PDA

View Full Version : Any R/C drifters on here?


Pages : [1] 2 3

marcs_sp20
15-06-2009, 06:16 PM
Hey guys,

Just seeing if any other 1/10th drifters on here?

Mad Mat kinda got me hooked when he had has RX7 drifter out fanging it around after the dyno day, gave me a go and absolutley loved it, and my fiance saw that I was loving it, so went out and bought me one on ebay as a present for putting up with her for 3 years :p (please dont hurt me tash, I still love ya :p:D)

Its a Tamiya TT-01 S15 drift machine, picked it all up for $250 posted :D:D

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm43/marcs_sp20/drifts15.jpg

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm43/marcs_sp20/drifts15a.jpg

I know Gtarone is going to be picking one up after his holiday in a month, but who else drifts??

Cheers
Marc

Cosmo Dude
15-06-2009, 06:44 PM
I like them wheels. They'd look good on my AWD Audi :)

chicaboo
15-06-2009, 07:04 PM
I will have to put my TL01 drift car back together so we can do some phat comps.

Gav.

sik astina
15-06-2009, 07:10 PM
I have a HPI sprint 2, Need to get some more drift tyres, also have a few covers..

Make sure you lock ur rear diff, it will drift a lot better

here is my rx7 with led lights
http://www.unleash.au.com/rc-rx8/mazda%20rx7/07-03-07_1903%20(Small).jpg
http://www.unleash.au.com/rc-rx8/mazda%20rx7/100_0320.JPG
http://www.unleash.au.com/rc-rx8/mazda%20rx7/100_0328.JPG

Mad Mat
15-06-2009, 07:18 PM
I have a HPI sprint 2, Need to get some more drift tyres, also have a few covers..

Make sure you lock ur rear diff, it will drift a lot better

here is my rx7 with led lights
http://www.unleash.au.com/rc-rx8/mazda%20rx7/07-03-07_1903%20(Small).jpg
http://www.unleash.au.com/rc-rx8/mazda%20rx7/100_0320.JPG
http://www.unleash.au.com/rc-rx8/mazda%20rx7/100_0328.JPG

holy crap that sic as. :D

ya lol marc i though i would be seenin one of these threads up soon lol

ya i have a tt-01d with a losi brushless 8.5 turn motor and a esc. :) she goes alright. i'll but some pictures up soon :)

sik astina
15-06-2009, 07:22 PM
thanks,

With a brushless 8.5 turn, she should fly!

4ORGD
15-06-2009, 07:26 PM
where do u get these from??

Mad Mat
15-06-2009, 07:27 PM
u have no idea. lol i took it to the dyno day in qld.... hmmm i go thru tires in about 2 battury life's :P

sik astina
15-06-2009, 07:33 PM
LOL i bet you do man! My mate has ur set up in his and thats outta control.. Crazy set up.

4ORGD, you can get these from RC hobby shops or like everything else on Ebay

Mad Mat
15-06-2009, 07:45 PM
i have a TT-01D tamiya drift car.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3365/57766.th.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=57766.jpg)

it is the same as marc's but it has the rx7 case with led pods and neons :D
After about 3 months of running the standard gear i though it was a time to change my motor and esc.
from:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4909/nismocoppermixc.th.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nismocoppermixc.jpg)

so i installed my 8.5 turn brushless losi motor and losi9500 esc.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1417/xcelorin1.th.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xcelorin1.jpg)

OMG the difference in power and control is incredable.

i have currently in my study/rc work shop lol a ball bearin lsd, aluminim drive shaft (as the plastic one get's a himonic frequance in it once i reach about 30.000 rpm) and a new rx7 case. :D but i'm lookin 4 a 323 case. if someone knows where i can get one. let us know :)

70NYD
15-06-2009, 07:47 PM
hmmm i wonder if you can get a 323 shell for these :p

chicaboo
15-06-2009, 07:55 PM
This was my drift shell for many years before I started using it. It's a little battered up now. :D
It's just 3 colours of paint with thin red pin stripes and decals everywhere.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6226/rcdjr2.th.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/rcdjr2.jpg/)

Mad Mat
15-06-2009, 07:56 PM
yo gav the picture does work buddy :(

i just found this lol go the mazda 6.

http://www.rccarsandtrucks.co.uk/507_1_2630186.html

chicaboo
15-06-2009, 07:57 PM
Yeah, I dunno what happened, it made it work with a thumbnail.

Gav.

marcs_sp20
15-06-2009, 08:00 PM
I can see it??

Even if we can find a wago looking body, im sure we could mock it up to look like an Astina Mat :D

Mad Mat
15-06-2009, 08:09 PM
I can see it??

Even if we can find a wago looking body, im sure we could mock it up to look like an Astina Mat :D

i found some mazda 6 shells. but yer i will get my rc guy on to it. he has a massive book full of shells lol :D

http://cgi.ebay.com/HotWorks-Mazda-RX7-GT-RC-R-C-Drift-Body-Shell-1-10-1-10_W0QQitemZ230318785523QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio_C ontrol_Parts_Accessories?hash=item35a011c3f3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
ow we should get some of these lol man it look hot

scott b
15-06-2009, 09:05 PM
yeh ive got a TT-01 as well,

marcs_sp20
15-06-2009, 09:57 PM
should post a photo up scott ;)

scott b
15-06-2009, 10:17 PM
its in the garage atm, and i cant be bothered going out there, ill take some photos on wednesday while im off work, its a fairly simple setup though, just a new speed control and a simple tamiya sports tuned motor, enough to make it slide nicely :) on the nice set of tamiya drift wheels. funny u should hav mentioned this though, i actually only got it running again on saturday :) it spent about 9 months sitting on my shelf and it took my less than 2 minutes to fix,

scott b
15-06-2009, 10:54 PM
ok so i felt really lazy so i decided id go get it, its not got my normal motor in it atm, its got a crappy 15 turn motor in it atm, which is faster than my normal sport tuned motor but i really dont like it, my rear diff has died bcoz of it, i notice on saturday it kept spinning out on right hand turns, i then discovered the rear right wheel is slipping something feirce. going to go get that fixed soon, thats my setup.....

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z185/scottyb1990/IMG_3258.jpg

and my tattered R34 shell i use for drifting, thats just what came with the car, ive also got a lamborghini shell (:confused: cant remember if its gallardo or muciellago),

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z185/scottyb1990/IMG_3259.jpg

the black wheels are just my tyres for in the street, these gold ones have my drift tyres on them and i have a white set that has a better race slick set, that i only use when racing, which i havnt done in a long time.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z185/scottyb1990/IMG_3262.jpg

but yeh ive had it for about 4 years now, and thats the original shell. its not the fastest one ever but more than enough to have a good time with.

oh and sorry bout the large images,

Madd_Maxx
15-06-2009, 11:09 PM
I work at the hobby shop that sells all the gear guys

I havent got a drifter. More of a racer myself but i got a set of drift rims and a BMW M5 shell i painted up but have never got around to actually using haha

Give me a buzz and i can order up and post out basically anything you guys need

marcs_sp20
15-06-2009, 11:13 PM
I work at the hobby shop that sells all the gear guys

I havent got a drifter. More of a racer myself but i got a set of drift rims and a BMW M5 shell i painted up but have never got around to actually using haha

Give me a buzz and i can order up and post out basically anything you guys need

Mat is going to go nuts over this! :p

Which shop mate? I regularly head to toowoomba, be good to come check it all out, can you give discounts to AGT members? :p

scott b
15-06-2009, 11:15 PM
I work at the hobby shop that sells all the gear guys

I havent got a drifter. More of a racer myself but i got a set of drift rims and a BMW M5 shell i painted up but have never got around to actually using haha

Give me a buzz and i can order up and post out basically anything you guys need

:eek: well theres a good chance ill be ordering some gears from the rear diff of a TT-01 in the next week or so, ill pull it apart on wednesday and work out wats stripped, but ill let you know as soon as i do,

Mad Mat
15-06-2009, 11:22 PM
I work at the hobby shop that sells all the gear guys

I havent got a drifter. More of a racer myself but i got a set of drift rims and a BMW M5 shell i painted up but have never got around to actually using haha

Give me a buzz and i can order up and post out basically anything you guys need

nice as mate. :) where is this place lol i'm goin to be in t barr this saturday. might drop in and have a look.

Mat is going to go nuts over this! :p


lol its to late that happened years ago. :P

Mad Mat
15-06-2009, 11:28 PM
ok so i felt really lazy so i decided id go get it, its not got my normal motor in it atm, its got a crappy 15 turn motor in it atm, which is faster than my normal sport tuned motor but i really dont like it, my rear diff has died bcoz of it, i notice on saturday it kept spinning out on right hand turns, i then discovered the rear right wheel is slipping something feirce. going to go get that fixed soon, thats my setup.....

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z185/scottyb1990/IMG_3258.jpg

and my tattered R34 shell i use for drifting, thats just what came with the car, ive also got a lamborghini shell (:confused: cant remember if its gallardo or muciellago),

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z185/scottyb1990/IMG_3259.jpg

the black wheels are just my tyres for in the street, these gold ones have my drift tyres on them and i have a white set that has a better race slick set, that i only use when racing, which i havnt done in a long time.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z185/scottyb1990/IMG_3262.jpg

but yeh ive had it for about 4 years now, and thats the original shell. its not the fastest one ever but more than enough to have a good time with.

oh and sorry bout the large images,

man is that the olny battury u got?? it looks like a1800 maph nmhi battery. i love all the aluminim parts. thats what i would like to get soon. :)

scott b
15-06-2009, 11:32 PM
yeh the aluminium bits r pretty nice, the aluminium drive shaft from front to rear is a MUST in my opinion, ud be suprised just how much the standard plastic one flexes. that battery in it is a 3000mAH NiHm, ive also got a 3800mAh

Mad Mat
15-06-2009, 11:35 PM
nice. :) i have some lovely lipo battery's i'm never goin back to nihm batterys hey. i'm a changed man. :D

scott b
15-06-2009, 11:36 PM
yeh, ive gotta get me a few of those,

Mad Mat
15-06-2009, 11:45 PM
:D i will never look back. but remember to get a lipo saver too. :)

4ORGD
16-06-2009, 01:24 PM
these r Sik

RHINO145
16-06-2009, 01:28 PM
i have one the same as mad mats

Madd_Maxx
16-06-2009, 07:53 PM
Wings over the downs in russel street

Tamiya stuff is sometimes hard 2 get which sucks.

chrisw
16-06-2009, 09:53 PM
oh jeeze, thank god i didnt start this topic.

im more of an offroader with a fair few brushless kits done and destroyed.
had my fair go at nitro too, but just got fed up with the hassles and maintainance, or replacing pull starters / wiring on electric starts.

my only 2 drifters were some HBL's on pvc tyres, the ghetto RC drifters way (HBL sedans are basically a chinese clone of a TL-01)

chicaboo
16-06-2009, 10:03 PM
HBL? Do you mean Haiboxing? That's what my monster truck is, a Bonzer Cross Tiger on a poor quality copy of a TL-01B chassis. The chassis on those are total crap, best to replace them with genuine Tamiya parts as they break. :p What I do is buy hop-ups for my genuine Tamiya TL-01 drift car, and fob the standard higher quality parts onto my monster truck. :D

Gav.

