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Jun
24-12-2003, 01:09 AM
Hi guys,

This is a great forum, I just joined!

I just bought a 1997 Astina Hardtop 1.8L. I want to upgrade my wheels form the ugly factory ones. I have 2 question if anyone can help me?

Q1: Dose anyone know what size is the wheels? I know its 4 studs but whats the PCD?

Q2: Can I put a 18 wheel on it? Or 17 is the highest I can go as far as legally?

Thanks 4 the help guys appreciate it!

Jun

ABC
24-12-2003, 08:50 AM
Welcome to the boards Jun!

Dan (Rupewrecht) is running 17s on his hardtop - Dans Readers Ride (http://www.astinagt.com/readers/ride.php?userid=rupewrecht)

There are a few other discussions about wheel sizes around the place - try the search tool at the top.

Some of the other guys might be able to add some more useful info as they've run wheels that big and bigger 8)

Rupewrecht
24-12-2003, 10:10 AM
4/100 PCD with an offset of about 37

you can go 18 - it's just the width thats the hassle with insurance etc.

oh, and welcome :D

Jun
24-12-2003, 10:29 AM
Thanks for the input guys :D

Andy, I'll going to cheack out Dan's car soon and try out the search tool.

Rupewrecht, yeah good piont I better check with AAMI b4 I buy the wheels :)

pr1mo
28-12-2003, 12:44 PM
welcome to the boards jun. where in australia are you from???

dont go any bigger or smaller than 17" but ech to their own i guess!

cheers mike

Dogo
28-12-2003, 04:08 PM
hi ! :D

in my opinion, the wheel area is too wide on the astinas, go a nice big set of 18s to combat this :)

i feel 17s arnt really a big enough gain to really make it worth the hassle of having mags. to me, 17s say "i want big wheels coz theyre 'cool' but i dont really want them" ... but they do have the advantage over 18"s, that you can actually tell when the tire is flat :lol:

welcome, and enjoy the forums :D

Jun
29-12-2003, 12:58 PM
Hi Mike, I from Sydney.

Yeah my original plan was to get a set of 17 but thought 18 might look better. Im more into the look of my car then performance u see. Cant make up my mind so came to ask u guys 4 some recommendation.

Dogo, r u sure 18 will fit ok on my 97 Astina? Cause I went to Bob Jane T-mart today and they told me that 17 is the biggest I can go.

I also thinking of lowering my car after the wheels. What do u guys recommend? Do I have to lower it more if I have 18 on?

Do u know anyone on this forum actually have 18 on there Astina Hardtop?

Cheers,

BigMal
29-12-2003, 02:07 PM
18"s DO LOOK BETTER !!!
Wouldn't go back to 17"s ever unless they booked me every other week for
them. Touch wood never been hassled by cops for having 18"s. Was followed
by an unmarked car through brighton and along Southern Cross drive I am
weaving through traffic not really speeding just maintaining speed and after following
me for about 5km's just pulls up beside me to let me know he's a cop and then
turns off. Touch wood all good !!

Regards

Mal

JynX
29-12-2003, 02:33 PM
Was he in a black XR8?? Probably the same punk who booked me.

BigMal
29-12-2003, 05:44 PM
Nah white commodore exec. Could have been just driving to work
and just wanted to give me me a scare almost worked except once
I see them I just keep going as they are either going to book me or
not no point slowing down once you are seen is it.

So what you doing for NY's FAG ???

Cosmo Dude
29-12-2003, 06:09 PM
If your only interested in looks then find a design and go with it....
The 17's while not as big will give a nice ride :D
while
The 18's don't have the forgiveness and you'll feel way more bumps :D

Me, I'm sticking with the 15's or maybe 16's in the future if I don't upgrade to the 3 SP23

Rod

Rupewrecht
30-12-2003, 01:16 AM
if they'd made my rims in 18's i would have got them. having said that, it's nice having some compliance in my ride and putting slightly less stress on my gearbox!

Jun
30-12-2003, 04:41 PM
Thanks guys! :D I think I have made my decision. 17 is the way to go, ride comfort is important to me too :D

Happy New Year to everyone!!!

pr1mo
30-12-2003, 04:52 PM
yep some 17 x7's and some nice 205/40/17 tyres will do the trick i think!

what styles have u been looking at???


cheers mike

Jun
04-01-2004, 11:56 AM
sorry mike, I'm still on holiday don't go on the net much.

haven't looked into wheel styles yet but I don't really like chrome much.

arden
04-01-2004, 01:45 PM
Jun,
woteva u do, dont get ur wheels done at bob jane...they'll rip u off.
Check out big o's in moorebank.
17" packages start around $1450.
Guys over there are really helpful....and dont rush you off..

JynX
04-01-2004, 02:39 PM
tempe tyres are pretty decent as well. take cash and the price is always negotiable :)

pr1mo
05-01-2004, 02:17 PM
sorry mike, I'm still on holiday don't go on the net much.

haven't looked into wheel styles yet but I don't really like chrome much.

i had a set of chrome wheels once. they peeled after 4 months!! theo (toyboy) has had 3 sets peel wheras others (sik Mik, big mal and lantis) all have had no troubles with their chrome wheels!

pr1mo
05-01-2004, 06:01 PM
there is a decent set or rims for sale in the (wait for it) forsale section. only $850 now.

could be worth checking out

cheers mike

deon_attard
05-01-2004, 11:46 PM
18" wheels give a very harsh ride - I'm not sure how much tyre choice has to do with the harshness - or if its just purely the size factor.

