AstinaGT the shirt? [Archive]

dfvadr

23-01-2004, 07:08 PM

sounds like a good idea you realize to have an imbioded pattern done it can cost at least $80 for a small basic design an it goes up from there depending on size and design

once you have the first one done it remains on the computer so you can then print as many as you like at a much reduced price

lets say shirt $20

pattern $100

thats the first one then after that you can probly do them for about $30-$35 each

mrpayner

23-01-2004, 07:10 PM

Heh.. i spoke of this ages and ages ago... Some older topic that i posted in (http://www.astinagt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=120&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start =30)

I will head down to the embroidery shop on the weekend.. I might even get a prototype ready for the Feb 8th meet.

AP

Cosmo Dude

23-01-2004, 07:19 PM

I think Shirts and maybe caps for a start.

Boxer shorts??? ***will drop pants for membership***

It'd be good to see people showing their colours when their are more than one marque at an event

BigBoyLemonade

23-01-2004, 09:33 PM

Their are legal reason's for no merchandise at the moment.

Kitty and myself are in discussion at the moment on what to do

We will get back to you on that soon

Caps, T-shirts and jackets maybe

KittyKatSmack

24-01-2004, 12:24 AM

Have no fear fella's (and girls)

We will be trying to get something sorted for ya's soon enough......

But by all means keep the ideas coming!!!

AND

if anyone wants to be creative...... I want to do something fresh with the design graphic!

Do we have any budding artists or designers that are willing to throw around some ideas?

I am looking at something a bit classy, and it does cost money for the initial set up of embroidery work.
That said, embroidery on GOOD QUALITY shirts (not $20 shirts) means they last a lot longer, don't stretch or shrink or fade.
The first run will probably have a higher cost due to the set up costs, but any future runs will be cheaper.
I will be trying to get a job lot done with another run of Ausmicro shirts, but the discount will only apply to the shirt buy, and not the setup fee's.

But before any of this other stuff can happen, a new design is needed.

So, a call is going out to find something advertises the club, but makes it more UNIQUE and makes it STAND APART from all the rest!!

The name AstinaGT.com still stands, we want to promote the website and the forum, but we want to change it from looking like a basic Mazda based club, and we want it to look like something individual and something OUT OF THE ORDINARY.... something as beautiful and distinctive as each and every car is that you own....

So.....

Put your thinking caps on, get creative, and see what you can do to the ASTINAGT.COM logo to make it bigger and better than "zoom zoom"

:lol:

If you need to email me any graphics, send to kks@ausmicro.com
I can host good graphics, and the floor will be thrown open until mid year for any and all comers to come up with ideas.
A poll will decide the top 10, and from that Tony and I will decide the winner, who will get a free shirt!

The judges decision is final, and no correspondence will be entered into, LOL.

So c'mon everyone, bring out your best and show us what you've got!!!!

:shock:

you know what I mean!

:lol:

Cosmo Dude

24-01-2004, 08:22 AM

I'm guessing the setup cost would increase the more colours are involved, is their a limit. The design would need to be a little timeless as well due to the evolving nature of cars.

mrpayner

24-01-2004, 10:34 AM

It's not so much the colours but more how many stitches are involved.. so obviously the bigger the logo the greater the cost.

Personally I just wanted something that is stylised.. I'd be happy with a 7-9cm logo as a crest on the front of a good quality shirt. I'd be more inclined to get an interlock cotton polo shirt over the"normal" style polo as it looks a bit more professional and classy.

I have an acquantance in the embroidery industry.. I might ask if she can do us a favour..

AP

Chris

24-01-2004, 01:15 PM

Hey, this sounds good. Very interested in a shirt and cap.

I have one idea. why not have the astinagt.com logo and then have both model BA astinas either side of it and the sp20 in the middle with the astinagt.com going throught the middle of them. Just an idea and ill try to draw it up for you. But obviously just have an outline of the cars with as little detail as possible.

Chris

KittyKatSmack

24-01-2004, 06:16 PM

It's also the colours too.....

find out if you like Adam, but whether she can do us a favour or not, it would mean all the AstinaGT business would have to go through her, and I am keen to do all the business through the people that have looked after http://www.ausmicro.com

:D

KittyKatSmack

24-01-2004, 06:51 PM

JynX

25-01-2004, 02:02 PM

First shirt off the rack ladies and gentlemen....

http://www.kitty-ranch.net/kitty/astinagtcomshirt1.jpg

Well done to Chris!!!

