ABOUT: What kind of Astina is mine?

[Rupewrecht]

due to all the newbies asking (not that that's a bad thing...)

Astinas are commonly referred to as BG , or BA or BJ on this site.

It helps to know which model you're asking about as they're all different. Australian releases too.

so:

BG - 1989 - 1994/6
Hatch:
http://www.mazda.com.au/articles/images/p323_15.gif
BG10P1 Astina Hatch - 1.8 SOHC - July 1989 - Feb 1991
BG10P1 Astina Hatch SP - 1.8 DOHC - July 1989 - Feb 1991
BG10P2 Astina Hatch - 1.8 SOHC - March 1991 - May 1994
BG10P2 Astina Hatch SP - 1.8 DOHC - March 1991 - May 1994
Sedan:
http://www.mazda.com.au/articles/images/p323_16.gif
BG1061 323 Sedan - 1.6 SOHC - July 1989 - Feb 1991
BG10P1 323 Sedan - 1.8 SOHC - July 1989 - Feb 1991
BG1062 323 Sedan - 1.6 SOHC - March 1991 - May 1996
BG10P2 323 Sedan - 1.8 SOHC - March 1991 - May 1996

BA - 1994-1998 (CBA)
Hatch:
http://www.mazda.com.au/articles/images/p323_19.gif
BA11P1 Astina Hatch - 1.8 DOHC - May 1994 - Aug 1995
BA11F1 Astina Hatch - 2.0 V6 - May 1994 - Aug 1995
BA11P2 Astina Hatch - 1.8 DOHC - Aug 1995 - Oct 1996
BA11F2 Astina Hatch - 2.0 V6 - Aug 1995 - Oct 1996
BA11P3 Astina Hatch - 1.8 DOHC - Oct 1996 - May 1998
BA11F3 Astina Hatch - 2.0 V6 - Oct 1996 - May 1998
Sedan:
http://www.mazda.com.au/articles/images/p323_20.gif
BA11P1 Astina Hardtop - 1.8 DOHC - May 1994 - Aug 1995
BA11F1 Astina Hardtop - 2.0 V6 - May 1994 - Aug 1995
BA11P2 Astina Hardtop - 1.8 DOHC - Aug 1995 - Oct 1996
BA11F2 Astina Hardtop - 2.0 V6 - Aug 1995 - Oct 1996
BA11P3 Astina Hardtop - 1.8 DOHC - Oct 1996 - May 1998
BA11F3 Astina Hardtop - 2.0 V6 - Oct 1996 - May 1998

BHA - 1994-1998
also known as BH, BHA, and BA
http://www.mazda.com.au/articles/images/p323_21.gif
BH1161 Protegé - 1.6 DOHC - June 1994 - Aug 1995
BH11P1 Protegé - 1.8 DOHC - June 1994 - Aug 1995
BH1162 Protegé - 1.6 DOHC - Aug 1995 - Oct 1996
BH11P2 Protegé - 1.8 DOHC - Aug 1995 - Oct 1996
BH1163 Protegé - 1.6 DOHC - Oct 1996 - May 1998
BH11P3 Protegé - 1.8 DOHC - Oct 1996 - May 1998

BJ - 1998-2001
BJ10M1 Astina Hatch - 1.6 DOHC - May 1998 - February 2001
BJ10M1 Protegé Sedan - 1.6 DOHC - May 1998 - February 2001
BJ10P1 Astina Hatch - 1.8 DOHC - May 1998 - February 2001
BJ10P1 Protegé Sedan - 1.8 DOHC - May 1998 - February 2001

BJII - 2001-2002
http://www.mazda.com.au/articles/images/sp20_02.gif
http://www.mazda.com.au/articles/images/323_01.gif
http://www.mazda.com.au/articles/images/323_prot_03.gif
BJ10P2 Astina Hatch - 1.8 DOHC - February 2001 - June 2002
BJ10P2 Protegé Sedan - 1.8 DOHC - February 2001 - June 2002
BJ10S2 Astina Hatch SP20 - 2.0 DOHC - February 2001 - June 2002
BJ10S2 Protegé Sedan Special Edition - 2.0 DOHC - April 2002 - June 2002