I've got Toyo Proxies on mine and they grip really well - the car handles like its on rails. But hit some rough stuff and it'll rattle your teeth out! Maybe I'm just getting old.

The 18's are also very skatey in the wet - but this could be to do with the sway bar and strut braces.

The roads up here in North Queensland are probably a lot worse than you are dealing with down south though...

pr1mo
07-01-2004, 11:26 AM
nah. i experienced the same sensations down in melbourne when i had 18's a quick trip to a mag place ad a trade in for 17"s fixed the problem

cheers mike

deon_attard
07-01-2004, 06:33 PM
Paying extra to downgrade to 17" Wheels will really hurt - the 18's with tyres cost a packet! Might have to do it if I keep the car though.

Deon.

pr1mo
07-01-2004, 10:45 PM
Myeh well i got ripped with the purchase of those 18"s by a former member of these forums. it cost me $500 to downgrade from 18" MOMO's to 17" MOMO's including brand new tyres. so all up i spent 2K on wheels. not bad concidering ive been quotes as low as $2400 (and as high as $2800) for the 17"s and tyres i have now so i actually came out of the whole mess ahead!

cheers mike

Jun
11-01-2004, 05:52 PM
sorry guys! haven't been on the net lately, just came back from holidays.

Cool stuf I'll give big o's & tempe tyres a try.

Thanls Mike! I was also looking at the $850 wheel at the 4sale section. unfortunately I was out of town, it probably sold by now :(

Cosmo Dude
11-01-2004, 05:57 PM
I was also looking at the $850 wheel at the 4sale section. unfortunately I was out of town, it probably sold by now :(

PM ODD12C, you never know your luck.

KittyKatSmack
11-01-2004, 09:30 PM
What I want to know is what are you standard wheels that you will be getting rid of?????

Are they alloys?
What size are they?

Do they need a good home?

*blinks eyelashes madly and waves arms to indicate that I only have 14" alloys and NEED something bigger and if they are 15 or 16" alloys as standard, can I have them please?*

:D

pr1mo
12-01-2004, 01:37 AM
i think those $850 mags are still availible!

Jun
12-01-2004, 05:19 PM
What I want to know is what are you standard wheels that you will be getting rid of?????

Are they alloys?
What size are they?

Do they need a good home?

*blinks eyelashes madly and waves arms to indicate that I only have 14" alloys and NEED something bigger and if they are 15 or 16" alloys as standard, can I have them please?*


sorry man my standard wheels are 14" factory stocks with ugly hub caps. I dont recommend anyone having them. LOL!

Jun
12-01-2004, 05:27 PM
i think those $850 mags are still availible!
_________________
scruffy bastard


yeah I just contacted him and he's going to send me some pics cause 1 wheel is damage :(

BigMal
12-01-2004, 11:46 PM
Whatever you do go the Nitrogen in the tyres makes a nice difference.
For ages I thought my tyres were flat afterwards as have been used to
18"s with 40-42psi in them for years. To be honest I never noticed a diff
between 17 & 18 for ride but then again I dont think my ride could get
any worse with 3" lowered and having worn out shocks that have celebrated
a anniversary of being on my "Need to Fix" list.

Regards

Mal

MartyE
03-02-2004, 03:44 PM
Hey guys :D

Noticed this tread about wheels and thort I'd share a pic of my wheels.

http://users.bigpond.net.au/meadie/Astina.jpg

In the end I decided on ROH Fury 17 x 7's. A popular wheel but I haven't yet seen any other astina's with them fitted.

I went for the nitrogen in them and yeah it makes a great difference.

I also went for Silverstone FTZ tyres. They aren't as good as I expected but at the time that was the pick of the bunch.

Anyway I hope you guys like it and hope to hear some feedback. 8)

regards,

Martin

pr1mo
04-02-2004, 01:24 PM
dump it dump it dump it!

looks heaps good still :)

cheers mike

MartyE
04-02-2004, 02:21 PM
Hey

Yeah thanks. Its just had a bonnet fitted and resprayed due to a tree that fell down in high winds!!

And yeah got that as next thing to do. Just gotta save the cash to do it. Should make it look heaps better too.

Cheers, Martin

pr1mo
04-02-2004, 05:17 PM
great to see a ne tassie member! i think your the first from the apple isle....

how badly damaged is your old bonnet? do you still have it? any pics??

cheers mike

MartyE
05-02-2004, 07:17 AM
Hey Mike,

No the bonnet was a throw away job. Got a new one and spayed it up. Mazda charged me around $800 tho! And unpainted.

It had dents towards the front and a few big ones near the windscreen. Was very lucky that it never went thru with windscreen. Was damn close! Got some pics somewhere, I dig em up for ya!

Well there aren't all that many 323's of this kind down here. I quite often get people coming up to me in the street and asking me what it is!!!!

Another thing down here is its really hard to do things to your car. I went to enquire about lowering it at one of our suspension dealers. The guys said no its already lowered and it would not help if it was done. After reading about how some have done it here, I went and saw my mechanic, who was a friend of this suspension guy. After a phone call by the mechanic I was told to go back and he would price it!! Haven't been back of course.

But yeah the car is going well. Just want a stack of cash to do stuff to it so it'll fit in with some on here!

Cheers,

Martin

mutek
22-04-2004, 02:44 PM
deon_attard im pretty sure the reason that 18" tyres produce a harsher ride than the 17" is because there's less rubber between you and the ground when running 18"s. 18" rims use really low profile tyres -- should just go up and compare on a couple of cars running 17 and 18's.

o yer forgot to tie my point up. And due to the fact of less rubber you get the harsher ride :D

ciao