One thing though, I want to change the font of the word Astina......

is a long winded reason why, but can everyone keep that in mind for future designs?

Avoid using anything that looks like it was on a Mazda!

Cheers and well done again Chris!!!

The reason for changing the font is due to Mazda having a trademark on that exact image and Tony doesnt feel like fighting law suits about it. They also have a trademark on the word "Astina" so ur screwed either way.

Somthing simple like the logo on the left breast and then across the shoulders on the back. White shirt with the std logo. Simple. Easy. Cheap.

Im not down with having pics of other peoples cars all over my ****.

Maybe have your licence plate on the breast instead of the logo.

mrpayner

25-01-2004, 03:42 PM

Mmkay.. I went to the embroidery place here in ballarat.. for a simple logo that's 7½cm wide and about 9-10mm high [like the one at the top of this page] you're looking at a digitaizing fee of roughly $44, then we've got it for life basically.. To get the logo on stuff you're looking at about $10 embroidery costs. I also got a couple of brochures on Shirts and hats. I'll bring these on the next Melb cruise [8th Feb] so the other guys can have a looksie too.

As with my contact she actually lives in my old home town. I can find out what software that she uses on her machines as I found out what program they use here in Ballarat. Going by a design that I saw on the desk when I was at the shop it looks to be the same program as it's apparently one of the best in the industry.

I do like Jim's idea of having the simple AstinaGT.com logo on the left breast then having a number plate on the right breast.. That was along the lines of what I was thinking. For the logo across the shoulder blades on the back of the shirt that would cost a fair bit of money me thinks.. It would certainly push a shirt into the $60-$80 mark.

Oh.. i thought I'd thrown this in here too.. i was mucking around with this ages ago and thought about it again with this whole shirt / cap thing..

http://www.amihotornot.com.au/album/photos/18162-2004125154740.jpg

AP

KittyKatSmack

26-01-2004, 12:27 AM

Keep some of those ideas flowing, but what we need to do is slightly change that font, and what I am after is maybe join all the letters together or something.....

Unfortunately I can't put the idea into electronic format atm, I don't have access to what I need to do it, but it won't take us long.

There are ways and means peoples.

Firstly though, we do not want to get into trouble with Mazda.
Secondly, we do not want to get Tony into any kind of trouble either.

So we must keep that in mind when thinking of our designs.

And I would prefer our nicks instead of our license plates personally........

Keep those brain cells ticking away, and we are bound to come up with something!

Cheers!

sik astina

26-01-2004, 12:42 AM

I like how the Syndicate shirts are layed out. they are very nice. and have the nicks at the front too, tony got yours to show?.. but i do like the number plate idea too. :D

KittyKatSmack

26-01-2004, 01:01 AM

I haven't seen a syndicate shirt... will hassle Tony about checking his out.

Thanks for the idea Mik!

:D

Aaron

26-01-2004, 01:02 PM

Don't forget we can use Cafepress or simialr to make some 'mockups' into relatiy pretyt easily....

Quality is better than the iron on stuff ;)

A.

Pernod

26-01-2004, 02:15 PM

I can also manually screen print 1 or 2 t-shirt mockups if thats any use (although all you will get is pics so I cant see how it would help?)

JynX

26-01-2004, 02:59 PM

old skool bowling shirt would be cool

CityEnd

26-01-2004, 06:04 PM

i'm down for a cap
but still undicided abt the shirt, have to see the final product

Critter

26-01-2004, 10:16 PM

I would prefer online nicks to number plates, makes people recogniseable.

I have trouble understanding how if we can use the logo that is the site I.D. then why can't we just use that on the shirt.

Is there no way of become a mazda Australia authorised club or something.

Another thought might be a Mazda official shirt that has Mazda on one breast, and AstinaGT.com on the other ???

arden

26-01-2004, 10:33 PM

this is my idea for the astinagt logo. (for a black shirt)
this could go on the front right of shirt or the back, centred on the top.
im workin on a picture which might go on the front or back of shirt.
http://www.refribus.com/logo.jpg

KittyKatSmack

26-01-2004, 10:40 PM

that is almost exactly what I have in mind, except I want to join the letters up in pairs, the bottom of the a with the bottom of the s and the bottom of the t with the bottom of the i and the bottom of the n with the a....

does anyone understand what I mean?

