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Rupewrecht
10-02-2004, 03:51 PM
The series is only part of the rolling diameter. it combined with the width determines the rolling diameter. series is how tall the sidewall is in percentage compaired to the width.

Tyres are labeled www/hh/rr lls

Where www is the overall width of the tyre in mm

hh is the height of the side wall from the rim to the outermost point and is expressed as a ratio of the width (see twilightproteges post)

rr the total diamater of the rim in inches (some BMW use mm but they are rare and obvious), multipy by 25.4 to convert to mm

ll is the load rating, the higher the number the higher the load rating

s is the speed rating, a letter, the closer to 'Z' the higher the speed rating

So the diamater of the standard BA 1.8 185/65/14 is 65% of 185 = 120.25mm top and bottom of the rim = 240.5mm plus the 14" rim (355.6mm).
Total 596.1mm
BA alloy option 195/55/15 is 55% of 195 = 107.25mm top and bottom of the rim = 214.5mm plus the 15" rim (381mm).
Total 595.5mm

Use this to calculate your original diamater then you can make variations to plan

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

and calculate the offset you need here

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp


Or this one which does both:

http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp

Cosmo Dude
10-02-2004, 05:14 PM
Stage two, I've taken this from an American book about 20 years old but the information is sound (all be it in inches and MPH)

Tires Are “Gears” Too!
Having the latest hot-tip racing tire is nice — but not if its diameter fouls up your gear ratio. Can’t happen, huh? OK try this. You’ve been running the 5.50-9.20—14 tires on your 510 with a 4.11 rear gear. These have about 24.12- inch diameter at 24 PSI inflation. Get a gear/tire size computer wheel. This little circular slide rule calculator puts the whole thing in your pocket so you can impress your team mates and fellow racers with your knowledge of what’s happening. Set the tire diameter next to the gear ratio, then find 7,000 driveline RPM (same as engine RPM because this is measured in 4th gear, which is 1:1). Read the top speed (4th gear) of about 121 MPH.
Your ex-wife loses grasp of things one afternoon and write you an alimony check. You squander this new found fortune on a set of 10.45—14 tires with a shorter diameter (only 22.4 inches) than you had been running. Play the computer wheel game again and you’ll see that 7,000 RPM now gives 111 MPH. This might help you on a short track where you didn’t use much 4th gear — but if the next race features two long straightaways, you’ve got to figure out what to do. Change rear gears, twist the engine tighter, go back to a taller tire or just be content to finish somewhere in the pack with what you already have in the tire and gear departments? You might be better of leaving your new tires in their wrappers!

A 510 is the old Datsun 1600 '68-'73

DunkyMonkey
17-02-2004, 01:42 PM
okay i didn't understand that, but thats why your supose to keep the same rolling diameter!!!!! thanks for the sites tho, i need to see pricing for tyres too they are expensive

Cosmo Dude
17-02-2004, 02:02 PM
Tyres are what you pay for them, you can get cheap tyres that last a long time but they won't offer much in the way of grip, or you can buy Yokohama semi slicks (just road legal) which stick like you wouldn't believe but last 5000km if your lucky. Best people to quote you on tyre prices would be your local tyre shop, give 'em a call

ezin
17-02-2004, 08:16 PM
hahahaha! LMAO luv'd that explination! Nice work! U get to understand the same thing in grand turismo3 when setting all the gear ratio's! One race u luv it, the next u just keep watching the pack pull away!

Andy's SP20 Astina
04-04-2004, 12:02 AM
okay i didn't understand that, but thats why your supose to keep the same rolling diameter!!!!! thanks for the sites tho, i need to see pricing for tyres too they are expensive



Its mainly to keep your speedo reasonably accurate by fittng tyres of the same rolling diameter.

Cosmo Dude
06-04-2004, 04:35 PM
Wheel offset calculator (http://toy4two.home.mindspring.com/offset.html)
Wheel offset explained (http://www.usacomp.com/Offset.htm)
Hope this helps

Rupewrecht
07-07-2005, 09:00 PM
And a guide to Markings, Speed Ratings and Load Ratings

http://www.blackcircles.com/general/sidewall

Important when you've got a bloody BA with a ridiculously high load rating!

pr1mo
08-07-2005, 08:25 PM
hey its not that bad. integras and civics are 87

Ripper323
22-11-2005, 01:07 PM
When the sidewall height is indicated, ie 35, does it include the tyre bead in it's height? I ask this because my tyres are 215/35/18 and by the calculation I should have a sidewall height of 75mm, but my sidewalls are no where near that big. I think they would be lucky to be 50mm from the edge of the rim to the tread.