Mad Mat
16-06-2009, 10:29 PM
hey guys. i'm getting a GB sorted 4 some TT-01 and TT-01D ball bearing LSD's is anyone interest :) should be about 30 bucks but the more people the less it is and so on. so far:

1. mat
2. ben
3. marc
4.
5.

scott b
16-06-2009, 10:38 PM
1. mat
2. ben
3. marc
4.
5.

Edit: i cut myself out as i dont want to get it anymore, thanks

DavoAust
16-06-2009, 11:15 PM
what these cost to buy & upgrade? also, you actually wear out tyres? i've always thought they look fun. shame the dog squad come the other night before i got to see you're in action mat

marcs_sp20
16-06-2009, 11:40 PM
Mine cost $250 dave, Mat's RX7 is around $350 at Hobbyone.

Im addicted :D

Cosmo Dude
20-06-2009, 02:29 PM
Not a drift R/C it's AWD and grips like no tomorrow.
Tamyia TA03F chassis
DrSpeed high RPM motor
Braking high porwe speed controller
Ball bearing everything
Alloy adjustable height oil filled dampers
Front and rear swaybar
HPI TE37 copies 3mm offset front 6mm offset rear
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8140/ta03f1.jpg
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3786/ta03f2.jpg

marcs_sp20
20-06-2009, 02:41 PM
Not a drift R/C it's AWD and grips like no tomorrow.
Tamyia TA03F chassis
DrSpeed high RPM motor
Braking high porwe speed controller
Ball bearing everything
Alloy adjustable height oil filled dampers
Front and rear swaybar
HPI TE37 copies 3mm offset front 6mm offset rear
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8140/ta03f1.jpg[/IMG]
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3786/ta03f2.jpg[/IMG]

That thing looks cool :D Where abouts would I be able to pick up some TE37 copies from??

marcs_sp20
20-06-2009, 02:48 PM
I havent even received mine yet im buying parts :p

Rims: $10.50 incl postage
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm43/marcs_sp20/ViewImage.jpg

Porsche GT3 shell with flames :D:D
http://i.ebayimg.com/01/!BUQGoJgB2k~$(KGrHgoOKioEjlLme88sBKMj6z5sng~~_1.JP G

Cosmo Dude
20-06-2009, 04:18 PM
That thing looks cool :D Where abouts would I be able to pick up some TE37 copies from??

www.metrohobby.com.au
I saw them and thought Cool, they look like TE37s. On the way home I realised they are TE37s.
While I was there I had a chat and discovored that in two months Tamyia are re-releasing their first chassis. Below is a pic of the optional bodys from 1979. I swear I havn't touched either in over ten years. :D
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/303/img0435nlj.jpg

Moons
20-06-2009, 06:32 PM
i have a Tam electric that i drift and also a HPI nitro drift car. nitro's go much faster but the electics r much easier to drift and a little cheaper.

chrisw
21-06-2009, 08:25 AM
heh and for whoever said their car wasent drift as it was AWD :P as far as im concerned, nobody should try to drift with a RWD R/C car, all RC drifting is really just AWD, makes the control and power delivery so much easier.

heh, my friend got into it, and is a nitro nut, he wondered why i laughed at him using a nitro until he maggoted his engine bearings after 2 months.

pity I have no spare cash for this anymore :P

Cosmo Dude
21-06-2009, 05:00 PM
The reason I said that my AWD RC wasn't drift is because I've had RWD high power cars and could drift 'em with ease. Also the weight/power distribution in this one is is wrong for drifting.

Mad Mat
21-06-2009, 10:56 PM
I havent even received mine yet im buying parts :p

Rims: $10.50 incl postage
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm43/marcs_sp20/ViewImage.jpg

Porsche GT3 shell with flames :D:D
http://i.ebayimg.com/01/!BUQGoJgB2k~$(KGrHgoOKioEjlLme88sBKMj6z5sng~~_1.JP G

lol i leave brisbane 4 one weekend and u go out and buy these rims lol and a shell omg :p lol p.s. u bought rubber 4 those tires??? lol don't 4 get to super glue them :)

na man they look sweet as. and cosmo dude i love those shells. is that a vw beatle??? man that would be sic :D

scott b
21-06-2009, 11:11 PM
i bought 2 sets of wheels/tyres, both for $10 each :) one black set the same as my other ones, so i can make them my drift rims and another white set with slicks to thrash around :) i also bought an alloy damper set with three spring strengths :P and an alloy GT wing with adjustable downforce :O i couldnt resist :P now im trying to find a new shell to get,

Madd_Maxx
22-06-2009, 01:25 PM
I got a few mazda 6 shells up here??

I can get rx7's but nobody make 323's ):

zappy65
22-06-2009, 03:52 PM
I got mine, aint an Electric though..Nitro FTW!!!....I want an electric though...lol

Ill upload pics asap...

bourbon
22-06-2009, 03:53 PM
I got a few mazda 6 shells up here??

I can get rx7's but nobody make 323's ):

how much can you do the complete kit for one of these for :p best agt price...

marcs_sp20
22-06-2009, 04:50 PM
www.metrohobby.com.au
I saw them and thought Cool, they look like TE37s. On the way home I realised they are TE37s.
While I was there I had a chat and discovored that in two months Tamyia are re-releasing their first chassis. Below is a pic of the optional bodys from 1979. I swear I havn't touched either in over ten years. :D
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/303/img0435nlj.jpg


Sweet, thanks rod, will have to check them out :D

And are those bodies metal?? they look sweet!

lol i leave brisbane 4 one weekend and u go out and buy these rims lol and a shell omg :p lol p.s. u bought rubber 4 those tires??? lol don't 4 get to super glue them :)

na man they look sweet as. and cosmo dude i love those shells. is that a vw beatle??? man that would be sic :D

LOL, impulse buys :p No tyres for the rims, will prolly get some or just use what I have in the lot I receive with the R/C.. (hopefully thursday :D:D)

I got a few mazda 6 shells up here??

I can get rx7's but nobody make 323's ):

How much for the shells bud? I wouldnt mind getting an RX7 shell, or even a RX8 if you have any?? You guys open on saturdays, cause i'l be in woomba for the weekend..

how much can you do the complete kit for one of these for :p best agt price...

Cheap skate :p

Cosmo Dude
22-06-2009, 05:38 PM
They are plastic, the same kind as model kits are made from.

marcs_sp20
22-06-2009, 05:46 PM
ah ok cool, just looks like a bare metal finish on the beetle thats all...

Cosmo Dude
22-06-2009, 07:51 PM
Nah, flat black, hand painted silver trim and some paint damage on the roof due to a high centre of gravity ;)

scott b
22-06-2009, 09:40 PM
im currently designing a proto-type circuit for the flashing lights :P mine didnt come with it like the drift spec ones do. so if anyone else doesnt hav the module and would like one, let me know and ill try figure out how much its cost me to make :) would be as cheap as possible, just cost of parts. or u can go buy the tamiya one. im just bored and know i can make the same thing for a fraction of the $$$.

Madd_Maxx
22-06-2009, 10:37 PM
how much can you do the complete kit for one of these for :p best agt price...

Hmmmm, i gotsa HPI E10, which arent a bad little car, i think it has $280 on it, but i could talk to the boss and try knock a bit off it

Thats complete, charger, battery, transmitter, the lot.

First upgrade would be a sports tuned motor for $30 to really get the tires spinning ;)

And yup, open saturdays marc, look for the tall skinny guy, and throw something at him :p

Madd_Maxx
22-06-2009, 10:38 PM
Ohhh, and i lied, we havent got any rx7's but if u say yes, i can have for you by the weekend if i really really try lol, bout $40 for you bro

Mad Mat
22-06-2009, 11:05 PM
im currently designing a proto-type circuit for the flashing lights :P mine didnt come with it like the drift spec ones do. so if anyone else doesnt hav the module and would like one, let me know and ill try figure out how much its cost me to make :) would be as cheap as possible, just cost of parts. or u can go buy the tamiya one. im just bored and know i can make the same thing for a fraction of the $$$.

let me get back to u :D

scott b
22-06-2009, 11:36 PM
well i just completed the proto-type, it was a huge success :D i took a few photos although u cant really get the full jist of the flashing from photos. but mine has 2 headlights each side and foglights, the lights flash in the configuration of both outside headlights flash fast, then the inside ones flash fast and so on, the foglights r constantly on, and along with the foglights ill be adding taillights. so let me know if u want one, and how many lights and how u want them to flash, i can make them flash in most configurations with only a few slight nods to the circuit. i can even speed up or slow down the flashing. i can post a video on youtube if anyone wants to fully see how it goes.

scott b
22-06-2009, 11:38 PM
actually, out of curiousity, madd maxx, how much are the tamiya light kits worth? and do they have the tailights and brake lights?

bourbon
23-06-2009, 03:00 PM
so whats the difference between the tamiya one and the HPI one...

marcs_sp20
23-06-2009, 07:12 PM
Picked up my painted body this arv, very sexy :D

Mad Mat
23-06-2009, 07:42 PM
lol ya one could say i saw there or saw it :p ;)

scott b
23-06-2009, 10:48 PM
ok...so i made it on proper board today and somewhat of a video of how they go, its not great quality but u get the general jist of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL9XbBQSi48

the yellow ones are my foglights (initial D style), i tested them in comlete darkness and they ctually light up the area really well :) cant wait to get them in my car,

let me know what you guys think.....

