I_OWE_U_10SEC_ASTINA is my dream to make it possible 10sec astina

[I_OWE_U_10SEC_ASTINA]

hey guys thanks for hittin me up.
im owner of to mazdas 323 astina's
first one is 323 single cam 92 model astina
second one is 323 sp which is twin cam version. with extras

now i fell in love with my first astina none sp.
decided to buy sp version as its better version

it currently has blown headgasket... and body is str8 n clean...



NEED HELP ON MODS I CAN DO TO THIS SP BEAST
( NONE TURBO) AS I CANT DRIVE TURBO JUST YET TILL END OF 2011.

im wondering if u guys cud help me with wat work i should do to it. with part info and places in sydney to get my hands on em and mechanic shop specialist

[Clean_Cookie]

do you have $25000+? good luck non turbo without that cash.

btw IM PRETTY SURE ALL ENGINE INTERNAL MODS ARE ILLEGAL ON P PLATES ANYWAY.

[NaughtyGT]

Welcome.......10 sec non-turbo? ohhhhhh......outta cost you about $40k & be as illegal as you can possibly get & absolutely non-drivable on the road so, considering even a ZE won't get you anywhere near 12's without much much $$$$'s & mistakes, sorry to burst your bubble but it aint gonna happen dude ;)

You havn't joined here prior have you by any chance?

[Clean_Cookie]

Dropping it from a plane would be the best option for you.

[marcs_sp20]

Welcome to AGT, and good luck with your 10sec proposal ;)

[project.r.racing]

welcome.

10 sec car although not possible in a street driven astina. at least you have a goal to work towards. start with suspension and tyres/wheels.

[Ghoru]

didnt a member have 11 sec turbo bg?

[Mad Mat]

didnt a member have 11 sec turbo bg?

it was robbie and it was a 12 flat bg ;)

[Ghoru]

i knew someone had a descent one.
if you want a 10sec street legal car astina isnt for you.
you want about 180hp and handle like a go-kart then the astina is for you.
ask the boys here who do the motorkhanas.

[Rupewrecht]

Welcome to AGT.

Perhaps be a bit more realistic until you're off your Ps...but good on you for wanting to modify your car.

[Ghoru]

what can you do on your p plates? start there... maybe do some research as to what you want in the future and tart saving for it perhaps?

[bourbon]

and that was turbo'ed...non turbo a different story...if ya want a 10sec car chop the front off make all custom tubing frame and put in a bullet V8...

the best you will run on a N/A BG Astina would be about 13-14sec and that would be with a **** load of work

[Ghoru]

either that or go all back to the future on it...get it a psuh from the tilt train o something

[Kirks]

i can build you a KLDE copy of my race engine with about 180wKW.... but with a dry sump and MOTEC ecu... you would be looking at 13-14k just for engine, gbox and wiring inc ecu...

[Mad Mat]

hey i've seena klde in a bg too... the rear and drivers engine mounts line up. but i need to make custome ones 4 the gbox and front one...

[70NYD]

you can also get a stroker kit for a BP which will cost you 5K and will give you 190kw (was it?? or was it hp??)
yall should stop being so damn cynical all the time.. why tell the person to drop it from a plane.. thats just plane stupid
i mean the thread title is pretty farking stupid.. you cant POSSIBLY make the astina in to a 10sec car thats p plater friendly.. power/weight would make it illegal.. if you put a V8, then you cant drive it either..

[Buzz_LightYear]

smallblock v8 (which you still cant drive and which wouldn't be legal) with rwd conversion. or turbo 13b (which could be legal but you cant drive) and rwd conversion

[mkid]

geez 10sec's thats ummm ambitious
your gonna need a huge amout of money to get 10 secs N/A tuned
and you need a lot of money to get that turboed
but good on you for having a go at it

[chewyryce]

ah welcome. i guess if you start stripping your car it would probably shave off 1 second but then you have about 15 more seconds to shave off... 10 seconds is a bit hard for a non turbo unless you drop a v12 in it :P.