Rupewrecht
26-09-2006, 01:59 PM
Offsets and Stud Patterns:

BA Astina Hatch + Hardtop

I4 - 4x100 stud pattern, +45 offset
V6 - 5x114.3 stud pattern, +45 offset

Feel free to add BG and BJ, peoples

Ripper323
26-09-2006, 02:30 PM
BJ Astina (non SP20)

4x100 +45 offset

Rupewrecht
09-02-2007, 03:18 PM
Updated with an online offset calculator in the first post.

couchy
18-09-2007, 04:14 PM
will 18 x 8 wheels fit a hardtop if they're only 42 offset?
I know this is probably explained somewhere above but I'm not really mechanicly minded at all.
Cheers Couchy

project.r.racing
18-09-2007, 05:04 PM
thats what the offset calculater above is for, use it.

RedLineResident
18-09-2007, 05:18 PM
Offsets and Stud Patterns:

BA Astina Hatch + Hardtop

I4 - 4x100 stud pattern, +45 offset
V6 - 5x114.3 stud pattern, +45 offset

Feel free to add BG and BJ, peoples

+45 offset? Is offset tire wall. Ive been trying to work out the terminology, ive assumed things in the past but never been sure. If the BHA run a 45mm tirewall then ive F***ed up when getting new tires. But the ive always kind of known that.

Rupewrecht
18-09-2007, 08:00 PM
Offset is disatnce from the centre of the rim to the point where the hub bolts to the rim. Check out the link at the top for a diagram.

As for 8" wide rims and +42, you'd have to test fit them...but i reckon they'll rub on the struts!

pr1mo
18-09-2007, 08:32 PM
7" wide is as far you can go with the 45+ offset mine nearly hit the struts with this configuration

couchy
18-09-2007, 08:45 PM
would definitely rub i think after looking at the clearance i have on the 7" 17's i have now.
I did check the calculator above,,, and these wheels would be 11 mms closer to the strut and there isn't that much room now.
Would aftermarket struts or coilovers give more clearance?

Rupewrecht
18-09-2007, 09:04 PM
Depends how low you're running the coilovers - as the adjusting collars are level with the rim lip on mine, and i have about 8mm clearance with +37 rims.

Rupewrecht
29-10-2007, 01:38 PM
Added a new offset/wheel width/tyre size calculator i found - very cool!

http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp

barby
27-11-2007, 09:35 AM
i know this has been asked before but what is the offset for 03 sp20 thanks guys

Protege03
27-11-2007, 10:53 AM
http://www.astinagt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10400&highlight=sp20+offset

read that..

dfrench187
05-02-2009, 10:00 AM
I'm not real goot with offset tyre sizes etc. and can't really work out the calculator.

But i was thinking of putting 18"x8" Rims on my mrs '95 BA Astina Hatch. Is this possible? or do i have 2 have 18"x7.5"?

What tyre/rim/offset sizes do you guys reccomend?

phly
05-02-2009, 10:08 AM
I reckon u should stick to 18x7.5 if you have strut type shocks. I've got 18x7.5 with 215/35/18 tyres and theres barely any space between the wheel and the strut. Not sure what my offset is but i think its around 40mm.

Mooa42
19-03-2009, 03:40 PM
Offsets and Stud Patterns:

BA Astina Hatch + Hardtop

I4 - 4x100 stud pattern, +45 offset
V6 - 5x114.3 stud pattern, +45 offset

Feel free to add BG and BJ, peoples

To make the tyre calc work we really need to know the rim widths too.
Does anyone know standard BA V6 rim widths?
Even better does anyone know the distance from the mounting surface to the standard strut?
Or what other wheels fit? Skyline, etc etc

project.r.racing
19-03-2009, 03:44 PM
I4 - 14x5.5, 15x6
V6 - 16x6 (maybe 6.5)

or if you are unsure, go to your garage and have a look yourself

and the measurements you just asked for, dont be lazy, your car is in the garage, get the measuring tape out.

