buy a trailor tooooo:(

[bourbon]

ohh yeah...well just get the car...hire a trailer...and then save for a trailer...talk to ya pa for the rest of the dough :p tell him it could be a father son project or something silly hahaha

[DavoAust]

damn that would be a fun car. yeah the trailer and car would break your budget a bit though. still its like the ideal track car, not so much a drifter but you could change that

[bourbon]

nah even how it is you might be able to get away with drift...the supercharger would wanna be makin it good...hahaha but as soon as the turbo will get bolted on jeeeeze youd do it easily...

[Putonyourshoes]

yeah it comes with a turbo... fun fun fun.. i really want one.. pa wont lend me money hahahaha i still owe him for my astina.. hahaha but gosh that car would be amazinggg....

[GISS-90BG]

Silvia/180/R32 are decent, but they're still relatively pricey. Building and running a drift car is going to be much more than a one off cost as well, and the 180's and Silvia's aren't the most reliable things ever. And for sub-10k, your not getting a great buy if your looking at a turbs 180/Silvia. Even for a CA18.

Why not think about a 5spd R31? If it's just for track use, get something that's A1 mechanically, strip it all down, roll cage, get exhaust done maybe and sort the suspension out for under 10k easy. Wouldn't feel too bad if you pranged it either, unlike a 32 or a 180. That's what I'd do, anyway.

Also, just to add to that - a bit of a left field suggestion...

http://prestigemotorsport.com.au

These guys are importers and every now and again they have Track Only imports come up for sale. You've got all the associated difficulties with the importing and so on... but if your really looking for a potential bargain, there's some crazy deals to be had with those guys. Saw a 99' RX7 Turb for under 10k with bugger all kms the other day.

[Putonyourshoes]

sick thanks for that ill keep an eye out:)
do you race?

[GISS-90BG]

Nah I don't. At some stage I certainly plan to though. Probably through track days if I get the Astina to the stage where it will be fun to race, or when I upgrade to something bigger and better.

[Putonyourshoes]

yeah true..
some of that stuff on that site is well cheap!
ill save my money.. hahahaha

[GISS-90BG]

yeah true..
some of that stuff on that site is well cheap!
ill save my money.. hahahaha

Certainly is. :p Don't worry, it's not dodgey stuff either. But just be aware the listed prices don't include everything. You've still got some compliancing fees, maybe regency, tyres sometimes and rego.

Importing can certainly get you some very cheap, nice cars, never the less.

[MAztinA 323]

if its ur 1st track car i suggest not getting a rotary as you'll get about 2 laps out of it before replacing an apex seal hehe - ie they may sound cheap to buy outright and if u keep it stock as ever and keep the revs down it'll go well, but some of my mates are using a gen 1 rx7 for track and its costing them sooo much!

you can get a half decent turbo 180 (or especially s13) for sub 10k with the basic mods (prob sr20det s13 or possibly even sr20det 180), but i'd go for that if i was drifting more.. although they would get u around the track faster than an na astina. and as they're so common it'll be much easier to get parts for than most other imports (esp the sr20)

not sure how much it is it buy a converted lancer/gsr/evo 3 lookalike, but if u wanna drift later go something else

i think for 10k u can just get an mr2 (like 90 model with turbo) but it wouldnt be the nicest one.. but still they're rwd mid engine and turbo but will snap back quick when ur drifting

[applio]

toyota AE86 FTW

[bourbon]

heaps of guys use the later rx7s. s4/5 s6/7/8 for drift and they dont have many issues...youve gotta look at the side...im drifting, im learning to drift, theres walls on the track, im going to damage the car, i need to replace stuff on the car...get something in the mid 90s id stay away from a r31 skyline as hard to get parts for...silvias and 180s are expensive and hard to find parts for...

we occasionally get rx7 track cars in...go for around $7500...nothin needed to be done really...just gotta put engine in properly as for it to be a non registerable car you gotta bring the body in one container and the engine in another...

[GISS-90BG]

31's hard to get parts for? You mean performance parts or parts in general? They're common and cheap as crapola. Check out some of the youtube vids of them drifting with stock engines too, they have plenty of kick.