But beautiful work sab's!!!!!!!

So close now..........

:D

ABC

27-01-2004, 10:27 AM

Anyone ever thought of just asking Mazda nicely if we could use the font/image Astina thingy:?:

MrShadow

27-01-2004, 10:27 AM

I like, sabrelli, I like. I also like the idea of having our nicks on our shirts, that way people like me aren't embarressed by always having to ask "Who are you (again)?" or just trying to not use names at all!
I also like the idea of something better than your average $20 polo/t-shirt. I wouldn't mind paying up to $80 for a decent shirt (hell, I've got three mambo shirts that cost more than that, and they've lasted me ages. Worth the money in the long run).

KittyKatSmack

27-01-2004, 11:29 AM

Talking to Mazda is an option we want to try without saying to them

"BTW we have been using the name/font for ages already, hope you don't mind"

coz they might get a bit peeved at that!

And better quality is always good. The people that have done the ausmicro shirts have some very nice stuff, and by ordering the ausmicro shirts and the astinagt shirts, we might be able to save by bulk ordering!

Buying 50 or 100 shirts is MUCH cheaper than buying 20!!

It might knock $15-$20 off each shirt MAYBE!

I am trying not to give you guys too much in case it doesn't all come off. I don't want to give with one hand and take with another..... am no indian giver, LOL.

That said, if we can take advantage of bulk ordering in conjunction with ausmicro.com, why not take advantage of it? Everyone will win, not only astinagt.com but also ausmicro.com too! Everyone helping everyone will mean everyone gets a better deal.

As for the design, that is still a sore point.

Another option though, one not yet thrown out there, is to maybe not have astinagt.com as a name on the shirt?

We all use AGT as an abbreviation, well I do....
so why not the silhouettes and AGT and your nick?
if people want to ask what AGT is, you can give them a card and talk to them about the site. Verbal selling is always better, and your own enthusiasm for the site will speak volumes.

I am not saying change the name, I am saying it will get you the shirts quicker while we wait for Mazda maybe?

Just a thought...........

mrpayner

27-01-2004, 01:22 PM

Isn't there a "public" font available that is used in the Astina logo? I know that I've got a font on my computer called "SF Automation" which is used in the word Mazda.. surely there's a font that's similar or identical that we can use for Astina..

I've got something new myself.. i'll post it when i get home from work this arvo..

AP

CityEnd

27-01-2004, 03:00 PM

We all use AGT as an abbreviation, well I do....
so why not the silhouettes and AGT and your nick?

that comment gave me this idea, still pretty rough though

http://members.optusnet.com.au/cityend/agtlogo.gif

letters within the letters, or sharing a common bit if u get my drift.

takes a bit of getting usedto, the G looks like a C coz of the T

what do u all think? and it's not actually any font, it's a bit abstract.

Cosmo Dude

27-01-2004, 03:25 PM

Simple and effective (what a logo should be).
I agree with the G looking like a C and it would be interesting to see the T more symetrical (longer on the right). Good work!

Critter

27-01-2004, 03:36 PM

Would prefer Astina myself as the principal word, but that IS a bit 'exclusive' and we have Proteges here etc.....it's a tough call.

For me actually, Mazda makes our cars, so if the Astina logo is a problem, then can we not use Mazda shirts with the AGT "sub-logo" similar to CityEnd's idea on the other side?

That all said, I reckon sabrelli's idea rox.

Aaron

27-01-2004, 03:50 PM

I like the larger initials idea... below it in a simple arial style font whack "www.astinagt.com" and no worries ;)

arden

27-01-2004, 04:32 PM

or this kinda of font, i think i like this one better than my previous one
http://www.refribus.com/logo2.jpg

MrShadow

27-01-2004, 04:33 PM

I agree with Aaron, go the logo, then put the address under it in a plain font.

I also like the above, but not as much as the logo with the address.

Cosmo Dude

27-01-2004, 04:57 PM

After a flurry of PMs I will endevour to contact Mazda so we have a firm understanding of what (in their eyes) we can or can not do with the logo stuff. I will contact them this week and hopefully have an answer soon.