Mad Mat
24-06-2009, 11:41 AM
OMG man i love them hey :D

scott b
24-06-2009, 05:00 PM
OMG man i love them hey :D

hoping that was to me, if so :D thank you, i rather like them.. i can change heaps of stuff about it too, make different lights flash at different times, make them flash faster/slower, can get brighter LEDs, and theres always different colours :P

marcs_sp20
24-06-2009, 05:27 PM
Looks great mate :D

Mad Mat
24-06-2009, 07:00 PM
hoping that was to me, if so :D thank you, i rather like them.. i can change heaps of stuff about it too, make different lights flash at different times, make them flash faster/slower, can get brighter LEDs, and theres always different colours :P

:eek: man that was 4 u and omg i want i wwwaaaannnttt

marcs_sp20
27-06-2009, 08:12 PM
Well I received my R/C drifter yesterday along with the rims I also bought off ebay, and all I can say is that its addictive!! Although its a little slow, its still enough to flick around :D:D

Mad Mat
15-07-2009, 02:03 PM
hey guys. i'm getting a GB sorted 4 some TT-01 and TT-01D ball bearing LSD's is anyone interest :) should be about 30 bucks but the more people the less it is and so on. so far:

1. mat
2. ben
3. marc
4.
5.

ok guys. i have finally heardc back from my dealer today about the lsd's 4 th tt-01s. and he said u will also need the rear dogbones aswell as the stock ones don't fit. so all but for 1 lsd and 2 rear dog bones its $55 in total.....

zappy65
16-07-2009, 06:48 PM
OK, so I finally fixed mine...again and she's goin strong....

Its a Great Vigor BV1 2 speed Force.15cc 4WD Nitro Tourer that Ive slowly (with alot of experimentation and $$$) turned into a pretty solid little drifter

Features:
Alloy Belt tensioner
GV Fuel Filter
2 Speed
Volk Meister rims with HPi PVC tyres (+ 26 front / +22 rear)
Custom chassis to remove chassis flex (main weak point on this chassis)
Camaro Shell
Venom Temp and Volt Meter
Locked Diffs front and rear
30k weight / 10k weight (front / rear diffs)
Rear Alloy diff supports
Front and Rear swaybars and endlinks
Stiffer springs and 30k weighted oil in the shocks
Alloy LCA's
Modified extra length (zappy spec) exhaust snout (to prevent fuel on the rear tyres = spin outs)
New HPi hi torque servo's + 3 channel receiver + HPi turnstyle remote.
Full battery setup to self recharge
GV Electric starter kit

Before most mods
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb217/zappy65/P6200317.jpg

After (dodgy phone pics)
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb217/zappy65/16072009005.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb217/zappy65/16072009009.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb217/zappy65/16072009010.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb217/zappy65/16072009011.jpg

Offset anyone?...
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb217/zappy65/16072009012.jpg

marcs_sp20
16-07-2009, 06:51 PM
zaps where did you get the work meisters from, they look hot! :D

zappy65
16-07-2009, 06:58 PM
Toyworld buddy, dunno if they would fit your shell (come in different offsets) and I dont know SFA about the bolt on design on the elec tourers...

The model website of your particular model should have alot of available rim + tyre options.

spenaroo
16-07-2009, 08:04 PM
my latest chassis:D :D, before this i had a sprint 2, its in parts now. ive been into rc drift since jun 08 according to my ausdrift.net profile. http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/spenaz_69/IMG_3305.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/spenaz_69/IMG_3304.jpg
http://i571.photobucket.com/albums/ss155/spenaz_69/IMG_3303.jpg

pics are from a few months ago when i first got it, the electrics were only test fitted, wires are better now.

no body for this one yet, only run in wide open spaces of indoors

marcs_sp20
30-04-2010, 09:50 PM
Bump! :D

Recently bought a EzRun 9T brushless motor with ESC from ebay for $82, not bad for something that I hardly use I guess ;)

Hey Jarrod, what batteries do you use? Tamiya or Deans?

RustyKaos
30-04-2010, 09:59 PM
Still on the Tamiya as they are much cheaper and I don't use LIPO on the E10 yet. I sold all my other RC's as they were just collecting dust but I kept my HPI E10 as it is just so much fun drifting it. I have converted it to rally spec at one stage and kept breaking things so converted back to drift and bought a buggy but got sick of it so it just collected dust. Hence why I sold it but that was about a year ago now. The only other one I had was a TA RC18 which got sold as well. That thing was a rocket for a 1/18th model. :D

RustyKaos
30-04-2010, 10:08 PM
Oh forgot about the Baja 5B as well. Bought it off a mate for a good price and had it for about 6 months when he begged and pleaded me to sell it back to him. So I sold it back to him for the same price I bought it for.

marcs_sp20
30-04-2010, 10:21 PM
Geeze, you sound as bad as Gav! :p

I think i'll just stick with drifting, however the backyard is said to be "heaven" (in Gavs words ;)) due to the different surfaces, but I gotta put my foot down somewhere :rolleyes:

chicaboo
01-05-2010, 12:04 AM
That's OK, I will bring my truggy over to your place and utilise it's full potential in your backyard! :p

And I'm not that bad, I only have 7 cars. :eek: 1 of which I definitely want to get rid of, not sure about another [but it's good money in the bank if I sell it! :D], 2 more shelf queens [1 not built, another never used], and my 3 'daily' cars... :o

Other cars I like are the TA SC8e, HPI Baja 5S V2, and the Kyosho Ultima DB [which is calling my name]. :)

Gav.

RustyKaos
01-05-2010, 07:47 AM
The HPI Baja's are just plain fun but you need a large space to utilise their full potential. I used to take it down to the park as my one was very loud because of the aftermarket exhaust on it. Also is great at a skate park as long as no skaters are there.

Lachlan
01-05-2010, 09:02 AM
Where is the best place to buy a car from? As far as i can gather the HPI e10 is the way to go? Seeing you guys talk about them has made me want one :D

bourbon
01-05-2010, 09:02 AM
check out ebay...

marcs_sp20
01-05-2010, 09:19 AM
yeah, ebay is your friend, I purchased mine that had been used for 4 hours, came with 2 batteries & 14 rims/tyres for $250 shipped! :eek::D

If you just wanna drift, either get HPI E10 or Tamiya TT-01D chassis' ;)

Lachlan
01-05-2010, 09:22 AM
So i should definitely jump on this? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230468767471&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

marcs_sp20
01-05-2010, 09:24 AM
heck yeah!

Or something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TAMIYA-57792-RC-Lexus-GS400-TT01E-DRIFT-RC-Car-RTR-/250616185058?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Radio_Controlled_Vehicles&hash=item3a59e380e2#ht_1295wt_732

Lachlan
01-05-2010, 09:25 AM
Cool thanks, ill keep an eye out on ebay.

chicaboo
01-05-2010, 10:17 AM
So i should definitely jump on this? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230468767471&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
That comes with great body shells!

I was looking on brizdrift last night, and it does seem that the HPI e10 and Tamiya TT01[D] are the ones to get. I've got one of the worst kits to use for drifting, but it still works. :p

Gav.

Clean_Cookie
01-05-2010, 10:23 AM
tc3/tc4 are my pick. sold my tc3 unfortunately. had heaps of parts but hard to buy spares.. i thought that would be a problem until.... UNTIL I slammed into concrete walls at 50+ km/hr, flipped at over 100km/hr (gps didnt survive though :() and caused all sorts of carnage (what were we expecting with 25v of pure goodness and a 1.5kW motor...:P) BUT I NEVER BROKE ANYTHING IN 2 years. most of the stuff i replaced was from me breaking it while trying to fix it... my favourite car of all time, one of the most famous and hence where my name originated from lol.

chicaboo
01-05-2010, 10:26 AM
Here's a fast TC4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKxbnWtzJ1M&feature=player_embedded :p

Gav.

Clean_Cookie
01-05-2010, 10:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=zAwSbILiyW0&feature=related

theres my inspiration right there. not 200km/hr, we werent skilled enough for that, but we were running mamba monster max + neu motor (best motors in the world!!), and a 6s lipo, which was actually quite well balanced. rpm was around 56000 rpm for the motor at max speed which sounded sweet! had to get a carbon fibre shaft made which was a little $$ but enabled this stupid speed

also my currect collection includes a traxxas stampede upgraded and cheap fun (with their velion system), a baja with currently no motor but if anyone wants it, its heaps of fun with a motor - got a rear dom pipe and no joke, wheelies from a standstill with dirt tyres on the road! lots of fun but not much use... just taking up space...

a b44 race buggy with sensored gear to comply with the rules (YUCK!) and nomadio controller (which can and is used for a game controller!, updateable firmware etc, even headphone jack to listen to alerts. has voltage relayed back to the controller too as well as speed (rpm), temperature and other cool stuff!) in stock class but alot of fun :) havent raced this year though :(

chicaboo
01-05-2010, 10:39 AM
I love the Mark Webber right at the end there. I did that with my Kyosho MkII Spider one day when it hit a small undulation in the road at around 60-70kph or something. Amazing how they fly when you get a bit of air under them at the wrong time! :eek:

Gav.

chicaboo
01-05-2010, 11:10 AM
Hey, what ground clearance do you guys run? 5mm, 10mm? I'm wondering if there is any point getting superlows and swaybars for my TL01D. :p

Clean_Cookie
01-05-2010, 11:52 AM
ive found its good to have stiff suspension but where i used to run (suncorp stadium) it was really rough (racing not drifting), the minis were too soft and bounced and flipped whereas mine was high (10mm) but quite hard and would hit the bump and sort of settle down alot quicker even though the inital hit was rough... that was racing with 8turn BRUSHED motors. rather hot and quick. everyone apart from me had 3-8 cars each week. i had one... guess who was the only person EVERY week to still be running around the broken cars... ME! and who had the cheapest car... ME haha. lotsa fun :)

sway bars do make a difference BUT have to race on a track to really notice it UNLESS its really stiff or really soft. going .5mm in thickness up i couldnt ever tell the difference. but then again im more of a set and forget and just hope its faster than the rest :P

chicaboo
01-05-2010, 12:17 PM
Well, the only adjustability on my TL01 is the front toe, as the stock fixed steering arms with toe-in understeered greatly. The only reason I ever got adjustable camber arms on my nitro cars, was to get even wear across all the tyres. And since the TL01 has always worn evenly across the tyres, I never worried about further adjustment. But if I lowered it down to 5mm from 10mm, and put sway bars on it, things might change. If I ever bothered with grip driving again, the 2deg toe-in rear uprights might cause uneven wear too. I'm sort of liking the drifting though, as it's been vastly cheaper than grip driving. ABS tyres last forever, and I find I don't need a big honking motor and bigger batteries to get by. I sort of don't need any more mods the way the car feels, it's not like I compete, and need the last few tenths to get by. :p

Clean_Cookie
01-05-2010, 12:53 PM
Well, the only adjustability on my TL01 is the front toe, as the stock fixed steering arms with toe-in understeered greatly. The only reason I ever got adjustable camber arms on my nitro cars, was to get even wear across all the tyres. And since the TL01 has always worn evenly across the tyres, I never worried about further adjustment. But if I lowered it down to 5mm from 10mm, and put sway bars on it, things might change. If I ever bothered with grip driving again, the 2deg toe-in rear uprights might cause uneven wear too. I'm sort of liking the drifting though, as it's been vastly cheaper than grip driving. ABS tyres last forever, and I find I don't need a big honking motor and bigger batteries to get by. I sort of don't need any more mods the way the car feels, it's not like I compete, and need the last few tenths to get by. :p
sounds like I should get back into drifting and we should met up regularly just for some cheap fun.im kinda getting sick of depending so much of my income on the astina... that said over the years over spent thousands on rc stuff...

chicaboo
01-05-2010, 01:00 PM
Yeah, Mad Matt has cones, so we could setup some courses like the do at the skidpan days, which would make the driving meaningful at least. :)

Mad Mat
01-05-2010, 01:03 PM
Yeah, Mad Matt has cones, so we could setup some courses like the do at the skidpan days, which would make the driving meaningful at least. :)

bahahahaha nice... but i like to use the gutter in that car parks... the closer u get the better but u can hit it or u fark the car :P

also i don't have the cones anymore :( dad doesn't like me borrowing councel stuff anymore

chicaboo
01-05-2010, 01:10 PM
That's OK, I will get a 12 pack off eBay. I just don't know whether to get the flatter discs or the smaller cones:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260595055007&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400118204274&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

What do you think guys? The rounds ones probably won't get knocked over or pushed along by bad drivers like Marc. :p
Also, they would take up less space in the back of my car, and are easier to transport from the back yard to Maccas.