Rupewrecht
19-03-2009, 03:47 PM
I4 - 14x5.5, 15x6
V6 - 16x6 (maybe 7)

V6 = 16x6.5 IIRC.

Mooa42
19-03-2009, 03:55 PM
I4 - 14x5.5, 15x6
V6 - 16x6 (maybe 6.5)

or if you are unsure, go to your garage and have a look yourself

and the measurements you just asked for, dont be lazy, your car is in the garage, get the measuring tape out.

:) Not at home ATM I'm interstate, just bored looking for wheels while I wait for a plane. Did I see somewhere that you had an LSD?? If so what did you get/how much etc? (me being lazy again, I could search but ... well ... I'm lazy)

Thanks Rupewrecht

Mad Mat
09-04-2009, 07:35 AM
hey guys. i just stumbled across this. thought it might be a little handy ;)

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/283/1565.html

dwpny
30-04-2009, 08:06 PM
Hello, I'm sorry for being one of those morons who can't figure anything out regarding offset and all that stufff. Is it uncool to just follow the directions on the plate on my car that says what tyres can fit on a 14 inch rim and on a 15 inch rim? Or can you guys help me to get a wider tyre than a 195 60 R15? (Or is it 195/55/r15)

project.r.racing
30-04-2009, 08:11 PM
Hello, I'm sorry for being one of those morons who can't figure anything out regarding offset and all that stufff. Is it uncool to just follow the directions on the plate on my car that says what tyres can fit on a 14 inch rim and on a 15 inch rim? Or can you guys help me to get a wider tyre than a 195 60 R15? (Or is it 195/55/r15)re ask the question, and think about it before typing it first.

Cosmo Dude
30-04-2009, 08:35 PM
Legally you can increase wheel diameter by up to 1" and width by 0.5"
The V6 has factory 16"x6.5" so 17"x7" is about as big as you can legally go without an engineers report. Practically though 205 tires are what will fit between the guards if you don't want to do a lot of number crunching and chasing rims with perfect offsets.
BTW, it doesn't matter if you have an I4 or V6 the chassis is the same.

project.r.racing
30-04-2009, 08:50 PM
Legally you can increase wheel diameter by up to 1" and width by 0.5"actually in victoria - it is +15mm/-15mm overall diameter and +25mm max width.

so running 215/35R18 on a 18x7.5 rim would be biggest on a I4 Astina. +42mm to +45mm offset is the way to go.

frizky101
28-05-2009, 08:51 PM
sorrry but i have no idea how to use those calculator thingos..:(

could someone tell me what the specs would be for a BJ 98 model?

im wanting to get 18's but im worrried about scrubbing of the guards.

what would be the specs for 18's and 17's?

cheers guys

Putonyourshoes
29-05-2009, 03:20 PM
you could probably do 8 inch wide with an offset of about 45.. the tires will be more of an issue though. maybe someone else can help with those

marcs_sp20
29-05-2009, 04:56 PM
17"x7.5" rim, with 42-45 offset would be best...

If you an 8" wide rim, expect to have to lip the rear guards as they'll scrub ;)

Cheers
Marc

frizky101
29-05-2009, 09:02 PM
sweet, thanks mate.

so 18's are a no no im guessing?

marcs_sp20
29-05-2009, 09:05 PM
you can, but you might have problems with legalities...

70NYD
29-05-2009, 11:47 PM
you should be right 18s are sort of legal as you chassis comes with 16s standard for the sp20 am i not correct? or is it 15s.. eithr way 18 is max, well for me anyway, the ba v6 comes with 15s and the bloke at blowjobTmart said going from 15 stock 18 is largest or some thing.. if you do get 18s, 7.5 is a good width ;)

tacety
08-08-2009, 06:03 PM
could someone please tell me the stud pattern for a 91 bg non sp please im so desperate lol

so fresh
08-08-2009, 06:23 PM
could someone please tell me the stud pattern for a 91 bg non sp please im so desperate lol

4x100 (hope dats what your after)

Dutchy
25-09-2009, 01:03 PM
Hey Guys,

Just thought i would post up the specs i found for a BG. As i couldnt really see it plainly written out here. So just for reference:

BG Astina SP 1989-1994
Standard/OEM wheel:
14x5.5JJ OFFSET +45
with a 4x100 stud pattern
Standard tyres are listed as either: 175/65/14 or 185/60/14

Although i have got these specs off the SP astina i believe that they should be the same for the base model astina, shades and the 323 sedan.

