Looking at buying a BHA, what should I be looking for?

[marcs_sp20]

hey guys,

Tashs parents have decided to pay out the existing loan for her lancer, so that she can sell it and get a more sensible car to drive & insure, and first thing that came to mind was a mazda! :p

We did a little driving last night, and tash has come to the conclusion she likes both the BA Astina hatch & BHA protege.

I did a little hunting round on carsales & there are a few nice stock BA's with pretty high k's, but what stood out was a 1994 323 protege with 144,000ks for like $4900.

Now this protege has the B6 1.6L with 5speed, blue in colour & ugly 3 spoke 14" alloys.

So im aware for when the time is right in say a month to purchase another car, what would be the main things to look out on these?

of course, within the week of buying it, it'll have a set of rims, lowered, zorst & stereo :p

Cheers
Marc

[bourbon]

id have the perfect rims sittin here for it too :p ;)

[marcs_sp20]

The 18's? :D:D

[bourbon]

yep ;)

[marcs_sp20]

Noice!

Anyways, here's the Link (http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/MAZDA/323/details.aspx?__Ntk=CarRego&__D=457csx&Cr=0&State=All%20States&R=6150739&state_id=0&__N=0%201216%20834%20285%20257&distance=25&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_I mageCount_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_LastModifiedDate_Dat eTime%7c1&__Ntt=457csx&trecs=1&__Nne=20&__Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&silo=1003&__sid=11C755FBAD09&rego=457csx&seot=0&__Dx=mode%20matchany) for the car on carsales...

Cheers
Marc

[bourbon]

yeah i prefer the mazda version of this over the ford version...ford one is yucky!!!!

[Rupewrecht]

BHA Mechanicals + suspension are pretty similar to BA, so just the usual oil leaks and stuff like that.

BHAs are very cheap for what they are.

[marcs_sp20]

yeah i prefer the mazda version of this over the ford version...ford one is yucky!!!!

Pfft as if i'd own a ford :p

BHA Mechanicals + suspension are pretty similar to BA, so just the usual oil leaks and stuff like that.

BHAs are very cheap for what they are.

Could you elaborate on that pleasems? I just want to be ready for when the time comes thats all :rolleyes:

[bourbon]

engine leaks, gearbox leaks... all the usual...just go over all the bolts on the outside of the engine & gearbox and you shouldnt have make issues after that...apart from if the seals are gone...

[Rupewrecht]

Cam cover + dizzy seal leaks. Clicking CVs. HLA rattle on startup. Color of the cams when viewed thru the oil cap hole (brown is fine, black is signs of neglected oil changes). Worn drivers seat side bolster (tho less of an issue with the flatter BHA seats).

And buying a Mazda means buying a Ford :p Moreso a post-96 one!

I imagine you'd find a BP DOHC one for much the same price as a 1.6, too.

[DavoAust]

looking at the 2 pics the rear tail light doesn't look like it lines up right. same as mine didn't when i got rear ended.

[bourbon]

looking at the 2 pics the rear tail light doesn't look like it lines up right. same as mine didn't when i got rear ended.

what ya mean? looks fine to me...i cant see anythin wrong with it...

[marcs_sp20]

Same...

[project.r.racing]

the bha in the link has power everything. most bha, especially the b6 models do not. so it's a better version bha than others.

[gtarone]

of course, within the week of buying it, it'll have a set of rims, lowered, zorst & stereo :p

Lol, sensible car ha? Straight into the mods! You are a fake ninja! ;)

[bourbon]

body kits and custom paint jobs like that is on the lancer kills you with insurance...wheels, zorts and stereo and lowering dont effect the insurance much...

[marcs_sp20]

body kits and custom paint jobs like that is on the lancer kills you with insurance...wheels, zorts and stereo and lowering dont effect the insurance much...

My point exactly, but in this case, its the airbrushing that puts the insurance premiums high, something we cant afford...

A little car with just subtle mods keeps insurance companys at bay...

And steve those are the requirements of tash, I had nothing to do with it!

[gtarone]

My point exactly, but in this case, its the airbrushing that puts the insurance premiums high, something we cant afford...

A little car with just subtle mods keeps insurance companys at bay...

And steve those are the requirements of tash, I had nothing to do with it!

Lol, yeh i know wat a gf is like... :D but i love her all the same (incase she is reading)

So not possible to say... tell the insurance company NOT to include the paint? I understand that they get all sh!ty and don't pay out if u DON'T mention something, but if they know NOT to include it, what then?