Gav.

marcs_sp20
01-05-2010, 01:19 PM
go to a cheapy store or even Amart all sports :confused:

RustyKaos
01-05-2010, 01:42 PM
If you get a E10 or TT01 please upgrade the main shaft to an aluminium one as using the plastic one will get the slaps happening and can damage internal components.

Clean_Cookie
01-05-2010, 07:56 PM
NIETHER of those options!
we need to get the proper ones, like about 200mm in diameter and about 10mm at the highest point, so that you can run over them without killing your car (cones actually break cars!) and adds to the fun trying to get the tightest line over the "ripple strips!"

"yeah racing" does a set for not much $$ never bothered as one of the other guys had a set of about 10. the other soccer cones fly away in the breeze on concrete too from experience.

chicaboo
01-05-2010, 10:13 PM
I don't think either of those markers/cones would damage a car [much :p], they're not overly big or heavy like a full size "witch's hat". But of these two options, I somewhat think the flatter markers are more practical and easier to move around while providing less of an obstacle for the cars. And if a car does hit them [usually low speed when drifting], they might just get nudged around a bit, and not tip/flip over like the cones would likely do. But if you can find a link to markers that you like, please post it up.

Gav.

RustyKaos
01-05-2010, 11:22 PM
I used to go to cannon hill on the southside and still do every now and then. Those guys use some pretty heavy duty rope to lay out the course that if hit hard would do some damage. Fortunately they are all drifting so only going at a slow pace.

Smashed the escudo shell today and cracked all the front especially around the holes for holding it on. Might not be an easy repair so a new shell will be on the cards. Already have my eye on something that you don't see everyday so should be good. :D

Also here is a pic of my chassis:
http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/rustykaos/IMG_0149.jpg

Clean_Cookie
02-05-2010, 08:49 AM
jarrod... you have clearly never experienced a nimh pack explosion... or you wouldnt be charging the battery in the car...

you guys have much to learn haha! lipos are practially safer if you keep them un-dented and charge them gently....

but i spose then you have to be a bit careful; with runtime etc... and i highly doubt it that you're charging that pack at 6-8A like we used to at the races.

markers like this: http://c0456141.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/images/large/los/losb1013.jpg
from amain they are $6 but im sure they are available in australia just having a looksee.

chicaboo
02-05-2010, 11:10 AM
...going to look up "nimh explosion" on youtube now. :p

Thanks for the pic of the markers, but at $6ea that's about double the price of the flatter markers I found on ebay. If ppl really want the flatter ones, we will have to all put some money in to fund it.

Gav.

marcs_sp20
02-05-2010, 11:32 AM
Has no one thought about going to say Crazy Clarks and buying some small plastic cones that kids use for soccer? :confused: Bah fark it, be back in an hour :rolleyes:

gtarone
02-05-2010, 12:26 PM
hey ya i killed mats rc car last night.... lol..... :P

yer so the fd is no more

chicaboo
02-05-2010, 12:42 PM
See, that's the problem when you only have one RC car. :p

marcs_sp20
02-05-2010, 01:06 PM
ok, 3x 4pk of orange cones have been purchased for $12 total :D

Mat must have been devo'd steve :p

RustyKaos
02-05-2010, 01:25 PM
I only charge at 1.8A and wait for it to cool down before charging so will not experience the battery exploding and yes I have witnessed it before. I have also witnessed a lipo battery explode which in my opinion is far worse. I will be getting some lipo hard packs soon so will be a lot better than your standard packs.

About the markers thanks a lot Marc will be greatful for making a track. Anyone wanna try the concentric circles again. :D

chicaboo
02-05-2010, 01:30 PM
Does anyone have their course cards from the skid pan to use?

RustyKaos
02-05-2010, 01:32 PM
I remember them as they were all very simple and were the same ones used last skidpan.

Mad Mat
02-05-2010, 03:17 PM
OW so when are we doin this again????? i need a new front diff and drive shafts now lol... and a new case too lol

farkin laser tried to eat my FD :(

chicaboo
02-05-2010, 03:27 PM
I've got lots of shells, do you want a new unused [no holes drilled] pre-painted R34 Skyline for $15?

Gav.

RustyKaos
02-05-2010, 05:17 PM
Just bent my main drive shaft as the battery came flyin out. :( Will have to get a new one tomorrow and hopefully get a bit more purple in it with some alloy knuckles and adjustable arms.

Clean_Cookie
02-05-2010, 05:28 PM
...going to look up "nimh explosion" on youtube now. :p

Thanks for the pic of the markers, but at $6ea that's about double the price of the flatter markers I found on ebay. If ppl really want the flatter ones, we will have to all put some money in to fund it.

Gav.
i meant $6 for 12 of them but wahtever. shouldnt be much of an issue with a decent car and low speeds :P only when we were tearing around at 60km/hr did it really matter! ill get one sorted asap...

marcs_sp20
02-05-2010, 06:33 PM
I've got lots of shells, do you want a new unused [no holes drilled] pre-painted R34 Skyline for $15?

Gav.

Ill take it if you can cut out the wheels ;)

spenaroo
02-05-2010, 11:08 PM
as one fd dies another rises :)
going to buy this as the body for my tb evo 3. (it is pre painted - so a filler while i paint an evo 3 shell for it)
http://www.fgmhobby.com/rc_malaysia/images/Mazda%20RE%20RX-7%20FD3S%20image.jpg

chicaboo
03-05-2010, 12:28 AM
Ill take it if you can cut out the wheels ;)
Already done, young squire. :)

marcs_sp20
03-05-2010, 06:42 AM
bring it ou to lakeside this morning ;)

chicaboo
03-05-2010, 12:30 PM
Who here knows about Short Course [SC] trucks? Everybody bar Tamiya seems to have one. Team Associated seem to be the only company making an e8 version. Everyone else is doing 2WD or 4WD e10s.

Gav.

Clean_Cookie
03-05-2010, 06:37 PM
Who here knows about Short Course [SC] trucks? Everybody bar Tamiya seems to have one. Team Associated seem to be the only company making an e8 version. Everyone else is doing 2WD or 4WD e10s.

Gav.
yeah. its like a stadium truck, the ones ive driven are 2wd. small light (CHEAP) plastic tub chassis with a HUGE expensive shell over it. large wheels (like buggy thickness but taller) and generally way overpowered motors installed :P

designed as a cheap fun build. people are starting to race them becuase of how tough and simple they are. dont handle well, and bounce all over the place out of the box (and spending money upgrading stuff isnt the point AFAIK). kinda like the mini racing thats started up over the past years as a cheap and fun alternative to the TC classes which are very compeditive. size wise it was larger than my 1/8 buggy, really wide body but not much to them at all.

hope this helps. talking about the traxxas offerings here - havent seen the AE ones driving in person.

Clean_Cookie
03-05-2010, 06:38 PM
yeah. its like a stadium truck, the ones ive driven are 2wd. small light (CHEAP) plastic tub chassis with a HUGE expensive shell over it. large wheels (like buggy thickness but taller) and generally way overpowered motors installed :P

designed as a cheap fun build. people are starting to race them becuase of how tough and simple they are. dont handle well, and bounce all over the place out of the box (and spending money upgrading stuff isnt the point AFAIK). kinda like the mini racing thats started up over the past years as a cheap and fun alternative to the TC classes which are very compeditive. size wise it was larger than my 1/8 buggy, really wide body but not much to them at all.

hope this helps. talking about the traxxas offerings here - havent seen the AE ones driving in person.
also - doing research into a decent drifter - still undecided on what to buy... leaning towards TC4 or a yoko... 2nd hand of course. rc-tech.net/forum is the place to buy gear (in the australian section!)

chicaboo
03-05-2010, 06:55 PM
I've been looking at the SC trucks some more, and I like the HPI Blitz and TA SC10 [which has the best body shell!]. The Kyosho Ultima SC would be nice, but Kyosho aren't loyal to their customers, and drop parts after a short while, and it has the slowest motor too... The Traxxas Slash is easiest to get parts for, but I don't like the front servo location, and the chassis looks gay [water resistant receiver case is nice though].

Why spend so much on a drifter? I find you don't need a particularly awesome car to drift successfully, and part of the attraction is how cheap it is. My drifter is way cheaper than my offroad monster truck/buggy/truggy [which I'm trying really hard not to go brushless with...].

Gav.

marcs_sp20
03-05-2010, 06:57 PM
Why spend so much on a drifter? I find you don't need a particularly awesome car to drift successfully, and part of the attraction is how cheap it is. My drifter is way cheaper than my offroad monster truck/buggy/truggy [which I'm trying really hard not to go brushless with...].

Gav.

x2, its not like we're going to be entering comps :rolleyes:

outbakoz
03-05-2010, 07:05 PM
So whats a good beginner drifter to buy?

marcs_sp20
03-05-2010, 07:07 PM
So whats a good beginner drifter to buy?

In my opinion, a Tamiya TT-01D ;) Cheap, parts a plenty, good for beginners like me! :D

RustyKaos
03-05-2010, 07:20 PM
The TT01 or E10 are the 2 cheapest options for drifting but I have to say the best drift chassis I have ever seen is the HPI Pro-D but it is very expensive.

chicaboo
03-05-2010, 07:30 PM
I would suggest TT01D as well. I bought my TL01 in 2001, and adapted it for drift in 2005 [TL01D :p]. If I didn't have an on-road chassis already, I would be looking at the TT01D now. Although I wish my current car was a TL01LA. :(

Gav.