Hope that helps someone in the future. :)

Cheers
Jeremy

S373N
07-07-2010, 05:55 PM
My new 2ndhand wheels I got today have same everything. Stud pattern, width etc.
The holes for studs are a tad smaller than the others so my tyre iron didn't fit so used socket wrench.
Anyways.. Driving along, steering wheel shaky as hell and getting a thuds every half second.

Any ideas on a cause???

marcs_sp20
07-07-2010, 06:01 PM
get a wheel alignment and tyres balanced, Also check your tie rod ends ;)

S373N
07-07-2010, 06:03 PM
They're All possibilites but I thought maybe if it was the rod ends I'd have some sort o problem by now already

S373N
07-07-2010, 07:10 PM
I've found the problem. Old spacers from the alloys were still there. Fit like a glove now. Obviously :p I'm a duffer

Duke
03-07-2011, 08:16 PM
Idea's

Thinking of going 15x7
+30 rear
+35 front

astina v6 (stock is around 45ish' yes?)

Anyone used similar specs? Rims would be made to order, so i can go anywhere between +20 to +40

Rupewrecht
03-07-2011, 08:25 PM
Yeah, stock is +45.

Mazdaspeed fitment was 16x7 +35 all round to give you an idea.

Duke
03-07-2011, 10:42 PM
Okay sooo

16x7 +45
16x8 +45

Fitment?

These are BBS RS... i kind of need them... FOR MY LIFE

Rupewrecht
03-07-2011, 11:00 PM
16x8 +45 isn't going to happen - you'll be rubbing struts. It'd have to be at least a +38 with an 8" rim, and even then you'll only have a few mm clearance.

Duke
03-07-2011, 11:18 PM
What about with coilovers? Would that help with strut clearence? I could always run a small spacer...

Rupewrecht
03-07-2011, 11:30 PM
BBS RS are not that uncommon, you know. :p Easier to just find a better fitment.

Coilovers would help, but not by much. And then if you're running them low, the collars will the close to the rim anyway which negates the extra few mm clearance.

Duke
03-07-2011, 11:56 PM
rupe if u can get me a set in 16x7 +35ish for 5 stud, im looking to spend about $1100.

Ive been looking for weeks, such a bitch to find in 5x114.3 <17"

Rupewrecht
04-07-2011, 09:50 AM
rupe if u can get me a set in 16x7 +35ish for 5 stud, im looking to spend about $1100.

Ive been looking for weeks, such a bitch to find in 5x114.3 <17"

You'll have a PM shortly

marcs_sp20
04-07-2011, 12:55 PM
Just an FYI, the rims-n-tires link doesnt show you whats the difference between 2 rim sizes no more, you have to pay for the privelege, bastards!

Rupewrecht
04-07-2011, 01:28 PM
Just an FYI, the rims-n-tires link doesnt show you whats the difference between 2 rim sizes no more, you have to pay for the privelege, bastards!

Only the clearance though, the rest still works.

project.r.racing
20-07-2011, 08:51 PM
Idea's

Thinking of going 15x7
+30 rear
+35 front

astina v6 (stock is around 45ish' yes?)

Anyone used similar specs? Rims would be made to order, so i can go anywhere between +20 to +40i just spotted this post.

i use 15x7 +35 for my track wheel/tyre combo.

mansonitefirefox
12-11-2011, 11:31 AM
Hey guys, long time reader, first time poster!

I just wanted to double check in case im being too simple about this.

I have a 97 Astina 1.8 with some ugly ass aftermarket rims on them at the moment from previous owner.

From what I have read I would be able to get ANY 17 inch x 7 inch, 4 stud 100mm rim and it would fit nicely on my car? Or is it all about the amount of offset on the rims so they will actually fit?

Then need to make sure i get tires with a low enough profile to ensure the total wheel size is the same and im all good to go?

Clean_Cookie
12-11-2011, 04:17 PM
37-45 offset should fit fine with 205/40/17 tyres. 215's would work too...

mansonitefirefox
12-11-2011, 06:45 PM
Currently i'm looking to get the following setup on monday from Bob Jane.

Maxxis MA-Z4S Victra 215/40R17 $169 x 4
RJR Quest 17x7 4x100 42 offset $199 x 4

anyone think of anything particularly wrong with that?