[hks_kansei]

also remember that with the R31 you can use any mods/turbos for the VL commo turbo as they sahre the RB30e

another common mod for the R31 is to create an RB30Det, basically you take an RB30 block, an RB25 twin cam head, and RB25 twin cam ecu (or maybe a piggyback or something).



also, I'm pretty sure a lot of R31 people fit R32 mod parts into them farily easily.


this is all just crap I've read over the years, ask on sau if you need skyline info.

[bourbon]

parts are getting harder to get know days for them...just parts in general...weve got some...but finding parts in alright condition are hard...you can put any engine in it you want reallly...

[RedLineResident]

Drifting is an expensive sport. The amount of tires and clutches that you are going to burn through, not to mention the mechanical stress it creates on the car. I say get a mitsibushi galant AWD or an evoIII and you will be set. Racing that is, you won't be able to drift them but it may be less to fund one of the these and still hang around the racing circuit. You will still have fun and will get a rush.

[hks_kansei]

there's a wrecking yard that has parts for quite a few older and hard to find cars. they probably have a few R31's in the yard?


Wunghnu Auto Wreckers. they're in Northern Victoria.


without them my old Mazda wouldnt be running still, they have about 4 of them!!!!

[Putonyourshoes]

nahh i would rather go for straight rwd so i have all options open.. like drift.. tarmac rally and race..

[GISS-90BG]

http://www.carpoint.com.au/used-car/NISSAN/SKYLINE/New%20South%20Wales/csn1878648.aspx

Yummy.

[DavoAust]

oooo i like. its got the rb20DET and up spec drivetrain. the only problem i forsee is the nismo clutch dying and costing a bomb to replace. its a twin plate so it should hold up to some abuse though.

hell its even roadworthy. the only thing is its only got 132k km on it, buts its 20 years old, i'd be expecting more km.

[bourbon]

maybe on that engine...or has been kept in a garage for a long timeeee

[DavoAust]

yeah they probably rolled it back to whatever the engine had on it. i dislike that, i reckon it should keep the body km, it says more about the chassis and suspension etc condition

[Mad Mat]

hmmm that engine doesn't look like an rb20..

[GISS-90BG]

He wouldn't have wound the clock back, just posting it as engine kms. I'd guess its done 200ish.

Still, you have to agree, for $5.5k, there's not much better out there for entry level drift. Leaves him $3-5k left over as well.

Here's a vid of a 31 with a stock Rb30 doing some skids... http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kb-5UfXUczQ

[project.r.racing]

Find a car club and join up first then drop in on some track days and see what everone else is driving and the type of mods they have. Club level motorsport isn't about racing door handle to door handle it's about improving your time and improving your skills.Agreed - all other info in this thread is 2 or 3 steps ahead of where you are at at the moment.

ryan

[GISS-90BG]

True, but that wasn't the question he asked.

[Bear]

*shakes head*
now there's a question that has no answer ... which car should you use to learn drifting in ... in all honesty ... something cheap ... well balanced ... and not too powerful ... as crazy as it sounds, that is one piece of Initial D wisdom that translates into real life ... you will learn more about balance and line ... afterwards, you can go hunting more power ...

personally, I'd say go looking for something like a Sylvia ... they're now at the cheaper end ... can have a heap of parts transplanted from the rest of the Nissan range (e.g. brakes and the RB20T or RB25T out of a skyline) ... and you can start with a CA18DET/SR20DET ... as you get more assured, you can upgrade components and there is a plentiful supply of spares available through any importer

just remember ... racing of any kind costs money ... especially when you rely on being out of control

[DavoAust]

well i'd assume learner drift = at least one crash, be it a pancake into a wall or what. you should be looking for something with lower power, you don't want anything crazy, something you can repair easily. on your own or with help and something with cheap parts.

i'd suggest the cheapest RWD you can find with around 110kW, strong box and a stiff chassis (or can be easily stiffened). appart from the strong box bit a s13 fits the bill. you can find aftermarket parts easily enough, theres a huge amount of info out there and you can panel beat/bog/repair it easily enough.

as much as i prefer the s14, it costs more, there are fewer of them in aus (so more $$$ for parts) and i haven't seen as many doing the drifting circuit so i'd assume there is less info out there.

ideally a s13 with sr20det with R33 GTR box would be perfect for power, chassis and a stronger gearbox, but it'd cost more.