PS: CAPITAL LETTERS FTW

[marcs_sp20]

Lol, yeh i know wat a gf is like... :D but i love her all the same (incase she is reading)

So not possible to say... tell the insurance company NOT to include the paint? I understand that they get all sh!ty and don't pay out if u DON'T mention something, but if they know NOT to include it, what then?

PS: CAPITAL LETTERS FTW

We've tried every possible way to get it not included, and the only answer we get back is that as its part of the paint, they wont insure it, and if they do, its about $3000/year for a car worth only $10k, not worth it IMO.

Capital letters = yelling :p

[gtarone]

We've tried every possible way to get it not included, and the only answer we get back is that as its part of the paint, they wont insure it, and if they do, its about $3000/year for a car worth only $10k, not worth it IMO.

Capital letters = yelling :p

ID TOTALLY PAINT OVER IT. THAT FIXES EVERYTHING.

CHEERS, STEVE

[marcs_sp20]

Change of plans in cars it seems, Tashs parents would rather tash get a car around the same year model or a little younger than her current Lancer now (which is an 01 model), so with saying that I went for a bit of a drive on tuesday night and spotted a nice little Mazda 2 for $10,990!

http://farm4.dealernet.com.au/stock/20080506/1C5DF724CF654BA2B21C01614312406A.jpg

http://farm4.dealernet.com.au/stock/20080506/D905FF8AE1F04904B9BBF228E54E4EA1.jpg

http://farm4.dealernet.com.au/stock/20080506/55EF59F9688B418C8D70913B5840DFDA.jpg
Its a 2004 model maz 2 neo (thanks for the info gav on what model ;)), 66k's on the clock, dark grey interior and 17" rims...

Hopefully we'll go down to the stealership with tashs dad on saturday arvo to see if they'd do a straight swap for the lancer, seeing they also have a 00" model lancer coupe for $11K :eek:

Marc

[bourbon]

ewww ugly wheels :p i think it needs some 18inch gold ones :p

[marcs_sp20]

I know I know, even the ones that the lancer has would be better then those!

[70NYD]

whats wrong with those wheels? i like them, apart from the fact that they are chrome (FKN DISQUISTING) they are pretty kewl :)

[project.r.racing]

get the 2 that has the black tail-lights to match the front black headlights.

[chicaboo]

get the 2 that has the black tail-lights to match the front black headlights.I don't think they exist, they changed to the black taillights on the DY10Y2 model Genki, but they also changed to the chrome headlights across the whole range at the same time... :(

Gav.

[DavoAust]

i've seen one, maybe it was a special model?

you know what this means? an epic touge battle - tash vs gav :p

[Cosmo Dude]

Join the dark side.

Looks to have power pack (fast glass, mud flaps, side mouldings, coloured mirrors, and 6 disk rock box) don't know about safety pack (ABS, EBD, side n' curtain bags).
$10,990 sounds a bit high for an '04 Neo. Check the price on redbook.com.au

[chicaboo]

I find that the ABS comes on waaay to early in my Genki, so sometimes I feel the EBD pulse the brakes during long fast corners. The one time I didn't need the EBD in an extreme cornering manouvre, it thankfully didn't engage (or I exceded it's limits?)! Let's say that this particular corner sharpened abruptly at it's apex, and I had to t/o o/s to push the nose around more aggresively. To my delightful surprise, the Genki did just that. So it's handling is quite surprising, despite some minor body roll. ;)

Gav.

[DavoAust]

So it's handling is quite surprising, despite some minor body roll. ;)

still got your side mirror? :p

that thing has crazy amounts of body roll, i don't know how it doesnt just fall over or slide off the road

[chicaboo]

It's OK Dave, at the flick of a button I can retract the side mirrors so they don't get scratched. :p

Gav.

[marcs_sp20]

get the 2 that has the black tail-lights to match the front black headlights.

Yeah that would look the goods aye?



you know what this means? an epic touge battle - tash vs gav :p

LMAO, highly doubt that, if that does happen it can be who can tip over first :p

Join the dark side.

Looks to have power pack (fast glass, mud flaps, side mouldings, coloured mirrors, and 6 disk rock box) don't know about safety pack (ABS, EBD, side n' curtain bags).
$10,990 sounds a bit high for an '04 Neo. Check the price on redbook.com.au

Checked redbook, price range is $9,600-$11,400, so in the range at least. Hopefully will do and have a little chat 2moro as I think that the price could be brought down, I mean there is a couple marks and stuff on the rear bar & scrub out marks on the rims, so will see how we go...

[project.r.racing]

breadvan battle?

[marcs_sp20]

Bit of an update...

That one I posted above is really $13,930, and in my opinion, not worth it.