Clean_Cookie
12-11-2011, 07:00 PM
Those tyres are pretty good. I think I paid $200 a corner. Those rims should for too, but there's cheaper places than Bob Jane...

mansonitefirefox
12-11-2011, 11:47 PM
but there's cheaper places than Bob Jane...

Any suggestions?

Basically im looking for a cheap knock-off that is as close to an OZ Racing SUPERTURISMO GT (as far as i'm concerned the most beautiful thing that has ever been on the corners of any car)

Im in Perth WA and really dont wanna do anything online/shipped.

Clean_Cookie
13-11-2011, 06:21 AM
I'm afraid online is where its at... Considering you're in Perth, which always seems expensive.

mansonitefirefox
13-11-2011, 11:50 AM
does anyone know if a 97 can take a 17x7.5?

http://www.bobjane.com.au/wheelset-details/wheelsetID/731/idm/17/ispt/Wheels/isu/45.html?sid=b8743a30792a8bbe

Cosmo Dude
13-11-2011, 06:24 PM
does anyone know if a 97 can take a 17x7.5?

http://www.bobjane.com.au/wheelset-details/wheelsetID/731/idm/17/ispt/Wheels/isu/45.html?sid=b8743a30792a8bbe

Yes 17x7.5 will fit but you really need to know the offset (how much the wheel pokes in or out) too much -ve offset and the inner will hit the suspension too little -ve offset and you'll foul the guard.
Lots of stuff on this here you just have to search.

mansonitefirefox
15-11-2011, 09:17 PM
all done.

RJR Wolfrace 12 17x7 with 205/40 Maxxis rubbers

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/9650/img20111115180543.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/607/img20111115180543.jpg/)

Zenki
17-11-2011, 07:13 PM
Does anyone know if these mag wheels will fit my 2002 Protege BJ II

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/17-INCH-RIMS-MAGS-WHEELS-TYRES-MAZDA-3-SP23-SP25-MAZDA-6-SPORTS-LUXURY-UPGRADE-/250926975793?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a6c69cb31#ht_1250wt_1165

z100
17-11-2011, 07:38 PM
Does anyone know if these mag wheels will fit my 2002 Protege BJ II

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/17-INCH-RIMS-MAGS-WHEELS-TYRES-MAZDA-3-SP23-SP25-MAZDA-6-SPORTS-LUXURY-UPGRADE-/250926975793?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a6c69cb31#ht_1250wt_1165

Any standard protege will be four stud, these wheels are five stud. If you have an Sp20 they will fit, someone correct me if I'm wrong!

smurfy
30-01-2012, 03:45 PM
have no clue when it comes to all these numbers with wheels and tyres ahah

would 17x7.5 48+ with 205/40 tyres fit my sp20?

project.r.racing
30-01-2012, 03:52 PM
wheels yes, tyres most likely will have lower than required load rating.

smurfy
30-01-2012, 04:00 PM
tyres most likely will have lower than required load rating.

explainn :D

project.r.racing
30-01-2012, 04:16 PM
on the tyre placard, in your door jab, it will state that any tyres fitted must be equal to or over a certain load rating. 83/84/85 etc.

BA is 84/615KG, not sure on BJ, but placard will tell you.

most 205/40R17 tyres are 83, small percentage is 84.

no the side of the tyres, the letters should be 205/40ZR17 83 or 205/40R17 83W

the Z and the W are speed ratings, nothing to worry about.

but the 83/84/85 need to be equal or higher than on the placard.

phildough
30-01-2012, 04:21 PM
there is an extra number on tyres and it is the load index.
From memory the minimum we can use is 85 from memory.
A lot of tyre shops do not know anything about the load index and incorrectly fit tyres to cars.
If you have an accident and your tyres are below the load index rating your claim can be dismissed as your car should not have been on the road as it was illegal.
My friend just got a set of tyres, I get home check them and tell him to take his car back as they are not legal.
He took it back and had to call me to bring down proof that they knew nothing.
I made him return the tyres and get a full refund and go elsewhere as the tyre shop kept telling me I knew nothing and was wrong.
They sold him tyres rated at 82 and his car is 84 minimum.