Clean_Cookie
03-05-2010, 07:43 PM
best or best value. personally im always after the best value - but also something compeditive if i decide i want to persue that route. my tc3 spent alot of time sideways and enjoyed it alot - but the attraction with offroad was there. now i dont have the time for weekly offroading decided to persue the on road route and keep my traxxas stampede for indestructable fun offroad! with the money from the b44 ill pickup a 300ish deal with tons of spares and upgrades perhaps even a motor. as ive got escs and batteries coming out of my ears already! for me its not much $$ to buy a new chassis as ive spent 100's on the "extras" :)

spenaroo
03-05-2010, 08:12 PM
tt01 is the best beginer drifter. with the tb03 better if u dont want to spend $$$ upgrading, and will last u longer in the learing curve. (has more set-up options) steer clear of the e10's as they are a bit fragile. (not good for new to rc) another one to look at is the ta05, or sprint 2 (both belt drive though, and probably better as a in-between before u go factory carbon)

arguably the best drift cars are ta03 (legendary in the rc drift scene - banned from competition in some countries as it is counted as an unfair advantage) the tb evo's (III is legendary tough, but the IV and V are probably the best in terms of performance) the hpi pro-d is meant to be good, but expensive (however there are knockoffs on ebay that use the same parts, most buy these and replace with genuine parts when needed) and a few expensive race chassis, but not widely used anymore. (too fragile, and too expensive to upkeep with all the open diff's, belts, constant re-builds and tuning etc..)

my recommendation is a tt01, easy for parts, easy to set up, and every man and his dog has owned one. or a tb03 if u want something a bit more unique. and with more options. stay away from yokomo unless u live in adelaide (due to the aus supplier bieng hobby habbit who suck unless u go into the store, and even then everything is ridiculously overpriced, or no stock)

more inf visit melbrc.org

outbakoz
03-05-2010, 08:17 PM
ah cool, thanks for all the info guys

RustyKaos
04-05-2010, 10:19 PM
Fixed my chassis up a bit by replacing the cracked parts, bending the prop shaft back (it isn't the greatest but I will get a new one soon) and installing metal universal joints to replace the plastic dog bones. I also ordered some more purple alloy parts so will be arriving soon. :D I had to put an old shell on it which is my RX7 but I can't find the LED main power cable so the lights aren't working but it has dual red LED's in the rear, white in the main light area and blue in the park light area.
Here are some pics:

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/rustykaos/HPI%20E10%20RC%20Car/IMG_0150.jpg

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/rustykaos/HPI%20E10%20RC%20Car/IMG_0151.jpg

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/rustykaos/HPI%20E10%20RC%20Car/IMG_0153.jpg

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/rustykaos/HPI%20E10%20RC%20Car/IMG_0154.jpg

http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/rustykaos/HPI%20E10%20RC%20Car/IMG_0155.jpg

The upgrades I have done since getting stock are:
Shock tower brace front and rear
Adjustable shocks with progressive springs front and rear (easy to adjust for drift or grip)
Metal universals front and rear
Ball bearings throughout
Locked diff in the rear only
Sway bars front and rear
Alloy bearing steering kit
Alloy prop shaft (a bit worse for wear)
Alloy motor mount
9T brushless and 35A speedy

List of yet to do:
Replace stupid plastic hex's with alloy equivalent (big issue at the moment as they just keep breaking with the new motor)
Adjustable camber suspension arms
Better battery holder
Locked diff on the front as well (maybe)

chicaboo
04-05-2010, 11:00 PM
Why there a hole in the bonnet?

RustyKaos
04-05-2010, 11:01 PM
I was making a custom scoop. :D

Will eventually just mesh it in with the front lip as well. As I said this is an old shell that I have had for quite a while now.

spenaroo
04-05-2010, 11:24 PM
fixed my rear diff today,
used a hammer :) will get a new diff soon, but replaced the broken joints and screw points with a 3mm screw rather then the 2mm original. the hammer was used to push out 2mm bearings for the original screw, and hammer home the new one to fit. needless to say its locked for drifting :)

Clean_Cookie
05-05-2010, 05:54 PM
doing more research. might buy an xray for the track... still not sure. (but xray has one with saddle packs - which i have 5 sets of (lipo) so keen on that, its about 220 posted for the chassis...

RustyKaos
06-05-2010, 12:43 PM
Finally replaced the connectors to Deans and got myself 2 lipo packs and charger. Much more response now. :D

marcs_sp20
06-05-2010, 12:53 PM
How much did that set you back?

RustyKaos
06-05-2010, 01:18 PM
Mates rates so paid $100 for the charger and 2x 4000mah 2c batteries.

Clean_Cookie
06-05-2010, 02:17 PM
20c i hope! just a note just recharge at 50% then charge up at 0.5c for the few times :)

RustyKaos
06-05-2010, 02:24 PM
Sorry typo on that one 20c. They have been used a couple of times before thats why so cheap as the charger is normally $150. Took it out on grip tyres to see what speed I cound get and broke both hex's on the rear wheels with the locked diff within 5 mins. I really need to get some alloy ones to stop that. Am looking at getting these (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HPI-E10-CNC-ALUM-32MM-BRAKE-DISC-HEX-HUB-E10-/200469066612?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eace33374) to fix that issue.

Clean_Cookie
06-05-2010, 04:34 PM
you will soon realise why these cars are so cheap :P fine for going sideways slowly but start adding grip and things get twisted pretty quick. decided on a T2 '009 for the chassis as they are pretty cheap due to the T3 being released. anyone gone to the cannon hill drifts -every thursday night aparently... thinking of going tonight to check it out?

RustyKaos
06-05-2010, 04:47 PM
Yeah I went once last year. If you go tonight I might join in with you?

spenaroo
06-05-2010, 06:08 PM
aww xray,
just found this for u http://www.rctech.net/forum/australia-sale-trade/393713-asc-tc3-roller.html

and every rc i have bought has been from ebay :),
can get decent deals if u know what you're looking at, otherwise its $500 for a tto1

Clean_Cookie
06-05-2010, 07:21 PM
saw tht a week ago... saving for a different car :)

spenaroo
06-05-2010, 11:30 PM
saw tht a week ago... saving for a different car :)

yeah, i dont check rctech very often, the evo is a bit too old for them to come up regularly, and the market is too small for them to instantly sell (even the drifters are going for newer cars, like the evo V or pro d) but i love the chassis, and wanted one ever since i saw one (not too many chassis i could say that about, maybe consider a yokomo ssg if they were ever in decent nick - but same deal, i was just lucky to find probably the only carpet raced evo.)

and post asap on that car when u get it:D considered the corally's rdx??

marcs_sp20
07-05-2010, 03:24 PM
received my ezrun 9t motor, esc & program card as well as 2x 3800mAh this arvo, cant wait to finish work and put them and give it a go! :D

Clean_Cookie
07-05-2010, 03:42 PM
one thing marc - make dead sure your mesh is bang on - or you will do a few things - all of which arent good and cost money to fix :P

get a sheet of paper and use that to set the mesh correctly (pinion spur)

marcs_sp20
07-05-2010, 04:58 PM
righto, will let ya know how I go ;)

marcs_sp20
08-05-2010, 11:41 AM
so I had fun last night, installed the motor and esc, and went for a rip in the local carpark, well I found out the car doesnt like speedbumps at speed :o anyways it flipped a couple times and ripped the wires off the fan forthe esc :eek: I have soldered the wires back on, but am unsure of what or how I should secure the esc... Double sided tape perhaps? As I cant secure it with a ziptie from underneath...

other then that it HAULS ASS :D

chicaboo
08-05-2010, 11:48 AM
Use the 3M d/s tape with the checkers on the peal away bit. It is VERY sticky. :p

Clean_Cookie
08-05-2010, 12:13 PM
yeah 3m stuff, or the stuff from hpbby city is really good too and about 1/100 of the price!
velcro (brand named stuff) has also served me well in offroad with nothing else.

marcs_sp20
08-05-2010, 12:42 PM
used some double sided tape I had at home, and its working a charm ;)

Clean_Cookie
08-05-2010, 12:45 PM
i really want a car NOW! sitting at home bored with no car :( could get my stampede running again but wanna drift!

edit: splurged probably too much but what the hell. i can afford the best in rc just not in 1:10 so heres my latest purchase. have to buy and paint a shell but what to buy... thinking rx7 but would be cool to have an rx8 (i love those things!) anyone seen one before, that or a (wait for it) skyline, as their shape looks great on models... just not a fan in 1:1... opinions> since drifts are at night thinking either orange as i did with my 1.8 buggy or a blue pearl :D

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachments/australia-sale-trade/589048d1273079067-xray-t2-009-sdc10568.jpg

chicaboo
08-05-2010, 01:45 PM
You missed out, Marc has scored my new orange/silver high-visibility R34 Skyline shell. :p

Gav.

Clean_Cookie
08-05-2010, 01:59 PM
also if anyone is interested ive just gotten hold of some a123 cells (LiFe) (think indestructable 30/60C lithium battereies which dont/cant explode and charge at up to 30A safely... great for bashing and offroad. odd shaped but if anyone is willing to give them ago ill show you what they can do. :D

RustyKaos
08-05-2010, 07:09 PM
Nice looking chassis. What is it? For a shell I always say get something different or unique like my next shell which will look awesome drifting. :D

marcs_sp20
08-05-2010, 07:44 PM
Well here is mine with the new motor in :D

http://www.astinagt.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=7&pictureid=271

Had a go on some flat bitumen this arvo in Toowoomba, it definitely is a lot more manageable :D

mkid
08-05-2010, 07:47 PM
my dad, bro and i raced a nitro mugen
in 2007 and placed it 2nd in australia for its class and it was 21 in the world titles
thinking about selling it and we have plently of other stuff like 6 battle wings 2 off road electris one is buggy other is a truck
nitro gear- 3 spare mugen motors 4 extuasts and plenty of spares
anyone interested???
will get all details if anyone is, top speed is 128.6 khm

chicaboo
08-05-2010, 08:15 PM
mkid: Are you talking about a 1/8th 0.21ci powered car?

mkid
08-05-2010, 10:22 PM
yeah i think so cant remember
will have a look tomorrow
each engine was about $500 new
plently of wheels and tryes left
shells complete electric start station
its just sitting there collecting dust
mearly everything is carbon fibre
i dont have enough space to write it all up
was a very good racer fast powerfull
only the work factory ones that came from japan could keep up with it
never maxed it tho could never find a straight enough road for it
plus it sits three mill off the ground
many thousands of $$$$$ was spent

chicaboo
09-05-2010, 12:44 AM
OK, this is relevant if you think of it as dirt drifting. :p I found a place at the GC that sells the HPI Blitz RTR SC truck for $309! Very tempting. Hmmm... (http://www.spxracing.com/_webContent/itemView.aspx?stockUID=7d66d9bb-2a95-441c-8e2d-e7bab8664b9b)

Gav.