remember, you will crash it, its drifting, everyone crashes sooner or later. so don't go for $$$ bodykit or bits you can't afford to lose

[bourbon]

theres quiet a few s14s out there...there coming into the age bracket for the drifters...s15s arnt quiet there just yet...theres only a few s15s...

also there are quiet often shortages on silvia panels and so on...silvia engines can sometimes be a pain to find...i remember only about 4months ago...no wreckers in aus had a decent bonnet, and you couldnt even get fiberglass/carbonfiber ones as all the guys took them instead of the origionals...guards are hard to find good condition ones, but you lucky you can get fiberglass ones... but hey, the s13s are gettin expensive, sorry if this doesnt sound nice but if no one is willing to listen stiff **** :p...

go for a mid 90s car...dont go soarer or supra from the toyota range...theres alot more 180sx parts avaliable, because they made standard aftermarket replacement panels :D an r32 or r33 is your best bet though...be warned any of the gearboxs in the nissan imports are weak when you do stupid driving...hint, stick to small boost but strong engine and light body, all the drifters out there go for biggest power...doesnt always work as there the guys who are always having issues with the cars (blowing up engines, turbos)

[DavoAust]

i'm assuming you mean r33 gts not gtr? 180SX would be a good alternative

[bourbon]

yeah non gtr...

[MAztinA 323]

heaps of guys use the later rx7s. s4/5 s6/7/8 for drift and they dont have many issues...youve gotta look at the side...im drifting, im learning to drift, theres walls on the track, im going to damage the car, i need to replace stuff on the car...get something in the mid 90s id stay away from a r31 skyline as hard to get parts for...silvias and 180s are expensive and hard to find parts for...

we occasionally get rx7 track cars in...go for around $7500...nothin needed to be done really...just gotta put engine in properly as for it to be a non registerable car you gotta bring the body in one container and the engine in another...


rx7s dont have issues? umm no. have cooling issues, not to mention hard to get panels (as they're rarer than some other imports) and the constant work/replacement of apex seals and the like (look at carsales etc for rx7s-almost all of them will say 'recently rebuilt from *some rotary shop* - that may sound good getting a reconditioned engine but if ur gonna treat it bad expect to be doing the same).

stay away from r31s? umm no. cheap as chips to buy, cheap as chips to get panels for. cheap as chips to get engine parts for (look how many guys have fully hetic vl's). if ur on a budget get an r31, chop some s13 springs, weld the diff and you've got an awesome bucket of metal to get sideways in.


also 180s are a bitch to get/fix popup headlights (hence the reason why nissan brought out the sil80 with s13 headlights cause they're cheaper and lighter)

[bourbon]

nissan bought out the sil80??? i thought it was some street cred kids who did it...if ya driftin ya dont need the lights to stay down or stay up...

how come when ever i goto the drifts i see several rx7s out there...not 1 of them has any issues...any things series 4/5 series 6/7/8 we basically get...there alot easier to get parts for as there a new car than the r31s...

[DavoAust]

bourbs, its well know that rotaries being used on the track require regular rebuilds, even street driven ones do sooner or later. they need all new seals, plus anything series 3 and down has cooling issues.

bourbs for the price he could just about buy a second r31 in decent condition for a parts car, and barely break the 10k budget.

doesn't the 180sx use the same wheelbase/chassis as the s13? 240sx the same as s14 just different suspension?

[bourbon]

180sx and silvia are both s13s and run same chassis and dash...different rear panels and front panels...but you can easily swap the silvias front onto the 180sx...and all the rad support and rails are the same...

s14s and 200sx are the same chassis once again but theres a series 2...with more sharper looking front...rear is the same...

the the 240sx is the s15 (from memory) and then thats a different body all together...

[MAztinA 323]

yea 180 same chassis as s13. just different (and imho uglier panels) on the s13 :P

and yea a lot of kids do do the sil80 conversions themselves (cause same chassis/mounting points etc) but nissan sort of brought some sil80s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sileighty) out which were more drift spec-age'd than normal 180s. and this also featured in initial d (note the hotness of the chick on the left :P )
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5688/idextrastagepickf6.jpg

[skitz]

(note the hotness of the chick on the left :P )
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5688/idextrastagepickf6.jpg

you know she isn't real yea?