Clean_Cookie
30-01-2012, 04:54 PM
ive got 83 rated ones on my car atm. yes they are illegal, but the difference between 83-84 was 15kg. so far so good I guess. they were $250 cheaper than an 84 rated set. another reason why I decided to buy 16" rims for my hatch, loads easier to get cheap rated tyres! :)

JDM323
30-01-2012, 05:21 PM
ive got 83 rated ones on my car atm. yes they are illegal, but the difference between 83-84 was 15kg. so far so good I guess. they were $250 cheaper than an 84 rated set. another reason why I decided to buy 16" rims for my hatch, loads easier to get cheap rated tyres! :)

not worth the risk, if you're in an accident that you didn't cause you can still be found "at fault" because you are now driving an unroadworthy vehicle, your tyres are the one thing nobody should skimp on.

i want everybody to still be here tomorrow

i worked in the industry doing brakes, suspension, wheel alignments and tyre fitting so i have seen some nice vehicles with s**t tyres and suspension.
way too scary, suspension, tyres, brakes, steering gear and alignment are the components that keep us in control when driving.
for each component we skimp on we reduce the amount of control for the driver.

my rant

phildough
30-01-2012, 05:26 PM
Ryan, remind me to tell you off next time I see you!!!

JDM323
30-01-2012, 05:32 PM
phil tell ryan off next time you see him =D

Clean_Cookie
25-07-2012, 07:58 PM
ok guys, ive used my fried brain tonight and come up with this (all on paper, didnt look at online calculators)

i have 7" wide +45 rims currently. I have 5mm play before stuff is too close to be safe (i.e. i can go 5mm closer to strut)
7' = 177.8mm approx, 0 offset would = 88.9mm
therefore 43.9mm of the rim is sticking out toward the guard while 133.8mm is toward the strut from the rotor.

so with 5mm extra room I can have a rim which will sit no further than 135mm past the rotor/center of wheel.

So, if someone wanted an 8' rim (203.2mm), 0 offset would see you 33.4mm away from the strut safety zone. = would fit, assuming guard work was done (it may not be possible to do so but at least the wheel would "fit".

for a more realistic approach I tried +35, which would not fit with my measurements (136.6mm into strut!) so a +30 would, leaving you 27.7mm further toward the guards than a 7" 45 as above. (71.6mm from rotor/center of rim)

the 5mm was with 215/45/16 fitted. maybe 205/195 would give more room and sit squarer. I have read 215 will happily fit on 8" wide rims, while people are fitting 155's onto them which is plain stupid.

can someone back this up with solid "ive got this setup and it worked"

project.r.racing
25-07-2012, 08:30 PM
8 inch wide +35 will fit.

my current rims 18x7.5 +42 (fitted stock setup)
XXx8 + 35 = 1mm extra inside space, add 13mm extra outwards.

i'm getting some 15x8 +36 soonish, they will fit, (inside 0mm diff, outside 12mm extra) and the outer lip will be flush with the guards. rear lip will need to be rolled

Clean_Cookie
25-07-2012, 08:36 PM
this is what I wanted to know :) thanks.


so an 8" +36 will be flush (or 101.6mm - 36mm = 65.6mm) therefore on a 7" id need a 20mm spacer on my +45 7" to sit flush?

project.r.racing
25-07-2012, 08:44 PM
i'd go a 25mm spacer and dial in about 2d15' camber on the front and 1d15' on the rear. (roughly)

personally i'd get the correct offset rims.

Rupewrecht
25-07-2012, 08:45 PM
I have 8" +38 and that's fine. Close, but fine.

Could easily go a +25 at the front due to tucking the top with camber.

Clean_Cookie
25-07-2012, 08:47 PM
max legal size = 18x7.5 +33 correct?

which will fit and be 5mm off flush = perfect!

edit: read below for more correct info

project.r.racing
25-07-2012, 08:49 PM
there is no max legel size for wheels in qld, it all has to do with the tyre. +15mm rolling diameter and +33% width. fit whatever wheel you wanna fit to that, as long as the top of the wheel+tyre is inside the guards/arches from above view.

15x8 +36 rims fitted with 225/45R15 tyres is legal with 2-3mm play space using 1d30' camber

could go a +25 rim, will need to add 1d45' camber to keep the top of the package inside the panelwork.

Clean_Cookie
25-07-2012, 08:52 PM
so any offset? surely not. I thought there was a 25mm limit on track increase?

project.r.racing
25-07-2012, 08:58 PM
yeah sorry, you do have the requirement of the track being +25mm max. so yes legally you can only go as low as a +33mm offset wheel.