RustyKaos
09-05-2010, 07:13 AM
I had a go of the new HPI Vorza Flux 4wd buggy and watch it tear up my mates front lawn. Was a very quick machine.

chicaboo
09-05-2010, 09:15 AM
The HPI website has very impressive speed stats for it if you have 2x11.1v lipo too!

Clean_Cookie
09-05-2010, 11:25 AM
haha well i was the first at the track to convert a 1/8 buggy to electric using a neu and a MMM esc ( mm used before the MMM was available!) and with 4s lipo say goodbye to tyres. destroyed 2 sets with one battery before experimenting with taping the inside of the tyres with electrical tape then adding the foams and gluing... was awesmoe and uncontrollable especially when i geared it correctly (started off with very low gearing to get used to it.) was geared for approx 45mph = 70km/hr ish... bloody quick to get to top speed too. heres a photo of it- somewhat crude but did the job and used a clear body shell so i could show off my gear hah!

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii18/esavageforme/Buggy-firstouting004.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii18/esavageforme/Buggy-firstouting002.jpg

and the orange i want to use again perhaps...
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii18/esavageforme/IMG_6551.jpg

and that chassis in my previous post is an xray t2 009. one of the nicest built cars around. just attention to detail etc which leads to an exorbadant price but hey what the hell, tough as nails too... (about 550 usd new!)
edit : sorry bout huge pics oops...

chicaboo
09-05-2010, 07:15 PM
Just for funs I took the drive gears off the prop-shaft on my TL01B truggy, and ran it RWD with the lowest pinion gear I have [16T 48P]. WOW! There were rooster tails. :D
It has so much power I can't use, so it needs to be controlled by a taller pinion gear or some trained thumb control [sticks FTW!]. Upside to the taller pinion is greater top speed. :)
I think I will put it back to 4WD soon, because in 2WD it just rips the backyard to pieces, and it is somewhat hard to control as it launches. :eek: Will be fun for a while though. ;)

EDIT: I more or less did it to see how I would feel about having a larger 2WD short course truck for instance. :p

Gav.

Clean_Cookie
09-05-2010, 08:58 PM
well got my stampede up and running 2wd and its lotsa fun. cheap too so i dont care who has a go - and pretty damn tough. :) sorta like an SC haha.

mkid
09-05-2010, 10:37 PM
here yous go some pics from today
http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae106/mkid_photo/09052010001.jpg
http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae106/mkid_photo/09052010-Copy.jpg
http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae106/mkid_photo/09052010002.jpg
http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae106/mkid_photo/09052010003.jpg

also have a few specailly made drag shells
and other racing cars and show shells

chicaboo
11-05-2010, 10:37 PM
I put the tallest gear [18T] in the Mini Hornet today, and tightened up the slipper clutch, so now it lifts the front wheels on carpet even more so than before! :p I'm getting a lot of gear noise from this pinion though. :( I haven't had a chance to try it in the dirt with all the rain today. RWD dirt drifting is quite challenging! :eek:

Clean_Cookie
12-05-2010, 06:32 AM
locked diff in the 2wd? or just a spool?

chicaboo
12-05-2010, 10:54 AM
It's a ball diff, but I've tightened it up quite a fair bit because it was letting go occasionally. And being a ball diff, they work themselves loose after a while too. It's a lot better than the ball diff in my TL01D though, which would be rubbish if it wasn't just catching hard ABS drift tyres... :rolleyes: My TL01B truggy has a home made viscous diff, which seems to do OK, but would probably be better off as a locker.

Gav.

Clean_Cookie
12-05-2010, 06:26 PM
i hate ball diffs. only thing which stopped my tc3 from being awesome.. they just kept coming loose and couldnt figoure out how to stop it... even superglue failed with the power (think 6s + long can motor - would actually do a 1/2 decent burnout. check youtube "tc3 burnout" for something similar haha

RustyKaos
14-05-2010, 05:20 PM
Quick question about painting shells:

Can you paint black over white or not. I am going to have white as my main colour but I want a black interior so it is nice and dark inside.

Mad Mat
14-05-2010, 06:07 PM
paint in reverse order on the inside of the shell :D

chicaboo
14-05-2010, 08:35 PM
If you put enough coats of white down, you might get away with it. Otherwise, tint your windows and crazy with the overspray. :p

RustyKaos
14-05-2010, 09:53 PM
Yeah was thinking on doing about 5-6 coats and then back spray with black. I have a can of smoke so might try that as well. I have some left over lexen so will try on that.

marcs_sp20
14-05-2010, 10:04 PM
so are you spraying the outside white? just wanna make sure im gettin this right :p

I thought about painting the skyline shell, but its too nice to ruin :o

RustyKaos
14-05-2010, 10:11 PM
No spraying the inside white as the main colour but I want the inside to be dark so want to paint the last layer black.

chicaboo
14-05-2010, 10:13 PM
My DJR AU body is red, yellow and blue with white backing to bring the colours out.
Jarrod wants to do white [internally] with black backing so you can't see in to the car.

Jarrod: If you are worried, put down a layer of silver before you do the black.

Gav.

RustyKaos
14-05-2010, 10:51 PM
I'm actually thinking silver as the main colour instead of white.

70NYD
14-05-2010, 11:13 PM
well yall convinced me.. i got this 2night :)
hehe (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290434372099&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT)
i know its prob not the best quality but its a start :D

chicaboo
14-05-2010, 11:22 PM
S'long as you can get parts for it.

marcs_sp20
14-05-2010, 11:47 PM
I found this on mazdas247, and although its talking about bikes, is relevant to the point I have tried to portray (and Tony as well :D)


I totally understand where he's coming from, having other hobbies and them not being the best for both.

When i started biking, i had guys freaking out on me for not getting alloy wheels or carbon fiber bars and disc brakes, and etc. etc. etc. cause i was modding my car instead.

chicaboo
15-05-2010, 12:46 AM
Marc, I mean parts as in, "oh $#!T, I just snapped my car in half, and need a new chassis and prop-shaft!". Not, "Oh snap, I wish I had some blue metal on my car!".

Gav.

marcs_sp20
15-05-2010, 07:46 AM
And I meant in reference to keeping it on the cheap side in general :rolleyes:

70NYD
15-05-2010, 09:10 AM
meh its 100, i dont care if it snaps, thats what epoxy n glass is for :p.
i remembered you guys talking about HSP parts and tires and when i saw this car is HSP as well :) and im not serius about racing it, its just for fun :)

chicaboo
15-05-2010, 11:42 AM
Find out who HSP is cloned off, and you will be fine. Most of the clone companies like HBX and HSP have near identical twins from long established manufacturers.
I'm just saying, if you get a part that constantly breaks, you at least have the option to go for genuine parts if the blutac and sticky tape isn't cutting it. :p

Gav.

70NYD
15-05-2010, 12:08 PM
haha yeah i will do
i have a question. if a 1800 mAh battery came with this, can i stick a 5000mAh battery in without it burning out??

RustyKaos
15-05-2010, 12:13 PM
We weren't talking about HSP at all as I have never heard of them. Mainly we were talking about HPI but it sounds like a clone so should be easy enough to get parts. My mate bought a TA clone and has now pretty much replaced it with proper branded parts. LOL

70NYD
15-05-2010, 12:21 PM
HPI thats it haha
whoops
oh well
i found some links and vids and the chassis/parts looks like exactly like exceed rc.
im not stressed about parts either as i found a supplier website for it as well (HSP that is) and everything is rather cheap so yeah :) like i said i know its not quality car but im not gonna be that in to it either. just lookin to have somethin when u guys go n have some fun. I WANNA HAVE FUN 2 DAMMIT haha

about my Q b4, anyone?

mikey_something
15-05-2010, 01:43 PM
out of curiosity... what is the top speed of these things (straight line)?

chicaboo
15-05-2010, 01:45 PM
Actually Jarrod, I was talking about HSP to Ryan, so I figured Tony was referring to that conversation.

Tony, 1800mah won't last very long, but a 5000mah will go for ages and won't damage your gear! What sort of charger have you got?

Mikey, with drift tyres they are not very fast. Maybe 25kph. But with grips tyres they will do 40-60kph depending on the motor.

Speaking of HPI, I'm still keen on that Blitz RTR for $309 posted. :D

70NYD
15-05-2010, 01:52 PM
ok now im confused if or not i heard it haha
i dunno what charger, whatever comes with it i guess
cheers gav :) much love :p

spenaroo
15-05-2010, 02:20 PM
it will be fun for a few weeks to a few months, then u will want to go brand named (tamiya or hpi is my prefence, both are good solid cars. prefer hpi, but parts are/were a bitch when i had my sprint 2) but at least u will have batteries, reciever, charger, motor a new ecu (apparently the stock hsp like to fry themselves) so all u need is a chassis which is a hell of a lot cheaper then buying everything as a package.

top speed stock is around 40-50km/h depending on gearing, modified is as fast as u want to spend money on. but around the 100-120km/h mark before everything becomes ridiculously expensive and custom made.
like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLOGAvhyJ84&feature=related

Clean_Cookie
15-05-2010, 04:36 PM
ok thinking of doing a group buy for lipos (or rahter im getting some so anyone else want to join with me to save shipping. can buy anything you like and its dan cheap (i.e. lipo charger for approx $35 (imax etc) and power supply (either $20 for a 200W one or like 10 for a 50W one- kepeing in mind most chargers only do 50W anyway)

and batteries.. are... cheap. the ezy run escs are $35 too.

all $$ in USD though. shipping isnt stupid and i usually get EMS - 3 days+ 2 days of them stuffing around... lipos are as good as any and used them before.. for us(rather, you guys :P) they are good enough. 4000mah 7.4v 25c lipo HARDCASED which will actually fit in the cars will set you back about $25 aud +shipping. deans plugs are also stupidly cheap and heatshrink/solder... 5000mah are about $35.

check it out: www.hobbycity.com

im happy to order for you guys and you can pay me back for stuff when i get it (but if its alot of stuff i dont have that much money, prepaying would be apprecated... oh one rule, dont tell anyone ESPECIALLY hobbyshops about this one. laughed when i walked into oz rc, similar stuff bought straight from these guys was at 500-1000% markup. I.e. saw battery worth about $10 selling for 75...

edit: good luck figuring out the site and sifting through the items (100000's of them!) im generally pretty good after spending hours searching through stuff over the last few years so if you cant find stuff and you really want it ill probably know where to look - i,.e. the menus include things irrelevant to the section and the search function is virtually USELESS...