[Rupewrecht]

No, the 240SX is the nonturbo S14 that the US got, as they didn't get the turbo S14.

[bourbon]

if you read it it says a shop started to do it, and "POSSIBLY" sold through nissan...i dont think they ever were..and the better looking front is just a TYPE X look..

[bourbon]

was the s15 a 280sx then???

[Rupewrecht]

the S15 was a 200SX/Silvia, as was the S14 and S14A

[bourbon]

i no the s14 was a 200sx...just differnt series...

[DavoAust]

ok here it is

S13 [global] = 180SX (CA18DET, SR20DE/T) [japan] = 240SX (KA24E/DE) [US] = 200SX (CA18DET) [Europe/South Africa]

S14 (SR20DE/T) = 270R (up-spec 270hp 1994 S14) [Japan] = 240SX (KA24DE) [Japan/US]

S15 (SR20DE/T) = Varietta (Custom build convertible by Autech)

Any all all of the variants were label as 180 or 200 or 240 because of engine capacity. the s15 was never offically redesignated but is often called the 200SX as it uses the 2.0L SR20DE/T

[hks_kansei]

the s15 was never offically redesignated but is often called the 200SX as it uses the 2.0L SR20DE/T

Genuine Aust delivered ones were called 200sx i beleive.




the US spec ones were called 240sx because they used a K seried engine instead of our (and Japan's) CA and SR's

K24 i think it was?

[project.r.racing]

ok here it is

S13 [global] = 180SX (CA18DET, SR20DE/T) [japan] = 240SX (KA24E/DE) [US] = 200SX (CA18DET) [Europe/South Africa]

S14 (SR20DE/T) = 270R (up-spec 270hp 1994 S14) [Japan] = 240SX (KA24DE) [Japan/US]

S15 (SR20DE/T) = Varietta (Custom build convertible by Autech)

Any all all of the variants were label as 180 or 200 or 240 because of engine capacity. the s15 was never offically redesignated but is often called the 200SX as it uses the 2.0L SR20DE/Twrongish - there were many different versions and only the 180 was close to being near the engine capacity + name stuff you said.

and the 180SX was modelled RPS13 (CA18) wasn't it. S13 was the siliva (CA18 also.) wasn't until later versions that the SR20 engines came onto the market. the 240SX was from S14 onwards, i think???

[project.r.racing]

ANYWAYS!!!
MOST OF THE INFO PEOPLE ARE GIVING YOU IS NOT GONNA HELP YOU IN THIS THREAD!!!
TOO MANY NOT KNOWING MUCH ABOUT DRIFTIN.'

Go talk to some people that are actually drifters. Visit a few drift days in your area and see what is being used and how cheap/expensive they are. Not a FWD based forum that know little or nothing about RWD cars. Or compete or help in any forms of motorsport.

As both Cosmo and 1 have said - 1st step is to join a club. As you need a CAMS license to drift and practice in Australia!!!

A cheap R31 Skyline is the way to go. Don't be looking at anything for a 1st time drifter that has turbo or under 15 years old. There are heaps of cheap performance parts for R31s and even turbo applications if you wanna go down that road later on. So:-

Turbo = yes/no
RX7 = no!!!
S14 = no!!!
R33 = no (too much money to spend making it balanced)

S13 = yes/no
R31 = yes

Link below is a mate's bro 's red R31 in action at our last motrkhana. He brought the car for $1100 and put in a R200 LSD for $400.
http://astinagt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10258

Ryan

p.s. Look at www.r31skylineclub.com, I have a few friends there.

[bourbon]

ryry yes it was about 92 the silvia and 180sx S13s came out with a SR20...and YAY i no nothing about drifting what so ever :p

[hks_kansei]

easy fix, since nobody can decide, just drift your FWD.

hydro handbrake + super stiff rear sways


c'mon, even though people will tell you you cant drift FWD they are full of crap. you can drift FWD, it's just the definition of what a "drift" is that people cant decide on.

[Rupewrecht]

Any all all of the variants were label as 180 or 200 or 240 because of engine capacity. the s15 was never offically redesignated but is often called the 200SX as it uses the 2.0L SR20DE/T

No, i disagree with that. How do you explain the S13 that come with the SR20 then? It was still called a 180SX/Silvia.