BJII-J48 - 2002-2003
BJ10P2 Astina Hatch - 1.8 DOHC - June 2002 - December 2003
BJ10P2 Protegé Sedan - 1.8 DOHC - June 2002 - December 2003
BJ10S2 Astina Hatch SP20 - 2.0 DOHC - June 2002 - December 2003
BJ10S2 Protegé Sedan SP20 - 2.0 DOHC - June 2002 - December 2003

BK - 2004-Current
BK10F1 3 Hatch - 2.0 DOHC - January 2004 - Current
BK10F1 3 Sedan - 2.0 DOHC - January 2004 - Current
BK1031 3 Hatch SP23- 2.3 DOHC - January 2004 - Current
BK1031 3 Sedan SP23- 2.3 DOHC - January 2004 - Current

any changes, leave a post in this thread.

[pr1mo]

BH protege also came in 1.6 danny boy :P

forgive me if im wriong but im sure theres a 1.8 EFI 323 BG sedan

[Nate]

and the twin cam bg was called the SP :p

and probably a good thing to note that the hardtop is a sedan ... kinda ... some people might think there was a convertable model

[pr1mo]

also if we could have the first bit of the identifying vin number displayed next to each of those models it would be cool for identification purposes!

[Rupewrecht]

you give me the VINs, and i'll add them :)

[Nate]

Jmobg10p*********

[Rupewrecht]

and thats for which BG? Astina i assume but which series? as isn there BG1 and Bg2 in the hatch?

[SehnKhan]

There is a 1.8 SOHC BP engine for the BG Sedans. Like the KF/KH lasers. Just not very common to see.

[Rupewrecht]

There is a 1.8 SOHC BP engine for the BG Sedans. Like the KF/KH lasers. Just not very common to see.

in addition to the 1.8 DOHC that mike reckons there is?

[Rupewrecht]

ok, i've updated the BGs and BA s according to the mazda site...

Just need the years/months/codes for the BJs, and BK if anyone knows

[SehnKhan]

in addition to the 1.8 DOHC that mike reckons there is?

Eh? Only 1.8 we got for sedan in BG was a SOHC.

[Rupewrecht]

yeah i noticed - bad mike :P

[pr1mo]

*whacks

[Ian]

So what would a 92 astina SP be?

[twilightprotege]

Bg - Bg10p2

[Ian]

oh :| I didnt see the - may 1994 part

[woofy]

The Protege sports edition was 2002 not 2001 (ours was built in May 2002, I think and the BJIIJ48 proteges/astina SP20's came out in June I think), I remember seeing the first SP20 Astinas early 2002. Also BJIIJ48's were still being made all through 2003, I think they were stopped sometime Nov/Dec 2003. 3's didn't come out here until late Feb 2004.

[CRA23]

i thought the v6 ba were F1's not P1's??

[skippy]

I think am a F1 or F2 = 1st half 96 V6 hradtop

[Cosmo Dude]

We are the Astina and 323 site so I'll ask Mr Peabody to set the wayback machine to '77 to get the FA4 codes.


GLC's rock

[twilightprotege]

sp20 astina came out in march/april 01 - in yellow only. in may 01 it came out in the rest of the colours.

[Rupewrecht]

The Protege sports edition was 2002 not 2001 (ours was built in May 2002, I think and the BJIIJ48 proteges/astina SP20's came out in June I think), I remember seeing the first SP20 Astinas early 2002. Also BJIIJ48's were still being made all through 2003, I think they were stopped sometime Nov/Dec 2003. 3's didn't come out here until late Feb 2004.

made or sold? thats an important difference here

and whats the code for the BJs? a la BA11P1 etc

[twilightprotege]

the SE was definately 01.