However, we have found another 2, but this one being a 2003 model Genki :D

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm43/marcs_sp20/12368391.jpg

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm43/marcs_sp20/12368393.jpg

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm43/marcs_sp20/12368398.jpg

85,000kms, 15" rims, bodykit, fogs, all for $12,990. We're going down to see the car (which is 2kms down the road :p) with Tashs parents to haggle what they would do for a trade-in for the Lancer. Its really gotten to the point where im now too afraid the car, we just want it gone...

[marcs_sp20]

As some are prolly aware, Lancer sold yesterday for $9000, so we're basically going to need a new car soon!

I have been spending the good bit of 4hrs scouring car websites, and I think I have sound some goodies, just need some opinions:

1997 BA Astina
Link here (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=7019345&postcode=4305&__Qpb=true&__Nf=p_GeoLocation_String%7cGCLT%20-27.70146%2c152.7548%2039.0&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Price_Decim al%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cpCar_Model_S tring%7c0&__N=1216%201282%204294965340%204294964064%20408&distance=25&silo=1011&PriceTo=408&seot=0&Cr=13&__Nne=15&trecs=20&__sid=120DD49E918D)
http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/private/carsales/5275346.jpg

01 BJ1 Astina
Link here (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=7049089&postcode=4305&__Qpb=true&__Nf=p_GeoLocation_String%7cGCLT%20-27.70146%2c152.7548%20114.0&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Price_Decim al%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cpCar_Model_S tring%7c0&__N=1216%201282%204294965340%204294964064%20408&distance=100&silo=1011&PriceTo=408&seot=0&__Nne=15&Cr=12&__No=30&trecs=56&__sid=120DD49E918D)
http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/private/carsales/5317517.jpg

00 KQ Ford Laser
Link Here (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=5707921&postcode=4305&YearFromShort=1642&__Qpb=true&__Nf=p_GeoLocation_String%7cGCLT%20-27.70146%2c152.7548%2064.0&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Price_Decim al%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cpCar_Model_S tring%7c0&SearchAction=N&__N=1216%201282%204294966463%204294966439%20408%20 1642%201622&distance=50&silo=1011&PriceTo=408&seot=0&Cr=7&__Nne=15&trecs=10&__sid=120DD49E918D)
http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/private/carsales/3654953.jpg

Thats all I can find at the moment (kind of buggered just writing this...), but the prerequisites are that it has to be Manual, nothing over 12yrs old, under 200k's & hopefully under $8k. If you find anything that's also within distance of postcode 4305, post it up!!

Cheers
Marc

[mussing]

Will you intend to modify it at some stage? Or just keep it stock for daily driving?

[Mad Mat]

y don't u buy a v6 ba and put ur sp20 sorry sport 20 wheels on her :D

[marcs_sp20]

it'll be modded within reason ;)

Also found this on Ebay... An SE20 in Toowoomba for $8k!! (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/MAZDA-323-BJ-II-PROTEGE-2002-BJII_W0QQitemZ280341257957QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Ca rs?hash=item280341257957&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A7%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C 301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50)
http://i.ebayimg.com/20/!BQ)N8vQBWk~$(KGrHgoOKjsEjlLmUU31BJ6scEd)Dg~~_1.JP G

Needs a little TLC, but would mind havin a look at this...

[Mad Mat]

omg it has those lights. wonder if they r a DIY

[marcs_sp20]

y don't u buy a v6 ba and put ur sp20 wheels on her :D

Gotta strictly be a 4cyl car, I dont need bigger insurance premiums :p

[marcs_sp20]

omg it has those lights. wonder if they r a DIY

Its an SE20, meaning that they are the real deal....

[Mad Mat]

se20????? wtf whats the difference. i have never herd of a se 20 before mate

[mussing]

Looks like a great find especially with so few ks for so cheap. Can the clearcoat be fixed without spending too much?

[marcs_sp20]

se20????? wtf whats the difference. i have never herd of a se 20 before mate

SE20 (Sports Edition) was sold next to the Astina SP20 but only as a protege. only 250 were made (all in starry blue), and they shared basically everything except for the grey cloth inserts in the seats & door cards, and the blacked out headlights.

Looks like a great find especially with so few ks for so cheap. Can the clearcoat be fixed without spending too much?

Could be, but prolly better off just getting the whole thing resprayed..