[phildough]

I personally would aim for a 15 second car, its more than fast enough for a everyday driver.
That is a lot more achievable than a 10 sec car.
I think the only way to get a 323 to do a 10 sec pass is have a top fueler tow it down the drag strip, which would be kind of funny to see.

[Ghoru]

i thinks it would be possible...wont be street legal and would cost a small fortune tho

[bourbon]

if you think about this, for a Forumla 1 car to be 1 second quicker on the track they have to spend 1 million dollars...for a every day car that isnt anywhere near that performance level you will need to spend about $1,000-$2,000 to shave off 1 sec, that would be on a turbo'ed car on a N/A to shave off 1 second you would need to spend $2,000-$4,000

[Mad Mat]

Y can't he run a sc????? It's still na then ;) get a bot an use b6t rods and use a poly on sc from the states. That will get u close ;)

[Rupewrecht]

LOL in what world is a supercharged car still NA?

[so fresh]

LOL in what world is a supercharged car still NA?

still not natural

[bourbon]

and a supercharger wont get him close to 10secs, if that was the case my mini would run 10secs...

[Mad Mat]

and a supercharger wont get him close to 10secs, if that was the case my mini would run 10secs...

But Nate... Ur mini is poo ;)

[chewyryce]

he could just stick the badges onto a 10 second car and call it a 323 :P

[NaughtyGT]

LOL in what world is a supercharged car still NA?

in Mat's world I guess haha :p

The 10 sec thing is same as chasing a particular hp output ie: "I want 400hp out of my Mazda". Too many variables to consider before you reacha hp goal. 300hp may produce some monster you can't drive around town that is nothing short than a pig. Unreliable, crap down low, whilst a 250hp streety may be one sweet road car that you trust to take any distance & get you home :cool:

Then there's issues to contend with such as increased engine heat; poor economy; brake, suspension upgrades needed to keep the thing safely on the road; stickier tyres;.......the list goes on.

I reckon anyone on their P's that needs more power than a stock 2.5L V6 MX6/626 or similar higher end performance 2.0L is asking for trouble. They are nippy, grunty lil' dudes with handling & braking to match their power ;) You can't speed around these days & get away with it fullstop!

[marcs_sp20]

welcome.

10 sec car although not possible in a street driven astina. at least you have a goal to work towards. start with suspension and tyres/wheels.

x2, make it stop & handle like on rails :D

If you're serious mate, I would look at this thread... (http://www.astinagt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17207)

Y can't he run a sc????? It's still na then ;) get a bot an use b6t rods and use a poly on sc from the states. That will get u close ;)

Its still classed a form on Forced Indcution, but yeah, I think enough people have burnt you for me to continue :p

[bourbon]

it is forced induction...theres no if buts or maybes about it

[Astro Boy]

dropping it from a plane would be the best option for you.
qft.

[Clean_Cookie]

qft.
hes clearly a troll... one post, no intro etc... suspiciously like rodger the dodger. generally i wouldnt say something that stupid to someone who had a semi realistic proposal...

[Brisbane_boy]

nothings impossible. Id oppt for a 13B-TT rota.

[Ghoru]

im waiting for the shameless plug trying to sell a "10" sec gtx or somesuch. supercharger is more or less a beltdriven forced induction

[Astro Boy]

generally i wouldnt say something that stupid to someone who had a semi realistic proposal...
QFT = Quoted For Truth!

I agree with you :)

[Clean_Cookie]

QFT = Quoted For Truth!

I agree with you :)
oh i thought it was a misstyped WTF lol. seeing as all the keys lined up...whoops. :o

[mcwilly]

anything is possible just gotta have the money to do it. who knows this guy might be loaded and whilling to throw everthing at it. there are 10 sec lasers with b6t and bpt. not street legal or street driven but they do 10s.

[mussing]

I have seen a 10 second 323- it was one of the older rwd models and was completely stripped with a 13bt in it. Called "Pig323" and owned by one of the mechanics who works at Mazbits at Granville. Still not an Astina though...