[chicaboo]

The first BJ I ever sat in was the SE20 back in 2002, I thought it had the most comfy seats out. Prolly even more comfy than the SP20 seats. Woofy has said the seats are different, so maybe the have some fancy schmancy Jspec technology...?

[twilightprotege]

well waddia know. the SE was 2002 : http://www.redbook.com.au/vehiclesearch/valuations4.asp?make=MAZD&family=323&year=2002 (apr onwards)

and as stated, the sp20 astina started very early 01 : http://www.redbook.com.au/vehiclesearch/valuations4.asp?make=MAZD&family=323&year=2001

[twilightprotege]

rupe, fyi redbook has the specific model numbers.

ie sp20 astina = BJ10S2

[woofy]

Ah and all of you doubted me.....told ya that the SE was 2002...ours was BUILT early May, rego'd late May, the SP20 Protege came out a few months later, I suspect after the SE's sold so fast they decided to make them a permenent thing. Two gripes though, the limited Starry blue on the SE should have stayed limited, and the same for the yellow in the Astina's. I'd be pretty annoyed to be told its limited only to have it come out on everything a month later.

[woofy]

The first BJ I ever sat in was the SE20 back in 2002, I thought it had the most comfy seats out. Prolly even more comfy than the SP20 seats. Woofy has said the seats are different, so maybe the have some fancy schmancy Jspec technology...?
Dunno the silver bits are a different material and the inner bits/door lining bits seem to be a better quality than my friends Sp20,, I'd never realised they were different until she got hers. I think the bolstering is the same, but not sure.

[Rupewrecht]

OK, it'll all updated now i think!

[Zooming Bravo]

at the end of 99 they brought out the run of 40th anniversary models for 121,323 & 626.

The Astina 1.8 (only) anniversary model came in silver or red with the interior exactly the same as the SP20 climate control as well.

We bought one and have been very happy with it but its time to step aside for the arrival of the 23....

[Rupewrecht]

i thought about listing all the special models/shades, but since mazda doesnt list them and redbook doesn't actually say when each special edition etc...but the basic specs don't change

[Rupewrecht]

also, on the topic of the BJs - at my old job i did the mazda australia site.

the subsite for the SP20 was designed in november 2000, and the facelift 323 subsite in jan 2001! Quite a bit of forward planning there.

[shaggy 1800]

hey guys this may have been covered in this tread but i carn't see it any where. Is there such a thing as a BG Astina 1.6 with the SP seats in them from factory? Cheers And were the SP's the only ones to come out with the double exhaust tips?? (i know they are realy Kookl).
Thanks again

[Rupewrecht]

changed the code for the BA protege, as it seems to be referred to as different things under Mazda

[89sp1.8]

hey i know this might be a stupid question,but i was curios to know if theres any preformance/engine differs between the 89 bg sp and the 94 bg sp?same kw n bhp?

[bourbon]

yeah there is BG Astina 1.6 SP...and also there are 1.8 DOHC non SP so the BGs are missin a few there mate...not tryin to be picky or nuffin

[Rupewrecht]

no, there's not. not in australia!

if you can show some proof, i'll happily change it. :)

[Drunknmonkeyau]

hey guys
I'm just wondering what the diffrances between a normal 95 BA and the shades one are? is it just a cahnge in the interior or is there more then that?

Cheers :D

[Rupewrecht]

i think the shades ones got mags and aircon, and possibly a spoiler as well. Cosmo will know :p

[Cosmo Dude]

Shades is Mazdas runout special. They add some bits like Mags, A/C (although it was standard on the Astina), some fancy SHADES decals and sometimes fog lights. It's a better deal on a 121, Protege or base model 626.
Imagine a Astina V6 shades. It wouldn't be any different LOL

[pr1mo]

my shades came with sticker, aircon and hubcaps and no spoiler

[AstinaBoiV6]

Ahh and all this time i thought i had a BA11F1 when i really have a F3 lol, im not noob stop laughin if u r. lol

[AstinaBoiV6]

how long does it take to move up the ranks eg Juniour member, whats next?