*tact*

*diplomacy*

I'll look 'em up also :lol:

arden

27-01-2004, 05:14 PM

the below can go right across the shirt
maybe someone can design a logo to put it before the astinagt.com

http://www.refribus.com/logob4.jpg

JynX

27-01-2004, 05:22 PM

the below can go right across the shirt
maybe someone can design a logo to put it before the astinagt.com

http://www.refribus.com/logob4.jpg

oooo member...

Cosmo Dude

27-01-2004, 05:28 PM

Do we have associate shirts for those who don't have Astinas :lol:

mrpayner

27-01-2004, 07:58 PM

This is what I was doing at lunch time when I was home..

http://www.amihotornot.com.au/album/photos/18162-2004127194441.jpg

OR

http://www.amihotornot.com.au/album/photos/18162-2004127195644.jpg

All I did was "skew" the word Astina in photoshop so it still "looks" like the original font but it appears more in italics.. It still retains the original feel to the logo.

We could even go so far as using the bigger logo on the left breast, and the smaller logo at the base of the sleeves on the outer edge.. It would certainly look the goods..

AP

Cosmo Dude

27-01-2004, 08:18 PM

I like the enthusiasm but a lot of what I've seen is re-inventing the wheel. The url will stay the same but the shirt logo may be the new face of astinagt.com
Emphasis on the new

KittyKatSmack

27-01-2004, 08:22 PM

doing well people!!!!!

keep the ideas coming!!!!!

very nice designs indeed!

:D

mrpayner

27-01-2004, 08:35 PM

I like the enthusiasm but a lot of what I've seen is re-inventing the wheel. The url will stay the same but the shirt logo may be the new face of astinagt.com
Emphasis on the new

Aawww... but I like the simplicity of the current logo.. :cry:

Heh.. the "potential" of this could be a good thing.. :wink:

http://www.amihotornot.com.au/album/photos/18162-2004127203558.jpg

AP

Cosmo Dude

27-01-2004, 08:46 PM

I've no issues with the current logo, and have had it on my phone since september. I like the AGT with the url as the underline, I like using the word member to show you are part of something, those are fantastic ideas, keep them coming.
Using pictures of the cars is good but what happens when Mazda update to the next model?

My comment was intended to open up to bigger and better ideas

sik astina

27-01-2004, 08:49 PM

u wanna send that to my phone adam :mrgreen:

KittyKatSmack

27-01-2004, 09:33 PM

ah but Rod, the next model isn't an Astina, which prompts what Critter said about the protege's.....

what about an outline of the current model you own around your nick?

a BA hardtop around Cosmo Dude

a BA hatch around Sik Astina and KittyKatSmack

an SP20 around Critter

just a basic outline like Adam did?

that way, as more models are added to the range, and members join with those models, they can be added?

Just an idea......

JynX

27-01-2004, 10:52 PM

loose the sihloutte (sp) idea :)

Nick on the front pocket, logo on the back. Bowling shirt style!

We would be styling doods.

ah but Rod, the next model isn't an Astina, which prompts what Critter said about the protege's.....

what about an outline of the current model you own around your nick?

a BA hardtop around Cosmo Dude

a BA hatch around Sik Astina and KittyKatSmack

an SP20 around Critter

just a basic outline like Adam did?

that way, as more models are added to the range, and members join with those models, they can be added?

Just an idea......

KittyKatSmack

27-01-2004, 11:10 PM

oh yes, a bowling shirt is JUST MY STYLE

:P :P

Kidding

Put up a poll as to the type of shirts

Then a poll as to where you want logo's n nicks

Narrow down the popular vote

Then we will all decide on what is the best design.

:D

kyra

29-01-2004, 12:28 PM

[quote="MrPayner"]This is what I was doing at lunch time when I was home..

http://www.amihotornot.com.au/album/photos/18162-2004127194441.jpg

I LOVE THIS DESIGN!!! but i'd prefer ASTINAGT in CAPS. awesome design man!!!

ALSO, POLO shirts!!! i don't want bowling style, but i'll take a couple of polo shirts... one black, one white? big ask!!

cheers,
Bill

kyra

29-01-2004, 12:30 PM

Dogo

29-01-2004, 01:31 PM

how abt the 3 astina outlines that we have on the cards ?