[project.r.racing]

but the prerequisites are that it has to be Manual, nothing over 12yrs old, under 200k's & hopefully under $8k. If you find anything that's also within distance of postcode 4305, post it up!!Um my car? $4.5K in current form. $8.0K with fully rebuilt engine. Just got new tyres. :D And braided brake lines next Monday. :D

[marcs_sp20]

um no :p

[marcs_sp20]

01 BJ1 Astina
Link here (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=7049089&postcode=4305&__Qpb=true&__Nf=p_GeoLocation_String%7cGCLT%20-27.70146%2c152.7548%20114.0&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Price_Decim al%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cpCar_Model_S tring%7c0&__N=1216%201282%204294965340%204294964064%20408&distance=100&silo=1011&PriceTo=408&seot=0&__Nne=15&Cr=12&__No=30&trecs=56&__sid=120DD49E918D)
http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/private/carsales/5317517.jpg

00 KQ Ford Laser
Link Here (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=5707921&postcode=4305&YearFromShort=1642&__Qpb=true&__Nf=p_GeoLocation_String%7cGCLT%20-27.70146%2c152.7548%2064.0&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Price_Decim al%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cpCar_Model_S tring%7c0&SearchAction=N&__N=1216%201282%204294966463%204294966439%20408%20 1642%201622&distance=50&silo=1011&PriceTo=408&seot=0&Cr=7&__Nne=15&trecs=10&__sid=120DD49E918D)
http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/private/carsales/3654953.jpg



Its down to these two now, so hopefully will have a looksie on the weekend... reckon I could get a couple hundred off them??

Cheers
Marc

[Mad Mat]

Go The Bj

[mussing]

Mmm it does look to be lowered already, could save some pennies... Although the laser is probs more fuel efficient and has less kms on it...

[marcs_sp20]

Although the laser is probs more fuel efficient and has less kms on it...

More fuel efficient? How so? They both have the some motors (FP i would assume - 1.8L) in them!

Only downfall is that if I wanted to lower the laser, I cant jump on the eibach sale as they seem to have run out :( so it would be dreaded kings...

[mussing]

Whoops, I just assumed it had a 1.6 like KQ's one. Does the BJ have power windows? Doesn't mention it on the carsales page whereas the laser does. But given it's the same engine I'd probs now go with the BJ.

[marcs_sp20]

I emailed them both last night, just waiting on a reply...

[marcs_sp20]

Well its basically go time now, car is sold, so another is needed...

I received a call from the bloke that owns the green laser, long story short, he has a company car. his wife doesnt drive a manual so its basically just sitting there... Its been on the market for nearly a year, and has done around 2000kms in the last year. All the logbooks are up to date, which included the timing belt changed at 100,000kms...

What do you guys reckon?? Going to see it on saturday morning, so will be taking pics etc...

[Rupewrecht]

I'd be wary of a timing belt that has only done that sort of KMs in a year - mine stretched and slipped just before Dorrigo 2007 because of that. Not saying that it will, but it's something to keep in mind...

[marcs_sp20]

Went and had a look at the laser this morning, very nice, a couple scratches here and there, only thing I could really pick on was that the clutch needs to be adjusted as you really have to put your foot into it to engage... but other then that, very nice.

If we were to get it, mods would be:

lowering
tint
clear indicators
stereo

Having a look at the mazda at 4pm, so will update as soon as we get home...

cheers
marc

[marcs_sp20]

the other 323 was a joke, it was basically a standard BJ1 with rims, plus only had a 1.6L!!!

So we had some thought overnight, and went and picked up the laser this morning :D:D

$7k we got it for, runs like a dream! I have also made a readers rides which can be seen Here... (http://www.astinagt.com/forums/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=585)

Cheers
Marc

[Rupewrecht]

Congrats Marc...well, moreso Tash ;)

[Mad Mat]

hey mate congrates on the car. she looks abute.
but just remember what ford mean too. lol :p

[marcs_sp20]

Congrats Marc...well, moreso Tash ;)

haha cheers :D

hey mate congrates on the car. she looks abute.
but just remember what ford mean too. lol :p

yeah I do, "Found Out Racing Dip****s" (ie you :p) bahaha!!

Let the modding begin ;)

[Mad Mat]

lol hahahahaha haven't heard that one before lol. i was thinking of the one

" F45ked on race day" :D

but congrate nun the less mate :)

[70NYD]

congratulations man :) make sure you dont have to Fix Or Repair Daily ;)

[marcs_sp20]

lol, this car will be driven like lil miss daisy, unless I step into the drivers side :D

All I can say is woah, its got some balls! :D:D

[marcs_sp20]

Trying to figure out who to go with on insurance now... this what I have come up with..

Suncorp - $185/month (and thats not a joke :eek:
Just Cars - $624/year
RACQ - Between $72 & $108/mth depending on who I put down as a driver
Budget car direct - $678/year

im confused a fark now! :(

[70NYD]

just cars... if your planing to mod it later on anyway

[Mad Mat]

try CGU mate. thats who i'm thru