[CRA23]

mine is a v6 shades, the only thing i can work out that is differnt is the insurance is like $20 more expencive ??

[Cosmo Dude]

Only real option on the V6 was auto and sunroof. If you aint got either of these then ask your insurance company why the extra. Ask for a writen explanation you can take to the industry ombudsman.

[Drunknmonkeyau]

my shades came with sticker, aircon and hubcaps and no spoiler
That sounds about what mine was like. Had the Shades sticker on the back and thats the only thing dirrfent about the car i could tell lol

mine is a v6 shades, the only thing i can work out that is differnt is the insurance is like $20 more expencive ??
Thats seems kinda odd mate. I'd look into this if i was you :D

[bourbon]

so your sayin my BG 1.8 DOHC is an SP, even though i dont have sunroof, power windows and all that fancy stuff...even though its no badged SP or even any sign of SP


i looked at my plate in my engine bay, it says its a 323K... ive heard people calling them 323F but whats the difference with the K?

[ezin]

Um when i bought my sp20 hatch on 13-feb 2002 with a build date of 12/01 they recieved my car and the special model protege on the same truck and they gave me the choice to change my mind but i hated the interior/headlights and the fact it wasnt a hatch but it was a lot cheaper. anyway theres no way then that the model started in april 02 more like 12/01 since it takes about 2 months to get it here from japan (may be looking at the complience plate and not the build date) Its dam hard to know the actual first cars from a model line up unless u speak to mazda i would say.

[bourbon]

umm i just want to let everyone know... my BG 1.8L DOHC is not a SP...even though its a DOHC its not a SP, only because of the fact that its AUTO and no SP's were auto...i dont have bucket seats or the sunroof...

[woofy]

Um when i bought my sp20 hatch on 13-feb 2002 with a build date of 12/01 they recieved my car and the special model protege on the same truck and they gave me the choice to change my mind but i hated the interior/headlights and the fact it wasnt a hatch but it was a lot cheaper. anyway theres no way then that the model started in april 02 more like 12/01 since it takes about 2 months to get it here from japan (may be looking at the complience plate and not the build date) Its dam hard to know the actual first cars from a model line up unless u speak to mazda i would say.

Production date (build) on our Sports edition is 1/04/02 and it was delivered 31/05/02. There was no mention of them at the 2002 car show in march, so the one you saw may have been the first, every one I have seen so far was received in May or June. They weren't cheaper either, they were exactly the same price as the BJII SP20, it wasn't until the line of SP20 sedans started (BJIIJ48)that they dropped in price and were slightly less than the hatches.

I like the interior better, I never realised it was different, but compared to our friends 2001 SP20 it still looks new, and doesn't have threads to pull.

[ezin]

Just becuase urs has that build date does not mean they started at that date (what kind of logic is that) The limited editions where not numbered so how would u know where they start and where they stop only the vin will tell u that and mazda would have to give u the first and last vin made.
The cost price of the limited was far cheaper but the retail prices where the same, sorry.

[dru]

Can I say, I have a BG SP Series II. Made in 1990.

Yes I know, that would mean it would have to be a Series I. Under the hood even the VIN reads BG10P2 - not to mention it has the series 2 interior and all!

Weird.

[Gersom]

ok wait. i'm confused now. all this hardtop talk is making no sence. maybe a pic of one would help. just so i know what we are talking about


oh' and hi.
new here

[sandman_kar]

check my readers ride. thats a hardtop

[Dj RustA]

I own a 1993 1.8L Mazda Lantis (same shape as '94 BA astina) . Just wondering what the difference is between them????

Cheers,
Russ

[Rupewrecht]

ok wait. i'm confused now. all this hardtop talk is making no sence. maybe a pic of one would help. just so i know what we are talking about

Welcome! Try this thread - http://www.astinagt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4868
and have a look at the brochure for 1994-1998 Astina Hatch & Hardtop

I own a 1993 1.8L Mazda Lantis (same shape as '94 BA astina) . Just wondering what the difference is between them????