Rupewrecht

29-01-2004, 01:36 PM

4 :P

i dont want no hatch

but i do like the idea of the 4 different silhouettes. even without the nicknames

KittyKatSmack

29-01-2004, 01:43 PM

Well don't just talk about it Dan..... http://www.kitty-ranch.net/kitty/geek.gif

Draw it!!!!!

http://www.kitty-ranch.net/kitty/fewl.gif

http://www.kitty-ranch.net/kitty/halo.gif

KittyKatSmack

29-01-2004, 01:45 PM

http://www.kitty-ranch.net/kitty/smilielol.gif

Do we get the hardtop as a broken down version? Even in silhouette????

http://www.kitty-ranch.net/kitty/smilielol.gif http://www.kitty-ranch.net/kitty/smilielol.gif http://www.kitty-ranch.net/kitty/smilielol.gif

http://www.kitty-ranch.net/kitty/kissy.gif

Rupewrecht

29-01-2004, 01:50 PM

nah, you cant see a gearbox in a silhouette :P

and if i was on a computer that could do it, i would :| :roll:

KittyKatSmack

29-01-2004, 02:07 PM

pay that one!!! http://www.kitty-ranch.net/kitty/3gears.gif

not my fault a mac can't handle the job http://www.kitty-ranch.net/kitty/smashpc.gif

http://www.kitty-ranch.net/kitty/smilielol.gif

Rupewrecht

29-01-2004, 02:11 PM

hahah i'm actually using a PC at the moment :P hence why i cant

(and no it's not due to lack of PC literacy either) :P

platypus

03-02-2004, 11:29 PM

ok reading all these.... i'm thinking simplicity.... i have a ralliart t-shirt... using similar styling would be awesome!!!

sorry i have no camera atm... will try for ya all
shirt body is navy, sleeves (t-shirt) shoulder lappels, top section, and the collar is white... with navy piping on the sleeves

soo using this one.... i say mr payner has some schweeet stuff there -
use the astinaGT.com across the back

then on the left breast pocket use the AGT with astinagt.com underneath

supply shirts like that....
simple lettered embroidery (ie personalisation) can be gotten v. cheaply, like $8-$15, so if you don't want a name, you don't get....

unless names are cheaper when ordered in a batch of course!!!

mrpayner

27-02-2004, 09:36 PM

So Tina.. and Tony.. are we doing anyhting more with this?

If not I may use some of my designs for interested people.. I think I've got Bill as a customer if he still is interested.. :wink:

AP

KittyKatSmack

27-02-2004, 11:41 PM

Still waiting for the design, still waiting for the approval, still waiting for people to come up with something that everyone is happy with.....

We can't just have people tootling off and doing up shirts Adam, no matter how much we would like to.....

And no matter what we all want, it is up to daBossman......
we had someone getting in touch with Mazda for us too......

one he gives the go ahead, we can start getting quotes

we will also need indications of who is definately keen, what sizes, colours, and who is prepared to pay what prices and who is prepared to pay a deposit.

next question?

:wink:

kyra

28-02-2004, 01:59 PM

i'm keen adam, but waiting for approvals from the rest of the group.

Cosmo Dude

28-02-2004, 04:19 PM

That's right, I'll chase that up. :oops:
In the interum think about it this way.
We are the enthusiasts that buy their cars and parts and maintain them to a high level, we actually promote the product. Mazda would have cause to be concerned if the public had trouble distinguishing our little group from Mazda or if we represented ourselves as Mazda.
I had a search on the word astina and found cars :) washing machines apartment buildings… the list goes on so we would be rather safe using astina as part of the logo.

It would be good to have some ballpark figures on costs, I'd guess that a logo embroidered on one breast, your nic embroidered on the other and a large MEMBER embroidered onto the back of a bowling shirt wouldn't be cheap, but if it were a logo on the front and MEMBER on the back screen printed in only one or two colours onto a T-shirt that would be a lot cheaper. Many other variables so keep the ideas rolling, we can then put it to a poll and we will be styling :mrgreen:

KittyKatSmack

29-02-2004, 11:37 PM

Indeed, I haven't forgotten eveyone, I am in the middle of moving house, and I lose my ADSL tomoz :cry:

So I request a bit more patience please?

I haven't gone further yet for the reasons I outlined, and also it seemed pointless until after I have moved and gotten everything sorted out.

I want the shirts as much as you guys, honest!!!!!

Just a little longer.......

I will post a poll when we are closer ok????

Cheers everyone!