The official name here for the S15 was the 200SX.

And you forgot to say the S12->S15 were actually called the Silvia in Japan.

[Astro Boy]

MOST OF THE INFO PEOPLE ARE GIVING YOU IS NOT GONNA HELP YOU IN THIS THREAD!!!
What?!?!?! I thought you got your license to drift off the happy meal box....

[DavoAust]

No, i disagree with that. How do you explain the S13 that come with the SR20 then? It was still called a 180SX/Silvia.

The official name here for the S15 was the 200SX.

And you forgot to say the S12->S15 were actually called the Silvia in Japan.

yep i forgot that aust got the 200SX S15, the only country that did. the S13 and 180SX with the SR20 retained their names mostly as thats what that body had been named and was know as. Essentially Nissan didn't want to change the names as they were well know and to modifiers its was still the 180SX with a different engine.

I assumed everyone would know that Japan S's were Silvia's. there was also a Silvia in Europe.

[GISS-90BG]

[QUOTE=project.r.racing;149998]
Go talk to some people that are actually drifters. Visit a few drift days in your area and see what is being used and how cheap/expensive they are. Not a FWD based forum that know little or nothing about RWD cars. Or compete or help in any forms of motorsport.

As both Cosmo and 1 have said - 1st step is to join a club. As you need a CAMS license to drift and practice in Australia!!!

A cheap R31 Skyline is the way to go. Don't be looking at anything for a 1st time drifter that has turbo or under 15 years old. There are heaps of cheap performance parts for R31s and even turbo applications if you wanna go down that road later on. So:-

Turbo = yes/no
RX7 = no!!!
S14 = no!!!
R33 = no (too much money to spend making it balanced)

S13 = yes/no
R31 = yes
[QUOTE]


Agreed. The point is, a r31 or something of that age/class might not appeal to people as a drift car, or aesthetically, but its the only decent bet for something under $10,000, as the OP stated. Reason you see RX-7s, 180s out at the drifts is because they've had thousands poured into maintaining and modding them. They're ideal, but not a starting point for a beginner.

[RedLineResident]

Get a cheap rear wheel celica. $1200. Get 1JZ and put in $7500. $8700 you have an insane drift car leacing you with $1300 to spend on Suspension and wheels.

Thats what a mate of mine is doing. Can't beat it and I can testify that a stock hatch rear wheel celica (1985 build) is a quiet reasonable car t drift. Ive done it. When it gets the 1JZ conversion it will eat some of the 180s and silvias out there.

[Putonyourshoes]

hey guys. sorry to bump such an old thread.. but i may have found a suitable corolla to give this idea a real kick in the balls.
the only issue is, by the time i buy it (my budget has become more realistic) there will be no money left over for a 4agte conversion like i was originally thinking of doing.. so yeah. does anyone know how well a 1.3 liter ke70 slides until i can afford the conversiopn?:P
sorry for bumping this yet again..

[DavoAust]

well i was reading an article a while back from a D1 driver in Japan, he said the best fun he ever had drifting was in a 88hp rolla

personally i would love to get my hands on an AE86 and use it purely as a track car

[Putonyourshoes]

yeaaah but sprinters are so freakin expensive now:(
they sell for 4k as a rolling shell!

[project.r.racing]

KE70 are okayish to good drifters. I have some pics around here somewhere... Stay tuned.

[Putonyourshoes]

yeah that sounds cool ryan cheers.
are they fairly restricted to the wet or can they go okay dry aswell?
cheers

[project.r.racing]

try www.ke70.com also. you'll find some useful info there.

also a friend of a friend has a ke70 with the 4age swap done. i'll ask him about it too for you and get back to you.

ryan

[rambo]

We used to get my mates old KE70 to slide with the stock motor, it can be done, but it helps if you have a bit of power :p

How far do you want to go with the 4agte? Realistically you could buy a cheap 4age smallport for a few hundred, slap a small turbo on it, and run a little bit of boost through it. With good tuning and cooling, you shouldn't really have any major issues.

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well i was thinking of just getting a 4k and running with that to see how i like it and how i go then drop a 4agte in. but i dont know enough about it yet thats all