Cheers,
Russ


Welcome Russ

Probably not a lot of difference - Lantis was the JDM name, and Astina was the AUSDM name.

[Dj RustA]

Oh okay, cheers for that, another thing i noticed was the 1.8 astina's KW rating is a 92KW and mines 99KW, they're the same engine right?

Cheers :)

[Mr Akimoto]

due to all the newbies asking (not that that's a bad thing...)

Astinas are commonly referred to as BG , or BA or BJ on this site.

It helps to know which model you're asking about as they're all different. Australian releases too.

so:

BG - 1989 - 1994/6
Hatch:
BG10P1 Astina Hatch - 1.8 SOHC - July 1989 - Feb 1991
BG10P1 Astina Hatch SP - 1.8 DOHC - July 1989 - Feb 1991
BG10P2 Astina Hatch - 1.8 SOHC - March 1991 - May 1994
BG10P2 Astina Hatch SP - 1.8 DOHC - March 1991 - May 1994
Sedan:
BG1061 323 Sedan - 1.6 SOHC - July 1989 - Feb 1991
BG10P1 323 Sedan - 1.8 SOHC - July 1989 - Feb 1991
BG1062 323 Sedan - 1.6 SOHC - March 1991 - May 1996
BG10P2 323 Sedan - 1.8 SOHC - March 1991 - May 1996

BA - 1994-1998
Hatch:
BA11P1 Astina Hatch - 1.8 DOHC - May 1994 - Aug 1995
BA11F1 Astina Hatch - 2.0 V6 - May 1994 - Aug 1995
BA11P2 Astina Hatch - 1.8 DOHC - Aug 1995 - Oct 1996
BA11F2 Astina Hatch - 2.0 V6 - Aug 1995 - Oct 1996
BA11P3 Astina Hatch - 1.8 DOHC - Oct 1996 - May 1998
BA11F3 Astina Hatch - 2.0 V6 - Oct 1996 - May 1998
Sedan:
BA11P1 Astina Hardtop - 1.8 DOHC - May 1994 - Aug 1995
BA11F1 Astina Hardtop - 2.0 V6 - May 1994 - Aug 1995
BA11P2 Astina Hardtop - 1.8 DOHC - Aug 1995 - Oct 1996
BA11F2 Astina Hardtop - 2.0 V6 - Aug 1995 - Oct 1996
BA11P3 Astina Hardtop - 1.8 DOHC - Oct 1996 - May 1998
BA11F3 Astina Hardtop - 2.0 V6 - Oct 1996 - May 1998

BHA - 1994-1998
also known as BH, BHA, and BA
BH1161 Protegé - 1.6 DOHC - June 1994 - Aug 1995
BH11P1 Protegé - 1.8 DOHC - June 1994 - Aug 1995
BH1162 Protegé - 1.6 DOHC - Aug 1995 - Oct 1996
BH11P2 Protegé - 1.8 DOHC - Aug 1995 - Oct 1996
BH1163 Protegé - 1.6 DOHC - Oct 1996 - May 1998
BH11P3 Protegé - 1.8 DOHC - Oct 1996 - May 1998

BJ - 1998-2001
BJ10M1 Astina Hatch - 1.6 DOHC - May 1998 - February 2001
BJ10M1 Protegé Sedan - 1.6 DOHC - May 1998 - February 2001
BJ10P1 Astina Hatch - 1.8 DOHC - May 1998 - February 2001
BJ10P1 Protegé Sedan - 1.8 DOHC - May 1998 - February 2001

BJII - 2001-2002
BJ10P2 Astina Hatch - 1.8 DOHC - February 2001 - June 2002
BJ10P2 Protegé Sedan - 1.8 DOHC - February 2001 - June 2002
BJ10S2 Astina Hatch SP20 - 2.0 DOHC - February 2001 - June 2002
BJ10S2 Protegé Sedan Special Edition - 2.0 DOHC - April 2002 - June 2002