19x10 is legal, as long i can find a tyre that fits the above requirements, (which i doubt).

Clean_Cookie
25-07-2012, 09:05 PM
DAN. go find me 16x8 +33 touring rims.

Rupewrecht
25-07-2012, 09:07 PM
DAN. go find me 16x8 +33 touring rims.

Do not exist. 15x6.5, 16x7 or 17x7 is it.

You should have bought those 16x8 +35 MS-0Fs i had.

Clean_Cookie
25-07-2012, 09:22 PM
i know hey. and even the white ones youve got coming are only 7". i just want a flush look legally. seems rather difficult.

Mad Mat
25-07-2012, 10:26 PM
8 inch wide +35 will fit.

my current rims 18x7.5 +42 (fitted stock setup)
XXx8 + 35 = 1mm extra inside space, add 13mm extra outwards.

i'm getting some 15x8 +36 soonish, they will fit, (inside 0mm diff, outside 12mm extra) and the outer lip will be flush with the guards. rear lip will need to be rolled

I have 17x7 with a 215 40 tire on my car with a 35 offset and I have about 3mm of room between coilovers and tire.. That's with camber bolts..

Rupewrecht
25-07-2012, 11:01 PM
i know hey. and even the white ones youve got coming are only 7". i just want a flush look legally. seems rather difficult.

Plenty of rims out there in 16x8 +25->+35...just not MS.

(BTW i was wrong - those 16x8 MS-01Fs were +40).

chewyryce
26-07-2012, 02:19 AM
i know hey. and even the white ones youve got coming are only 7". i just want a flush look legally. seems rather difficult.

your wheels are 5 stud no? you should get MS01S :D
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt316/punktru8/money043.jpg

Clean_Cookie
26-07-2012, 08:49 AM
Correct. I should have grabbed that set off Dan. So I wait until another set comes up I guess! I'll pump the guards anyway before I paint the car so there's no real rush but I was just curious as to what would fit.

chewyryce
26-07-2012, 02:11 PM
Correct. I should have grabbed that set off Dan. So I wait until another set comes up I guess! I'll pump the guards anyway before I paint the car so there's no real rush but I was just curious as to what would fit.

you can borrow mine to see how it looks when i get some rubber on it sometime soon. its 16x8 and 16x7 i THINK its +33... will have to check sometime this week

project.r.racing
26-07-2012, 02:13 PM
i just want a flush look legally. seems rather difficult.not really, just gotta be prepared to put some dollars into the right rims. plenty in japan that fit the bill.

Clean_Cookie
26-07-2012, 04:20 PM
correct. i had a browse on IM as you can use it virtually as you would ebay in english which is nice. a few options in the ideal rim specs. nothing took my fancy. is there a site with rims from some of the larger manufacturers with a "find me a rim in these specs or close to" search? i looked at rays but it was fairly light on details/options listed

himynameisbunny
19-09-2012, 06:16 AM
Hope do you guys think a set of 15x8 +25 would fit?

More specifically these:

http://www.stancewheels.com/content/media/50/images/DSC00566.JPG

Guessing a guard flare would be required...

Clean_Cookie
19-09-2012, 07:32 AM
8" +35 is the most you can go without major work. Stock is something like 6.5" +45...

If you care, the above is the max legal width too. I did do the calculations only a few weeks ago.

himynameisbunny
19-09-2012, 08:02 AM
8" +35 is the most you can go without major work. Stock is something like 6.5" +45...

If you care, the above is the max legal width too. I did do the calculations only a few weeks ago.

Damn - those Stance Mindset rims only come in the offset I listed :o

And a quick eBay search shows that you can have any decent 15x8 wheel you like - as long as it's +25 or less :eek:

Clean_Cookie
19-09-2012, 08:28 AM
Just check what the rta limits for track increase is in nsw, it may well be different!

Rupewrecht
19-09-2012, 09:51 AM
Damn - those Stance Mindset rims only come in the offset I listed :o

And a quick eBay search shows that you can have any decent 15x8 wheel you like - as long as it's +25 or less :eek:

Please, everyone makes a BBS copy that look like that :p

Really depends how much camber you've got. A +35 on a Hardtop is around idea for an 8" rim i reckon.

himynameisbunny
19-09-2012, 03:51 PM
Please, everyone makes a BBS copy that look like that :p

Really depends how much camber you've got. A +35 on a Hardtop is around idea for an 8" rim i reckon.