Clean_Cookie
15-05-2010, 04:50 PM
WOW. look what i just found:

http://hobbycity.com/hobbyking/store/catalog/HK-GT2.jpg

and the price...$18.99. only downside is its stupidly heavy (shipping weight) but for $20 its A 2.4ghz radio system... what is the world coming to... ill get one for sure.

70NYD
15-05-2010, 05:11 PM
will a 6800mAh battery be overkill for the thing i bought??
ie this? (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/7-2V-6800mAh-rechargeable-battery-pack-charger-RC-NEW-/200465066166?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Radio_Controlled_Vehicles&hash=item2eaca628b6)

Clean_Cookie
15-05-2010, 05:34 PM
grr deleted my post! aargh

the ultimate cheap and POWERFUL setup...
the above radio
a 3s lipo (2650mah 30C)
a 2s hardcased lipo (4000mah, 25C)
a 80W charger
a power supply for the charger
an 9turn (4800kV) finned can motor (58mm long, 36mm diameter)
a 100A programmable esc up to 4s input!
a program card for the esc
+shipping

so at 88c/dollar (stupid paypal) =$230 aud delivered in less than 1 week...make it $250 for me and call it a day :P

sounds like ALOT of money, and yes its a fair investment... just walk into an rc store/ or even WORSE hobbyrama! i paid $150 for a shell, 3 cans of paint and some wheels yesterday... they will charge $150 for the charger /psu alone, $120-170 for the esc for a 35 or 60A one which only does 2s lipos. batteries would be $50+ each...

Clean_Cookie
15-05-2010, 05:36 PM
tony they dont exist. 5600 were the biggest nimh to my knowledge, all the racers used 4600 as they held better voltage. note high quality cells (east power -EP, intellect IP, or GP cells) will yeild ALOT more useable power... hold their voltage better.

LOL AT THE ANSWER AT THE BOTTOM: Q: How long does it take to charge the battery?
A: Hi, the normal charge time is 8-10 weeks . any question please let me know . best regards Cinderella

chicaboo
15-05-2010, 05:43 PM
He has prolly found the eBay link that Marc and I have seen.
They really are advertising it rated as 6800mah nimh... :rolleyes:

Ryan: You should make that silly answer your sig. :p

Gav.

70NYD
15-05-2010, 05:44 PM
LOL i didnt even c that b4
cheers for that i wont get that one

70NYD
15-05-2010, 05:47 PM
He has prolly found the eBay link that Marc and I have seen.
They really are advertising it rated as 6800mah nimh... :rolleyes:

Ryan: You should make that silly answer your sig. :p

Gav.

what is it really?

chicaboo
15-05-2010, 05:55 PM
Well, this is the ad that Marc and I have talked about: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/7-2V-6800mAh-Ni-Mh-rechargeable-battery-pack-RC-Tamiya-/200465066150?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Radio_Controlled_Vehicles&hash=item2eaca628a6

Oh, I broke a wheel on the truggy this afternoon. :(

Clean_Cookie
15-05-2010, 06:03 PM
its probably 3000mah OR its 2 packs soldered together and they got the dimensions wrong. GO LIPO AND YOU WILL NEVER LOOK BACK, NIMH IS FOR SOOKS. tehres a lipo/charger used on ebay at the moment, charger would take AGES to charge (probably max 2A, most likely 1A) adn the battery is probably around 3800-4000mah - youd have to ask... dodgy but might work. with escs without lipo cutoff you need a lipo cell saver (novak make one) OR for the same price buy an esc like above... :) tony theres no real cheap way to do this haha

70NYD
15-05-2010, 06:11 PM
sure there is. there is a cheap way to test everything out. if i get in to this thats a diff story all together

marcs_sp20
15-05-2010, 06:27 PM
its probably 3000mah OR its 2 packs soldered together and they got the dimensions wrong. GO LIPO AND YOU WILL NEVER LOOK BACK, NIMH IS FOR SOOKS. tehres a lipo/charger used on ebay at the moment, charger would take AGES to charge (probably max 2A, most likely 1A) adn the battery is probably around 3800-4000mah - youd have to ask... dodgy but might work. with escs without lipo cutoff you need a lipo cell saver (novak make one) OR for the same price buy an esc like above... :) tony theres no real cheap way to do this haha

Did you not read my last post? I dont think Tony is after quality, but fun factor... im startin to get really pissed off about how farkin good lipo's are... I DONT CARE!!! :mad:

End rant...

OT: I gave mine a great old thrash in toowoomba, and am starting to gain my skills with the cones :D

chicaboo
15-05-2010, 06:36 PM
In support of Marc: The thing is with lipos - you need to buy a costly charger and maybe a PSU to go with it, and then a lipo saver/alarm/cutoff too. So it's really easy to stick with nimh, even if the packs themselves are roughly the same cost... Add to that, after seeing all our different drift set-ups side by side, the big difference wasn't the motor and batteries, it was the tyres. The Tamiya Driftechs seems to give tighter and more controlled cornering than the HPI drift tyres. :o

Say with Intellect [cause they are good and cheap], are 4600mah better than 5000mah?

Clean_Cookie
15-05-2010, 07:12 PM
intellects... are... well...unpredictable...or they used to be when i was into nimh... MANY packs EXPLODED. find some east power (red with black markings) 4200, 4600's etc. the intellects which were pretty volitile (they were however extremely high performance!) were the 4200's from memory. EP's or GP's are typically slightly lower voltages (we are talking .05v under load) but last alot longer and the IR of the cells seem to stay lower over say, 50 cycles... but hell even venom stick packs will do for what you want. either go cheap, or go somewhat quality. the charger i mentioned above does everything and $50 for a PSU + lipo compatible charger is awesome value if you ask me... but then again, its $50 LOL.

marc, yes, nimh is the way to go CHEAP but seeing as tony has nothing its just as cheap to go lipo (except the voltage cutoff, you can get little circuit boards with a digital display which tells you the voltage of the individual cells and buzzes when one cell (or more) hits the 3.0v cutoff, costs around $10, general rule of thumb, use for 80% of the batteries charge rather than depleating it totally (with all packs except nicd)...

also tony check if they will support sxs packs as opposed to stick packs (which is what is the standard) becuase SxS (side by side, connected with battery bars rather than spot welded thin tabs then folded over) are used in racing and cheap packs can be picked up off the forum for dirt cheap (compared to the original cost - which was generally 120 bucks a pop!)

70NYD
15-05-2010, 07:20 PM
ryan i think u missed my post perhaps
well yall convinced me.. i got this 2night :)
hehe (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290434372099&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT)
i know its prob not the best quality but its a start :D


i have something now :) well i did as of 2120 last night :D cant wait for it to come here hehe

Clean_Cookie
15-05-2010, 07:28 PM
waiting for it is the most annoying. especailly when i paid for mine like a week ago. stupid australia being so damn big.

yeah saw it. had another look. has the cutouts for sxs (another advantage is that the pack sits lower by about 2mm lowering the C.o.G.) but who knows what teh chinese have done, maybe they are just here for looks - but if its a clone then sxs (highly recommended if you find some - easier to repair if a cell dies and better construction (depends on who built the pack though!)) will work.

chicaboo
15-05-2010, 07:33 PM
Tony: The car you got looks great for the money, and the shell is awesome. The only dud part of the package is the provided motor and battery. But you don't really need a mad motor for drift anyhow...

When you get it, you might want to try it out first on a level concrete area and do some figure 8s, then check your camber adjustment is giving you even "tyre" :p wear. This isn't essential with a drift car, but it's nice to know your car is balanced.

Gav.

RustyKaos
15-05-2010, 07:42 PM
If all you want is drift that machine will do it very good. Use the supplied battery for testing then get a 4000+ battery for longevity and all will be good. Make sure to get some drift tyres for spares as they dont last very long (at least mine never do :( ) and all will be good.

70NYD
15-05-2010, 07:45 PM
thx for the advice peeps :D looking forward to drifting by all of you :D
what is that motor thats in it? i am looking another battery anyway :)
love the shell, love the 350 :D

chicaboo
15-05-2010, 07:48 PM
It might be a base 27T 540 motor which they've prolly rotated the end-bell to get more timing advance [closer to 23~25T?].
That's an old fashioned dirty trick used in stock racing classes that used to be able to be simply done with a screwdriver.

70NYD
15-05-2010, 08:13 PM
ahuh ok that jargen is over my head right now haha. How would i find out wat motor it is? Also whats xxT mean? Number of teeth?? Lol

marcs_sp20
15-05-2010, 08:23 PM
ahuh ok that jargen is over my head right now haha. How would i find out wat motor it is? Also whats xxT mean? Number of teeth?? Lol

Have a looksie through these video's, both Gav & I learnt a bit here ;)

http://www.ehow.com/video_4416600_selecting-proper-rc-motor.html

Clean_Cookie
15-05-2010, 08:35 PM
how many turns of wire wound around the armature. brushless is an entirely different kettle of fish with AC.

brushed, 2 contacts called brushes are held onto the top of the armature with mini springs (which really dig into your fingers when changing the brushes. these keep in commutator with a split in it (to avoid short ciruit... the other end of the brush has a wire coming out of it which is where your esc wires (electronic speed control) join onto.

the more times the wire is wund around the commutator, the more lines of flux the magnets cut through and basically = motion. dont totally remember how or why but more turns = slower (think of it like resistance wire, the longer it is, the less voltage will be available out the other end due to voltage drop blah blah blah...)

then you wil also so things like 10x2 which is a 10 turn motor with the windings split into two seperate wires, gives it more torque i think... dont quote me on that. (like brushless motors have differnt poles, most common are 2 poles, 4 ploles offer greater efiicciency at teh expense of rougher startup (somtimes) and 8 poles are too complicated for alot of speedies and wiill only run at 30k rpm or less...


anyway thats all i remember from brushed motors... learning about magnetism and motors on monday... now i will procede to watch the video to discover ive just explained it all wrong and confused you :P

chicaboo
15-05-2010, 08:37 PM
When we talk about gearing, xxT means the number of teeth. When we are talking about motors, xxT means how many turns the motor is.

Clean_Cookie
15-05-2010, 08:46 PM
bigger pinion (the one on the motor) = faster, bigger spur (the other one :P) = slower. for stock racing esp with brushless motors (which typically have ALOT more torque and better efficency) you generally run out of room to just add a bigger pinion s what you do is drop teeth on the spur gear and then run the same pinion, or increase it more etc... blah blah blah... you get the idea. there are also some magical gears in the diffs which sometimes depending on the model can add different ratios front and rear to make it spin faster in the rear than the front. doing this with grip tyres will destroy the teeth and any chance of it going in a straight line, but chuck some drift tyres (also LOCK the rear diff) on and youve got a totally different style of drifting. its called CS or counter steer... so thats what CS means if you see it on a forum. just some housekeeping when you receive it, tear open the diffs, and make sure they are reasonably tightly meshed together, alot of the time they are so sloppy and any extra movement will make it alot more likely to strip the teeth = no more fun. im assuming the diffs will be pretty simple, you can add shims to either side of the output to stop side to side movement and/or take off the smaller gear from the shaft (if possible?) and add shims to bring it closer to the main gear (sometimes known as the planetry and sun gears...)

Clean_Cookie
15-05-2010, 09:03 PM
jarod you asked where i bash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tB8HaLY0_k&feature=channel&fmt=18 as well as on the street... and tony thats a stock car with a 27t motor.. on rubber tyres, with proper drift rings it was a mean drifter...

RustyKaos
15-05-2010, 09:18 PM
Nice area for drifting there plus the poles for drifting around.

Clean_Cookie
15-05-2010, 09:59 PM
its about 3 times bigger and free on weekends.. and less than 100m from my house :P

heres an AWESOME step by step guide, i found it very interesting and helpful but may be a bit too podantic for just bashing, its always nice to learn something! takes about 1 hrs to watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sliCxsIZ3v4&feature=related

70NYD
15-05-2010, 11:53 PM
thx for that gav, ryan n marc
I learned a bit on how brushed and brushless motors work in a few of my elec units never got to play with em. And i know a bit about gears and such, learned about design and got to design few gearboxes, one major assignment, il learn a bit more about this cus im not up to speed on this rc jargon yet.

chicaboo
16-05-2010, 12:37 PM
There is a place at Underwood [behind WOW] called RC Zone that has an indoor track they use for short course trucks every 2 weeks. Would anyone be interested in going along to watch? Ryan, Tony? :p

Gav.

EDIT: Here is a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDb11Au3TVU)of the track. No way would I put my offroader on that course... It's a bit friendlier for drift (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02EP0_C_Rkk)cars though.

RustyKaos
16-05-2010, 02:18 PM
looks interesting. Wouldn't mind going one time to just watch.

Clean_Cookie
17-05-2010, 09:11 PM
well i got three parcels today! so with all the bits and pieces i could put together somthing to test it... the chassis is quite nice and VERY light. even with all the components it would be pretty close to the weight of my old tc3 without the battery! has a front locked diff currently and a spool in the rear, will buy another mulitdiff so i have complete adjustability... only problem is the $75 pricetag. :(

other than that, the battery suits well and dont mind the rush installation job couldnt find my double sided tape so a cabletie and velcro had to do!
servo is a nice old analouge 0.09s one i got for $30 shipped, which works well!
motor is a speed passion 17.5 (which will be geared to match your 9 turns... :D) also for $30 used off the forums, ESC is an LRP sxx variety - so good its now banned in some races! (has a few power modes which allow the motor to spin as fast as it can without the usual motor rpm limit. basically on longer straights these were as fast as much lower turn motors...) cost $225 new. reciever is from the stampede which now has an fm variety in it. cost 180. battery cost $50. wheels/tyres cost $20. so total cost for this sucker (body yet to be painted...$150!) is: $975! oops... luckily i already had the esc and motor, radio, tyres/wheels and batteries... sold the buggy today for $260 so the chassis effectively cost $30! +$150 for the shell, $30 for the servo... anyway too much money regardless!
heres some bad pictures...
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii18/esavageforme/IMAG0080.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii18/esavageforme/IMAG0079.jpg
:)

marcs_sp20
17-05-2010, 09:38 PM
just remembered the Ipswich city centre has a HUGE underground car park thats is basically deserted on weekends, could give it a go when peeps are free?

And inregards to the above post, im kinda glad I have only forked out $360 for my car (and that even includes buying it :rolleyes:) and spent the other $600 on actual car mods ;)

Just remeber, its still a toy! :p

chicaboo
17-05-2010, 09:56 PM
Funk, so much for drifting being cheap! :eek: Oh well, the TL01D cost me $100 10 years ago. Maybe I've spent $150-200 on it mechanically, not including shells. My TL01B is a bit more expensive I think, but I'm able to use it more often [when it's not broken! :p]. Oh shiz, I should give the poor little Mini Hornet a run tomorrow. I heard it crying out for brushless the other day too. :rolleyes:

Gav.

Clean_Cookie
17-05-2010, 10:16 PM
meh. to me rc cars is my hobby and my car is just TOO expensive! saying that ive joust paid for 4x hardcased lipos, a dremel tool + attachments, a few hobby knives(@ 19cents each you cant say NO!), one of those 2.4ghz controllers becuase im courious, and heaps of AA LSD batteries ( low discharge batteries supposedly as good as eneloops, @ $2 each... i love china.... there goes another $120 bucks!

phildough
17-05-2010, 10:24 PM
Wynnum Plaza car park has a under cover car park and there is actually a RC track 2 min up the road.
There is no one there most of the time when I drive past.
Wynnum RC track (http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=bmx+track+wynnum&sll=-25.335448,135.745076&sspn=50.889669,67.675781&ie=UTF8&cd=1&hq=bmx+track&hnear=Wynnum+QLD&ll=-27.461089,153.147315&spn=0.000783,0.001033&t=h&z=20&iwloc=A)

chicaboo
17-05-2010, 10:32 PM
That BMX bike track looks good for putting SC trucks on too! :D

70NYD
17-05-2010, 10:33 PM
man this is the way i c it. 900 is alot of money. but money is only money. its no good sitting there collecting some small interest ;) if u can make it in to something fun awesome work :D i spent 900 last year on my rims.. hell id do it again i LOVE these things i spent 1300 for the suspension but damn does my car glue to the corners ;) my car is my hobby. to me rc cars are just for fun sake. but to alot of ppl cars are just a-b devices.. u dont have to justify anything to anyone ;)

so
1stly damn that looks sexy ryan
2ndly marc thats sounds like a awesome idea im up for it any time after the 22nd of june haha (last test)
3rdly gav i am lookng forward to seeing all ur sht in action :D (love the mini hornet, if its the same thing im thinking of i used to have a cheaparse version that ran on aa batteries when i was growing up :D, had another one a with masive spiked tires that could climb up our croched curtains back home overseas :D)

i think i might have found a 5K kv engine to stick in this thing (brushless) pending on how the 1st few runs with this one go when i get it and charge it. that and a ESC of ebay for around 30 all up :D i just have no idea how to program the ESC (i read in a few places u program them)

chicaboo
17-05-2010, 10:44 PM
Here is a Mini Hornet with a few mods. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouGqAMWfuI0)

EDIT: This is a real full size Hornet. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6_cC8fweJ4&feature=fvw)

70NYD
17-05-2010, 10:50 PM
yep thats it i had something same size but complete out of box and not branded :D hell of a lot slower tho haha i was only like 7

question :D
how do u change tires on the rims?

chicaboo
17-05-2010, 10:57 PM
There was a thing in the late 80s called a Jet Hopper, which was somewhat modelled after the Tamiya Grasshopper/Hornet. It ran on AA batteries, and was slow. :p

If it has ABS plastic tyres on the rims, just buy new Tamiya wheels with pre-fitted "Type D" hardened rubber on them. They are a bit grippier. ;)

RustyKaos
17-05-2010, 11:23 PM
To change the tyres you need to put it in boiling water to take them off and to put them on.

bourbon
18-05-2010, 08:57 AM
some people need to get a life out side of cars, be it real ones or R/C ones :p

70NYD
18-05-2010, 09:01 AM
haha nathan ur only saying that cus ur new house is ur new toy :p

Clean_Cookie
18-05-2010, 09:37 AM
good point but may be worth replacing the rims too as cheap plastic rims crack very easily. "and let the upgrades begin!"says a man in a loud voice... painting my body today orange with black never done one properly before so it will be very simple and easy to see.

Mad Mat
18-05-2010, 09:55 AM
just picking up my new dog bones today.. so the old girl will be back and run ning in no time :D but still need tires :(

what do u all run???? i get these ****ty venom ones 4 25 bucks and i go thru them in one battury life (45 mins)

chicaboo
18-05-2010, 10:05 AM
I ordered pre-fitted Tamiya Type D after seeing how controlable Marc's car is. Tamiya also have Super Driftech, but I think they are a harder compound.

Mad Mat
18-05-2010, 10:48 AM
are these drift tires or race tires???? i'm after race tires as i have drift one already bro

chicaboo
18-05-2010, 10:58 AM
You only just said race tyres then... In that case, get foam tyres. I used to get a lot of mileage out of them on an 80kph nitro car, so they should be fine for you. BSR Racing used to make the best rubber tyres, and now they pretty much only do foam tyres.

70NYD
18-05-2010, 10:54 PM
my sheer briliance (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290433979903&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)
or lack there off.. i thoght i could stick this in a rc car.. i mean dimensions line up, almost (the shaft dimensions) but the motor just seems like it would lack so much power cus its so small... seems small.. but the 5000 Kv seems nice :D im guessing its so small cus its made for a EDF... oh well.. my hunt continues.. and i havent even gotten the car yet haha

RustyKaos
18-05-2010, 11:08 PM
Interesting design but I doubt it would fit. You need a 540 motor size.

chicaboo
18-05-2010, 11:11 PM
Fail! :p

Some wheel/axle extenders arrived for the truggy today. These widen the car by another 2".
I will run wider wheels/tyres front and rear eventually [like a stadium truck]. It should be good. :)

70NYD
18-05-2010, 11:15 PM
it wouldnt fit without some sort of adapter (not hard to make seing how it can be made from alu sheet) but its smaller diameter, so new bracket for bottom support would have to go in lol.. anywhoo i found a 540 sized 6T motor.. but its bloddy $70 :( oh well if i really enjoy this thing il stick some lipo and 6t/9t and 80A ESC in it.. (9T is like $35 :D)

chicaboo
18-05-2010, 11:22 PM
The best way to get a brushless, is to buy a Hobbywing EZRUN 60AMP combo with 9/13/17T motor or something. The 60A ESC allows you some freedom to run lipo batteries some day. The 35A ESC combos are much cheaper, but are really only good for nimh batteries with a high kV motor. Or lipo with a low kV motor. Well, that's my opinion anyway...

To calculate your continuous amps, I think you multiply the motor amps by the continuous C rating of the battery then divide by 10. :p eg: 40A motor X 20C battery = 80A ESC required. I hope that makes sense. If I'm wrong, one of the sick bros will correct me. :p

Gav.

Clean_Cookie
19-05-2010, 07:19 AM
or just listen to me.... grr lol.