BJII-J48 - 2002-2003
BJ10P2 Astina Hatch - 1.8 DOHC - June 2002 - December 2003
BJ10P2 Protegé Sedan - 1.8 DOHC - June 2002 - December 2003
BJ10S2 Astina Hatch SP20 - 2.0 DOHC - June 2002 - December 2003
BJ10S2 Protegé Sedan SP20 - 2.0 DOHC - June 2002 - December 2003

BK - 2004-Current
BK10F1 3 Hatch - 2.0 DOHC - January 2004 - Current
BK10F1 3 Sedan - 2.0 DOHC - January 2004 - Current
BK1031 3 Hatch SP23- 2.3 DOHC - January 2004 - Current
BK1031 3 Sedan SP23- 2.3 DOHC - January 2004 - Current

any changes, leave a post in this thread.

I'm trying to understand the models you guys have, but what's the difference between the protege and the astina BA ???

[Rupewrecht]

This the the BHA Protege (Familia in Japan)

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jc/images/95protege_es.jpg

This is the BA Astina Hatch (Lantis Coupe in Japan, 323F in Europe)

http://www.newcastlevehicleexchange.com/images/2091_2.JPG

And this is the BA Hardtop (Lantis Sedan in Japan)

http://rupewrecht.com/astina/photos/astina_lowered_front.jpg
http://rupewrecht.com/astina/photos/astina_lowered_back.jpg ;)



Pics added to the first post. Alway meant to do it...

[Mr Akimoto]

THANKX.... Like that hardtop very much, but it has never been sold in europe.

My dealer just imported one from japan (together with a cosmo). That's the only one in holland.

Is the protege the only one that also has been sold in the U.S.??

[Rupewrecht]

The US got the Protege/Familia from 95-98, and Canada got that, and the 323 Neo/Lynx. But no Astinas.

http://www.ostamyy.com/autot/kuvat/2607034_185_100.jpg

[Mr Akimoto]

The US got the Protege/Familia from 95-98, and Canada got that, and the 323 Neo/Lynx. But no Astinas.

http://www.ostamyy.com/autot/kuvat/2607034_185_100.jpg

Oke, my girlfriend had one of those. In holland they are called a 323 coupe.

[zero_1984]

Cool great little guide.. saves me having to ask! :D

[timmmah.l]

Just wondering if any of you know how to tell the difference between a MAZDA 323 BG10P2 Astina, and the SP one? Because on carsales some of the SP models have "MAZDA" next to the right light, whilst some have the circle inside the cirlce badge instead. Its the same with the non SP models. Do they differ for each year? Or is there a way to tell them apart?
Any info would be great!

[zappy65]

having a sunroof is one

[bourbon]

no its not zappy...some SOHC came out with sunroofs...the mazda badge on the bar next to the blinker in the bar means series 1...series 2 didnt have that...

BG10P1 = series 1
BG10P2 = series 2

youll have to find out if its DOHC or SOHC, also if it has more sportier looking seats, power windows, sunroof...if it has the full package will most likely be a SP...

[zero_1984]

Ok could someone help me out here.

i know my mazda is a 1991 BG 323 astina (not the sp!).. i think its a SOHC (¿) . i've seen the same car at calder park in melbourne with a 1.8 turbo engine etc..

my question is what size engine does the 91 bg come with, and where the frell do people get these turbo edition engines from, and how much?! :D

[zappy65]

they get the turbo engines from....none other then a GTX familia or a laser turbo usually....and to a lesser extent the GTR familia....basically a small hatchback mazda that is turboed....you can tell wether it is SOHC by where the spark plugs are... by the way 91 BG's came with both 1.6 SOHC and 1.8 DOHC have a look at my readers rides to see a DOHC engine....

[Mc_Nuggets]

and the twin cam bg was called the SP :p

and probably a good thing to note that the hardtop is a sedan ... kinda ... some people might think there was a convertable model

Yep MEEE!!!!

[hks_kansei]

there was a Familia (323) convertible.

http://www.mazdaclub.net/user/board_images/webbaord/15000/15103-152675-thumb.jpg


only in Japan though (however, I have seen a few in Aust, not sure if they are grey import or a Mazda Aust import?)