What about these? (http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m99786364) How much would they be landed if they went for, say 20,000JPY?
http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img329.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/8/6/3/9/pbyn88-img600x450-1346475054roe13x50419.jpg
http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img329.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/users/8/6/3/9/pbyn88-img600x450-1346475100lnsluq50592.jpg

Found 'em while browsing on my lunch break.

The auction says they're unknown but I've figured out that they're Work Nezart Mesh as per here (http://www.iputinwork.com/?p=6638) and here (http://www.downshiftaus.com/2010/rain-hail-or-shine/). 15x7 +35 PCD100.

These are +25 but you get the picture:

http://www.iputinwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/eg_nezart_800.jpg
http://a.d-cd.net/d9e63v/480.jpg

Rupewrecht
19-09-2012, 05:40 PM
What about these? (http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m99786364) 15x7 +35 PCD100.


Yeah, plenty of BAs have had the same specs. MS-01Rs are the same, and Proj.R has had a few sets on his car.

About $580 @ 15k, $665 @ 20k landed

MR 1JZ
31-01-2013, 11:21 AM
Hi there

I have just picked up a BJ 323 as a daily and it desperately needs some low and wide

Im thinking king low springs with 15x8 +20 wheels and 195/50/15 tyres all round

Ive got my own guard roller but I dont want to have to flare the guards, just lip them and maybe add a little bit more camber

Doable?

Mad Mat
31-01-2013, 11:28 AM
Hi there

I have just picked up a BJ 323 as a daily and it desperately needs some low and wide

Im thinking king low springs with 15x8 +20 wheels and 195/50/15 tyres all round

Ive got my own guard roller but I dont want to have to flare the guards, just lip them and maybe add a little bit more camber

Doable?

Sure is mate :)

Ill bee abit of camber but it will work :)

MR 1JZ
31-01-2013, 12:11 PM
Stellar cheers!

Any pics of such a setup around? Ive been searching for a few weeks now and cant find much

sikwitit
31-01-2013, 06:07 PM
i havnt seen any with that set up but here is one with 15X8 +40/35
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k61/Loud3/image-1.jpeg

MR 1JZ
31-01-2013, 06:21 PM
Hrmmmm... Gonna be tight then!

sikwitit
31-01-2013, 08:09 PM
he is on 205/40s with the 195 it will fit no problem

MR 1JZ
31-01-2013, 08:42 PM
I would think an 8 +40 would rub on the struts?

sikwitit
01-02-2013, 06:18 AM
He is coilover

sikwitit
01-02-2013, 06:19 AM
He is on coilovers

Noble323
29-07-2017, 01:49 PM
Okay

With the 01-03 SP20, I know a few have put CX7 wheels with 215/35-18.
I know the CX7 specs are: 7" wide with 50 offset.
With lowered springs (not coilovers) do they have problems, noise, knocks etc.... ?

Now the 2010ish Mazda6 wheels are also 18" and look abit similar to the CX7 (maybe better looking in my eyes) but are 7.5" wide and 60 offset would I have problems ? And with lowered springs not coilovers.

Because with the offset calculator the:
CX7 are 13mm more towards the strut/shocks and 13mm out towards the guards.

And

Mazda6 are 29mm more towards the strut/shocks and 9mm out towards the guards.

Just want to know if people have having problems with those wheels, I seen a lot with the CX7 but none with the Mazda6

Compare

CX7:
http://imgcache.clasificadosonline.com//PP/AutoAcc/2012/8/20/8202012123440AMkvh2mubj.jpg

Mazda6
https://8ca0aecfedc3337e65ff-35e45e0c6d33fb28fce1c2abb50b91ea.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.c om/364871/nengun-364871-00-mazda-mazda6_mazda_genuine_18_inch_wheels_set_of_4-00908871e9.jpg

Noble323
29-07-2017, 01:59 PM
^^^^^

Also with above message I wanna run 215/40-18 not 215/35-18 which I don't think it will matter to much.

Noble323
04-08-2017, 04:47 PM
Well I just found out the CX7 wheels are 7.5" width.
Funny because I read a few times that they were 7".

But brought a set of CX7 and added new 215/40-18 tyres.