It's uphostery time for my BG

[Golden Oldie]

Hey guys! I hope I've placed this thread into the right category:cool:

I've been thinking about my cars upholstery for some time so, rather than contemplate, I have just purchased some navy micro fibre upholstery material BUT! I need to ask a few questions I hope you can help me with.

First of all, those covered panels on the top of the door trim, how do you remove it? I am asking before I rip it to bits myself when maybe someone here can give me a heads up, first.

Second, I am also going to cover all the plastic molding in the hatch. Can someone recommend a good glue that won't bleed?

I'm not doing the seats. Seat covers take care of that and I'm not really that good :rolleyes:

If anyone can throw a couple of tips my way I would appreciate it. Thanks

[Golden Oldie]

Oh! what I meant by remove the panel, I meant seperate it from the rest of the trim with very little damage.

I'm not removing the old stuff. Just putting the new fabric over the top. I think that will work ok?

Thanks

[karamello]

last time i took apart the door trim, it looked like the fabric panel was stapled to the actual trim

im thinking of doing this myself when i have the time/energy...take some progress pics ;)

[chrisw]

its best if you can pick up some older door panels and strip stuff, BUT as ive done in the past go pick up some upholstry glue, spray it on your fabric and on the panel.

then spread it over smoothly, and staple it on the other side. in the case of the plastic trim, your going to have a harder time, maybe use some super dooper glue on the backside where it doesnt matter if it bleeds.

ill be doing something similar to mine shortly, though using a charcoal or similar basic coloured trim.

[Golden Oldie]

Thanks for your replies.

Hmmm! stapled argh!!! I will take one of the trims off this weekend and have a poke around.

I stuck my fingernail around the edges of the fabric panel and I think there will be enough gap to 'force' the new fabric into and glue should hold it in place.
The top of the panel will be the easiest.

Uphostery glue spray. Is that going to work over the plasic in the hatch or just on the doors?

The only thing that worries me is, the glue is going to go off faster than I can move the new fabric into position. I know I'm going to have to cut out the holes after it's on. The plugs & screws shouldn't be a problem.

I was going to use charchol color as well but, by accident, I recieved the wrong colour front seat covers a while back (I wanted red & silver) they sent me blue/silver. Hey! I liked it and the navy looks pretty good with the grey interior and champaigne paint. I can't understand Mazda though why they put in taupe carpet at the factory?? Should have been grey as far as I'm concerned.

Yup! I will post progress pics. and if anyone else has anything to offer it will be great.

This ain't gonna be easy.:eek:

Cheers!

[karamello]

im going to be completely replacing my carpet with a new one soon as well...you should have a look around. ive found a couple at around 200 delivered without holes cutout. you can get them in all different colours so you may find one thatll match your new interior

[chrisw]

if your talking about the holes in the plastic trim in the boot, just cover the whole panel nice and tight, straight over those holes.

when its on, cut diagonally from each corner then fold them behind the panel and secure.

like you said, screw holes wont be an issue.

[Golden Oldie]

Thanks for your input with is. I really appreciate it.

I've got some ideas floating around in my head and will go ahead with them.
I will post pic's if it works. The first door is experimental and ready for anything. Once the glue goes on HEY! I may have to buy another skin.

Anyway, wish me luck!

I am thinking twice about covering the hatch panels as I feel the fabric will crease too much. Might actually go the hard way with another idea I have. See what happens:eek:

Later

[70NYD]

if your other idea is to spray paint it, im warning you, dont, unless you are really proficient and know what your doing, rushing will lead to flaking paint later... trust me lol

[DavoAust]

ahaha what did you do tony?

basic spray painting is easy enough, you just have to prep it right (says the person who needs to respray 2 bumpers and a lip :p)

[70NYD]

my old car was done in 2 parts inside wise. 1st part i preped it right and it turned out good. i did it on a good warm calm day. second time it was just about to rain, i rushed and didnt prime ffs lol and few weeks later it flaked haha :( only in a few spots but enough to piss me off..

[Golden Oldie]

OH! Tony, No! No! No! LOL ...I'm not going to paint:eek: Thanks for the tip, anyway :)

Change of plans. Don't like the navy blue, anymore. Still would have looked OK but, it's a womans perogative to change their mind. YES? :D

Anyway, I have just bought some grey (graphite) suede off ebay for a bargain. Don't ya just love eBay sometimes...well, the grey will definitly look better.

My idea:

Make template of fabric panel on door
Allow for 3mm piping around edges + 1/4" overlap, except for the top.
Glue into place leaving edges until glue sets.
Glue edges with stonger glue, tucking in the 1/4" overlap, under the panel which, by rights and if cut out perfectly, the piping should line up.

There isn't much room to play with around the edges so, it must be perfect.

Have I put you guys in the picture? You know as much as me at the moment as to what it's going to look like and, even if it's going to work:confused:

Lata

[Golden Oldie]

Haven't done much. Waiting for materials.

Anyway, here is the beginning. Will update htm with progress.

Gotta start somehwere, right?:D

http://kezfool.bravehost.com/car%20trim.htm

Lata

Kez

[chrisw]

your doors look in quite good condition at least i have to say.

my car is officially off the road too, so when i get some hot dong, i mean hot dollars, ill start a similar progress report, waiting for your results first though :D

[Golden Oldie]

Not everything went as smooth as I hoped, but, it really isn't as difficult as it may look :o)

http://kezfool.bravehost.com/car%20trim.htm

More lata

[chrisw]

looks like a great start man, Keep us informed on how that new adhesive goes.

Unlike you, im re-upholstering my ENTIRE door, so im going to have some fun with curves and edges. especially on some of the fibreglassed speaker parts :(

what was the first adhesive you used that bled? it wasent 3M was it ?