[Ultraviolent]

I have no idea what you call my redheaded stepchild thats half Korean half japanese hybrid ! But I call it the 97 Kia Sephia RS lol yeah I am from the states and for some reason Kia used a mazda motor but at any rate its a 1.8 BP-ZE

[appie B.]

i ve got a 323f bg 1.6 dohc . i dont see it here .

[so fresh]

mine is a 1.8lt 91 astina hatch is there a standard type thats not a soch n a doch? n on the back it says si (standard imatation.lol)what does that mean? all i can say is,its not a soch n deffinately not a doch:confused:

[project.r.racing]

i ve got a 323f bg 1.6 dohc . i dont see it here .you are in europe, hence why you have a 323f and not a astina.

mine is a 1.8lt 91 astina hatch is there a standard type thats not a soch n a doch?:confused:"sp" model was dohc

[70NYD]

lol if its not a SOHC and not a DOHC than how many cams does it have :p is it a windsor block with pushrods for mid cam :p
sorry i couldnt resist :D

[so fresh]

ok my vin number is jmobg10p200 and if im guessing right (please correct me if im wrong)thats a sohc.right?

[bourbon]

it could be a DOHC or a SOHC...have a look at the engine...if the spark plug leads goto the front of the engine above the exhaust its a SOHC...if they goto the top of the engine and have the cover go either side of them (front & back) its a DOHC...

[so fresh]

yeah the leads are in the front but there are odd lookin ones at the back but they dont look like spark plug leads(so i guess mine ia a sohc)

[70NYD]

ones next to the intake manifold are called injectors :p

[so fresh]

hey i took a pic of it,it in my gallary

so is a sohc fast?is it a good thing?

[bourbon]

youve got a SOHC...

[mussing]

Well it's not particularly fast as it produces a max of 77kw, whereas the dohc produces 92kw. Additionally the sohc has longer gear ratios (f series gearbox) than the dohc (g series gearbox), meaning that it accelerates slower.

The plus side however is that these are fine, even good, for daily driving. The sohc is more fuel efficient than the dohc- expect maybe 8-8.5L per 100 in the city and roughly 6 on the highway, whereas the dohc will use about 1L more than those.

I've driven both a sohc and a dohc, and while I'd take the SP for it's 'fun' and 'sportiness' values (ie. power windows, sunroof, engine, etc) the sohc is still a pretty damn good car, it's cheaper than the SP, and in my opinion better than its rivals of the time- think corolla seca, mitsubishi lancer, n14 pulsar (not SSS), ford laser kh, etc.

[so fresh]

what can i do to make it faster without the engin conversion e.g turbos e.t.c

any ideas?

[70NYD]

you wont get a turbo on thre without different compression pistons and strengthend rods, all manifolds etc so you might as well get a engine conversion lol ;) thats why its so popular

[so fresh]

thanks alot guys for your help

may aswell do 1 (conversion) any tips?

[mussing]

My 2c: if you want power you'd be better off to sell the astina and buy something that comes with a turbo rather than turboing your sohc. You're looking at 5 grand at the very minimum (and that's a conservative estimate), and then add another grand or so if you want a G-series gearbox + driveshafts etc to handle the power without smashing your box to tiny pieces. For that price you could well just sell the astina for maybe 3 grand depending, then take the 5 you would've spent on turboing and use that 8 to buy something like a 180sx or the like.

Or, you could just keep your astina as a good quality daily.

[missqtypie]

i have an astina 1.8 se
what category would that be placed under

[Rupewrecht]

Posts moved here, Alexander93

http://www.astinagt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19195

[Snowmonkey]

I will annoy everyone but ... the 323C / Familia Neo don't appear anywhere ..
In Europe, the 323C is considered as a BA (the code is BA1352).
Moreover, I don't see the 1.5L DOHC engine which I have on my car, same thing for the 1.3L SOHC.