[Golden Oldie]

The original adhesive was Selleys Kwik Grip (not the gel). The runny stuff like honey. My brain wave was telling me that this was a little too potent for the job but alas! I listened to the salesman and not my head.
This GEL is like butter and speads the same. I deal for vertical jobs, too.

It is morning now and there is no bleed with my sample so, I'm off to sew another panel and stick it on. I will post more pics later.

You are going to do your WHOLE door. WOW! Good luck. The edges will be easy enough but those curves around the arm rest etc. won't be all that easy I'd imagine. And also, having the same fabric on the whole door, I can't imagine. I will look forward to your project as well.

Cheers!

[karamello]

sewing machine :(

looks good in the pics though

[Golden Oldie]

http://kezfool.bravehost.com/car%20trim.htm

If you have any questions. Please ask.

This was my first time and believe me...If I can do it, so can you ;)

[Golden Oldie]

First of all, I just completed the HTM with the final photos. The project is finished! and ready to stain the brain with a few other upholstery ideas :o)

ANYWAY!....
Hey BG owners! I threw out the back template, but, if anyone is interested in the front one, I will send it to you :)
Just email me at kez2007@gmail.com with your address and I will stick it in the mail. I will even ADD the extra 2cm allowance on the pattern.

That's all for now and would love a little feedback with what I have done.

Cheers!

Kez (MADAZ)!;)

[chrisw]

ive been instructed by the local upholstry guys to use 3M 75 or 78 spray, whatever it is, apparently its what they all use for headliners, resists up to 70 something degrees before softening

[Golden Oldie]

ive been instructed by the local upholstry guys to use 3M 75 or 78 spray, whatever it is, apparently its what they all use for headliners, resists up to 70 something degrees before softening

We don't have an upholster here but they obviously know what they are talking about.

The Selleys Kwik Grip GEL is heat resistant to 130c (according to the tin) and found I had time to 'work it' before it went off. I don't know about the 3M 75 or the spray how fast it dries, but, you really do need time to get the fabric in place before it bonds.

My jobs were only small areas so, I glued both the door and the fabric at once and still had time to lift a little if it was off alignment. I matched the outside bottom first but then worked the glue from the inside out, getting rid of any bubbles. The selleys also gives you 20-40 mins before it bonds completly. 24hrs for 100% dry but, you can't move it really after 20 mins or you break the skin.

A roof lining, I would imagine you would glue down, little by little, bit by bit??? to avoid creases. Once it's on, it's ON to stay! It would have to take more than one person to do?

Good luck and am following your progress. Sounds awesome!:D

[so fresh]

My jobs were only small areas so, I glued both the door and the fabric at once and still had time to lift a little if it was off alignment. I matched the outside bottom first but then worked the glue from the inside out, getting rid of any bubbles. The selleys also gives you 20-40 mins before it bonds completly. 24hrs for 100% dry but, you can't move it really after 20 mins or you break the skin.

is this for the door card or the roof lining?
If so any pics of the job before n after

[Golden Oldie]

is this for the door card or the roof lining?
If so any pics of the job before n after

This was just for the door trim. Just covered the fabric bit. All the pics are UP THERE ↑ in earlier posts.

Turned out rather well concidering I went in blind:rolleyes:

I like it better than the original and the pics really don't do it justice.

[so fresh]

This was just for the door trim. Just covered the fabric bit. All the pics are UP THERE ↑ in earlier posts.

Turned out rather well concidering I went in blind:rolleyes:

I like it better than the original and the pics really don't do it justice.

so u just put the glue over the old fabric thats on the door trim and put the new 1 on top of it?
like fabric over fabric?

[Golden Oldie]

so u just put the glue over the old fabric thats on the door trim and put the new 1 on top of it?
like fabric over fabric?

YUP! Worked well. There was no way I could get the old stuff off. I think it's been heat glued on in the factory.

Just had to find the RIGHT glue that wouldn't go off too quicky and of course, no bleed. The Selleys did a good job and, you don't have to be afraid of it, meaning, I just lathered it on both the door and the fabric and, if I made a bit of a mess on the plastc, it wiped off straight away but, you gotta get it, straight away.

[so fresh]

YUP! Worked well. There was no way I could get the old stuff off. I think it's been heat glued on in the factory.

Just had to find the RIGHT glue that wouldn't go off too quicky and of course, no bleed. The Selleys did a good job and, you don't have to be afraid of it, meaning, I just lathered it on both the door and the fabric and, if I made a bit of a mess on the plastc, it wiped off straight away but, you gotta get it, straight away.

brilliant!!:D
just blow dry the old(to melt the glue)pull off the old and put in the new

this link should be a sticky on "how to do"
http://kezfool.bravehost.com/car%20trim.htm

[chrisw]

well, to update, i didnt get the kwikgrip gel, i just got the blue tin of kwik grip. will be using that for all my upholstery, maybe the roof liner, unsure if i want to go with 3M spray or selleys gel for the roofliner.

BTW your job looks sweet, good job. now all you have to do is the carpet, roofliner and seats :P

[Golden Oldie]

well, to update, i didnt get the kwikgrip gel, i just got the blue tin of kwik grip. will be using that for all my upholstery, maybe the roof liner, unsure if i want to go with 3M spray or selleys gel for the roofliner.



The BIG mistake I made was in the BLUE TIN! Very leaky, bled and ruined my first panel. Also very runny. No suitable. I took it back and changed it for the GEL. It was their fault for selling me this stuff as I asked for specific glue to suit upholstery job.

The gel is like butter. It speads easily and you have plenty of time to work it before it bonds.

Trust me Chris.....take the blue tin back!:eek: