Matty's BA 323 V6 hatch

[mattylagana]

Hi, guys names matt, im new here and may muck up this thread a little bit but hey if you don't try you wont know :), I recently purchased my 323 and here is a pic of it ....

[mattylagana]

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0224.jpg

http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0223.jpg

WOW they are BIG!!, OH and my poor neglected excel across the road, was my first car, not the most powerful car, but was grunty, and hey if you cant go fast with 70kw 700 isnt going to help you :)

[mattylagana]

When I inspected the car it had a few little scratches you cant see, but a few days later i started to get a funny smell when i turned the air on, turns out the car was leaking oil from the rocker cover, so bought some new gaskets and some sealant and apart it came :) with some help from my old boy *mechanic*...http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0252.jpg http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0251.jpg
and presto we replaced the gaskets and YAY!!, so far soo good :), oh and as you can see was very mucky in there :(, but we gave it a clean.

[smurfy]

nice and clean :)

where abouts in nsw you from?

[mattylagana]

Last night I was reading up on some small mods that may not help you burn a wrx, but it will put a smile on your face. I was reading up on what the hell that white box attached to my air intake is, and its a resenator and yada yada, So I ripped it out :)http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0261.jpg
weird looking thing huh?
The job was meant to be a very easy one...well turns out NOT if you have a air con and im just guessing but thats YOU IN THE V6, well that was the case for me anyway so had to unbolt some brackets and try really hard not to stuff these hoses up http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0260.jpg
its a very tight squeeze!
so i unbolted this pipe from the bottom of the air intake BOXhttp://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0263.jpg and got this weird stuff from dad, I'm not entirely sure what its original purpose is, but hey!! did exactly what i needed it for :)
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0264.jpg so I attached it to the pipe and then re-attached to the intake box http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0265.jpg and if you get under the front of your car there is this plastic cover that is around about near your gearbox and it has this perfect little rectangle hole in it that was perfect for putting the other end of the pipe into, so it's direct air!!, and then a peace of fly screen over the top just for safe measure, lol and yes may sound like a tight ass but hey it works :)

[mattylagana]

nice and clean :)

where abouts in nsw you from?

hey smurfy, nice to meet you dude, and thankxz for the nice comment, and im from wollongong :), you?

[mattylagana]

AAAANNNDDD NNOOWW Im bored, lol WHAT next peeps??, and suggestions, Please!

[Noble323]

Full exhaust ? Or catback ?
Air pod filter or aftermarket air filter pad instead ?
Lowering car ? Springs ? Coilovers ?
Wheels ?
Front & Rear Brace ?
Front lip/side skirts ?

Can go on and on, on basic mod's but depends waht you want or can afford ;)

What are you hoping for ?

.
.
.
.

[mattylagana]

sorry i just read your from sutherland shire, im from wollongong.

[mattylagana]

nice and clean :)

where abouts in nsw you from?

Full exhaust ? Or catback ?
Air pod filter or aftermarket air filter pad instead ?
Lowering car ? Springs ? Coilovers ?
Wheels ?
Front & Rear Brace ?
Front lip/side skirts ?

Can go on and on, on basic mod's but depends waht you want or can afford ;)

What are you hoping for ?

.
.
.
.

hmmm indeed, well I really want to lower it, I may have a set of whitelines coming my way very soon, as for exhaust being the kid I am lol, the first thing i did was cut of the muffler and put in straight pipe and a tip, just to get some sort of note from the exhaust cause it was SO soft.

as for a air filter went to supercheap and let me tell you not that cheap ay, 125 for a k&n pannel filter so Im going to save bits and peaces here and there till I really want it, after a week or two of having it without the muffler i decided to buy a cannon, so that should be here tomoz :) or the next day :(.

And at the risk of sounding like a complete noob, im not entirely sure what they do? lol...coilovers I mean.

[mattylagana]

scratch that( i may have some springs coming my way..) You have won!, when i opend my ebay account, so ill post a pic up for you guys, and then we will see how soon we can get them on!

[mattylagana]

hey noble, umm i don't know man just want it to look sexier, maybe a kit in the future, and would like a bit more go, I tried racing sly323 in his gf,s sp23 and from a stand still it spun all the way into second gear and if I had to call I winner I'd say it was him but not by heaps, and on the highway same story.
sly also said that his 4cyl and most should beat a Holden v6, well I tried my luck with a guy in a vt and me and the gf in my astina and well I kept up with him, but did not win at all lol, now I know it's not all about this but what is everyone else's experience?

[Clean_Cookie]

Umm, not to race on the street? Not to be a killjoy but if you wanna keep those red plates, then watch out...

[mattylagana]

Umm, not to race on the street? Not to be a killjoy but if you wanna keep those red plates, then watch out...

haha sound like my mother:eek:!, just kidding, cheers for the heads up, and yes they were on the street but i just want the power there for when i put my foot down not to race on the street, and does anyone know of where i could find a track near wollongong/sydney to go check out ?

[mattylagana]

UPDATE!!!!!, ITS HERE ITS HERE.....
NEW CANNON :)
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0269.jpg
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0274.jpg
CANT wait to get her fitted only $40 dollars..sounds goood :), the price I mean.

And for all of you slightly older guys and girls that may have usual opinion of, (ohh it will be terrible, and you will get sick of it) it has a removable silencer, not sure how efficient it is but hey, better then nothing
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0275.jpg
lol and the misses in the back haha, high darling :)

[mattylagana]

The new springs we where talking about, well you only live ounce and you never know for how long, so bought a set off ebay not the best picture but hey you may like to see them
oh and they are whitline springs which i here are not made anymore... oh well :) http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/andthesprings.png

[Wonka]

Umm, not to race on the street? Not to be a killjoy but if you wanna keep those red plates, then watch out...

road vs track statistics?

yeah. keep the racing on the track not on the roads.

[mattylagana]

if you mean like recorded lap times, I'd have no idea I've only had my car three weeks now lol. is that wat you ment?

[SLY 323]

Welcome, Welcome! Just for your everyones information, the "racing" done was done in a safe and mature manner on dead country roads, where we could hurt no one but ourselves.


Edit; Before someone goes jumping up and down, no, that is no excuse but it should put some people at ease

[mattylagana]

thankxz for clearing that up bud, ps ad me as a friend before I have to pay you a friendly vist haha

[mattylagana]

I was a bit strapped for cash these past few day, untill now :) now I'll see if the cannon can go on tomoz :D wooooo

[mattylagana]

Would like some opinions on the skirts that ssv in Sydney have here is the pics what do you think of them? http://ssv.com.au/productimages.php?prod=1227&img=1818
And does anyone have them fitted to there ba? Would love to see pics

[scott b]

Would like some opinions on the skirts that ssv in Sydney have here is the pics what do you think of them? http://ssv.com.au/productimages.php?prod=1227&img=1818
And does anyone have them fitted to there ba? Would love to see pics

on 7ONYD's car mate

[mattylagana]

on 7ONYD's car mate

Thaxz heaps man I'm having a look now :)

[mattylagana]

I've seen other astinas with this angry headlight look, and I LOVE it anyone know where I can read up on a step by step guide on how to achieve that???

[mikey_something]

Welcome, the edit post button is your friend, 4 posts in a row makes me queasy.
It looks a fairly clean example of the car. Good to see you've got a bit of maintenance know how around. As for the cannon, eh, whatever floats ur boat. If it Sounds great then $40 well spent.

And yep keep them races to the track cause we all know popo can spot a p plate from 2 k down the road.

Just noticed (and am envious of) the sunroof. Lucky.

[mattylagana]

Just noticed (and am envious of) the sunroof. Lucky.[/QUOTE]

I know I'm lucky, but if I can be quite ounest I didn't love this car before I went to see it, I only went to see it cause it had a sunroof and then I had a good look a it and it's quite a sxc car, the astina I mean (not just mine). I had a friend that owned one for years I used to just get in and out of it like it wasn't anything speacial, then again his was that green colour lol sorry if anyone has a green astina, it's just I like the darker colours and 7onyd's white is a sxc car.

[mattylagana]

So the muffler man says that "These days it doesn't matter if your cannon is dead quite, just having it mounted is illegal".... but hey you only live ounce(also is there any insight from anyone in nsw on this topic ??) pics follow

Getting it mounted
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0276.jpg

The poor old exhaust pipe :(
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0277.jpg

Fitted!!!
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0278.jpg

And here is a pic of it back on the ground..
http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h346/muzza1393/IMG_0279.jpg

So now we wait...Dam I hate this part, but the springs are on there way in the post.
so ounce the car being lowered becomes reality, then I guess most of you guys will agree rims will be needed asap :D

[project.r.racing]

Cannot believe the left the stock heat shield in. lol

[SLY 323]

Awesome man! Should sound good. Can't wait to see it. Should sound better than the chopped exhaust.

[mattylagana]

Cannot believe the left the stock heat shield in. lol

well I gather it's there for a reason so I thaught I'd just leave it, why have you taken yours off or somthing??

the cannon actually was just about to be touching the heat sheiks itself so we just bent it up a bit more.

[mattylagana]

Awesome man! Should sound good. Can't wait to see it. Should sound better than the chopped exhaust.

yep sure does man, and not too droney eaither it's preety soft actually, quite happy for $90 plus instalation.

[Clean_Cookie]

90? thought it only cost 40...

[mattylagana]

90? thought it only cost 40...

sorry my post mite of been misleading, $50 for cannon, $40 installed.

[project.r.racing]

carbon tax?

[mattylagana]

carbon tax?

lol haha, "what is the carbon tax realy"

[mattylagana]

so update people, still waiting on the springs to get here, and tomoz I'm goingti take off one rim at a time and give them a good clean, they have a bit if gunk in the corners of the rims, and may spray the calipers while the wheels are off :)

[Clean_Cookie]

LOL @ posts per day. a bit over-enthusiastic i think! this isnt facebook :P

[mattylagana]

LOL @ posts per day. a bit over-enthusiastic i think! this isnt facebook :P

I just love my car, and I thought I was on astina gt where everyone else is as enthusiastic as I am??

[project.r.racing]

They just forget they were like that once also.

Get rear sway bar next.

[Clean_Cookie]

Yeah sorry matty, tired and grumpy after a 60hr week! Strut braces also made a worthwhile addition for relatively low cost.

[mattylagana]

They just forget they were like that once also.

Get rear sway bar next.

is it much of a performance upgrade?, I was reading a few posts that said they havnt reckongnised the handeling benifits yet...

[mattylagana]

Yeah sorry matty, tired and grumpy after a 60hr week! Strut braces also made a worthwhile addition for relatively low cost.

no harm done mate, umm my car has the factory strut brace and when I asked the old boy about his opinion he said " it's not like your racing at the track, you will never need it" so I didn't go baring hunting for one

[project.r.racing]

is it much of a performance upgrade?, I was reading a few posts that said they havnt reckongnised the handeling benifits yet...it's the biggest/best handling upgrade. dunno where you been reading what you have. maybe it's just regular sunday driver that don't push their cars that haven't notice any different.

[Clean_Cookie]

It'll make it start to oversteer and allow you to go around corners heaps more aggressively. But it can also get you into trouble which is why they don't put them on stock, cause they figure people will oversteer and spin out. But worth the money! Forgot you have a v6! With strut brace already.

[mattylagana]

ahh ok guy I'll keep that in mind, though do you think the oversteer is needed for everyday driving ?

[project.r.racing]

ahh ok guy I'll keep that in mind, though do you think the oversteer is needed for everyday driving ?no. and none of the mods you currently have are needed for everyday driving either... i also think the oversteer aspect was exaggerrated a little earlier also. the BA astinas, (both I4 and V6) have massive front sway bars. you'd have to be doing some really poor driving and unsettling the car to find you can oversteer it after a 20mm rear swaybar is fitted.

[Rupewrecht]

you'd have to be doing some really poor driving and unsettling the car to find you can oversteer it after a 20mm rear swaybar is fitted.

Definitely.

[Clean_Cookie]

I'll just shut up now :p

[mattylagana]

no. and none of the mods you currently have are needed for everyday driving either... i also think the oversteer aspect was exaggerrated a little earlier also. the BA astinas, (both I4 and V6) have massive front sway bars. you'd have to be doing some really poor driving and unsettling the car to find you can oversteer it after a 20mm rear swaybar is fitted.


What mods lol I have a cannon and a custom intake other then that stock as a rock oh and springs soon.

[mikey_something]

What mods lol I have a cannon and a custom intake other then that stock as a rock oh and springs soon.

those mods.

[mattylagana]

Well I need those few things to keep me happy... How many of you guys actually use your car as a everyday driver?

[Clean_Cookie]

virtually all members who post regularly. id guess 90%.

[smurfy]

most members a quite young as 323's are becoming older and cheaper, most can only afford one car :P

[Duke]

^negatory, i have 12.

on another note, was this a factory colour?
When i was looking for my BA i came accross one of these, but wasnt convinced it was factory which lead me off (that and high km's)

[smurfy]

12 cars ?

i said most ;)

[Duke]

its okay i was not srs. ;)

[smurfy]

one day maybe ;)

[mikey_something]

Well I need those few things to keep me happy... How many of you guys actually use your car as a everyday driver?

The same reason I've done my exhaust. It makes me smile accelerating.
The same reason I've done the LED strip, it makes me smile seeing it reflected in other cars.

[mattylagana]

^negatory, i have 12.

on another note, was this a factory colour?
When i was looking for my BA i came accross one of these, but wasnt convinced it was factory which lead me off (that and high km's)

The colour is indigo blue and yes it's factory

[mattylagana]

The same reason I've done my exhaust. It makes me smile accelerating.
The same reason I've done the LED strip, it makes me smile seeing it reflected in other cars.

I wanted to do the led strips it's a awesome look, was it hard to do?

[mattylagana]

the spring just arrived :)

[mikey_something]

I wanted to do the led strips it's a awesome look, was it hard to do?

Depends.
You can do it the way Tony did (much better way) an take your headlights apart and put them in.
Or
You can do it my way, buy an $8 led strip set, use some double sided tape for non adhesive surfaces (i.e. Sticks to everything) an stick them on the underside of the headlights.

[mattylagana]

Is there a thread on led lights?

[Clean_Cookie]

look in tonys thread, my thread also has some photos. wired to parker lights. i used silicone to sick the led strips onto the top of the actual glass headlight. never melted or anything and ive had them on for ages. still goin too. i was originally going to buy flexible EL wire and run it around the edges of my bonnet so that it would glow but 1: it costs a fair bit and 2: AFAIK it wouldnt be legal... make sure the lights arent too BLUE as they are illegal on anything other than an emergency vehicle. no amber either (only for indicators and fog lights)...

[mattylagana]

err seems a bit fussy for me ay, would pay somone in wlongong area haha

[Clean_Cookie]

fussy? umm buy strips off ebay for less than $10. add silicone and stick to headlights. then strip off a bit of the insulation and splice onto parkers. tape up (add solder if you want to do a decent job) and test. if they arent working swap the wires around (as Diodes only pass current one way...-the D in LED if you didnt figure that out already!-)

[mikey_something]

fussy? umm buy strips off ebay for less than $10. add silicone and stick to headlights. then strip off a bit of the insulation and splice onto parkers. tape up (add solder if you want to do a decent job) and test. if they arent working swap the wires around (as Diodes only pass current one way...-the D in LED if you didnt figure that out already!-)

^this

It's very simple. If you just want them off the parking lights it's as simple as that.
You can pull the bulbs out of the Parking lights so u can poke the LED wires into the terminals to test before you start splicing insulation.
There's insulation splitters, maybe $15? I just used scissors and a razor blade and some patience. I didn't use solder just tape incase I get pulled over for them one day it'll be easy to rip them apart. Mine are slightly blue (as all "white" LEDs seem to be).

[mattylagana]

err pulled up for them? get fined

[mikey_something]

In theory any cop having a bad night could decide my lights are too blue for his liking.
There's pretty much something on every members car that could be fined if the cop was feeling like it.
Uncovered pods, lowering, big wheels, loud exhausts.
Welcome to car modifications.
You'll be hassled less by the cops if you sell your car and become an axe murderer.


EDIT: a fine would be at said cops discretion. a warning would be more likely for LED strips...

[mattylagana]

just reading your last post angers me ay lol, how is a covered pod any safer or more legal then an uncovered one?, lowering your car in a reasonable manner does nobody harm, and the exhaust being loud they havnt herd loud till they catch some idiot in a bombadore with his exhaust chopped after the manifold!

[mikey_something]

uncovered pod is something about the oiled filters COULD catch fire... there was a story about it all over the news some time ago with a "bunch of hoons". riiiiight :/ defect
lowering is all about ground clearance, i might be wrong but 110mm from the lowest point of the car? (this includes the exhaust, catches some people out) defect
and >90dB for exhaust is defect.
HIDs could probly be defected/fined too. >6000K and its asking for trouble. Blueish LEDs can be a fine or a warning. it just depends.

If you get pulled over, dont be an asshat.

Mate got pulled over for loud exhaust. She gave the cop a bit of lip. Before she knows it he's got the bonnet up and got her defected for:
uncovered pod, missing battery bracket, loose battery terminals, exhaust hanging too low, sideskirts too low, bald tyres, A-Pillar Gauges, and of course noise pollution from the exhaust.
If she kept her mouth shut, she may have gotten away with a simple defect fixable by a silencer. anyway, thats just how it works.

[mattylagana]

help!!!! so I tried to install my springs today and got the fornt ones in no porblem, the springs looked preety much the same but the whitelines where a bit bigger then the stock ones, then went to install the rear springs the stock springs had all even coils, and the whitelines had 3 really close coils and the all even, and again bigger then stock, when placed on the strut I had trouble getting the center nut of the shock into the center of the top coil ( if u understand good work :)) finaly I got the nut on and got it back into the car an bolted on, and now I have a nocking noise from that spring, I left the rear left spring stock beacause I ran out of daylight, I got out of the car and shoock the rear whiteline spring and I got a clunk noise as I pushed and pulled, my old boy says they must be for another car. does anyone have a picture of what whitelines should look like for my ba? or has anyone had this issue??

[marcs_sp20]

You sure the spring is in the seat? One of my rear springs had come away from the seat, causing it to knock.

[mattylagana]

You sure the spring is in the seat? One of my rear springs had come away from the seat, causing it to knock.

the old boy and I put it in there best we could before tightining the bolt so unless j took it off and had a look I'd say I'm 85% sure it is

[marcs_sp20]

If you have spring tensioners, put some tension on the springs and check both upper & lower rubber seats ;)

[mattylagana]

yep I used them to put the springs on the car and like I said I'm preety sure it was fine ay, but I really would like to see a picture of another whiteline set of springs fo my car

[Clean_Cookie]

Btw the different coil spacing is what's referred to as progressive rate springs. First bit compresses easily and is comfortable and the more its compressed, the harder it becomes providing a stiffer more precise feel.

[mattylagana]

Btw the different coil spacing is what's referred to as progressive rate springs. First bit compresses easily and is comfortable and the more its compressed, the harder it becomes providing a stiffer more precise feel.

At the risk of sounding like a complete dumbass, the bunched coils are ment to be at the top of the hat right? Like up in the boot ??

[project.r.racing]

no, the tightly wound section of the spring should be at the bottom.

[mattylagana]

haha lol well I turned the springs around and HEY they fit so that's all in and working now, all I'm after now is some 18" rims and wheels for the car anyone selling?

[Justin-sp20]

I've got a set of 18" chromies with a bit of gutter rash not sure if they would fit tho. Cant find the offset on the inside too

[mattylagana]

hi people, long time no post, so I found my car had a hidden oil leak, (****) so my guess was rocket cover gasket replaced the front one and still leaking so a few days ago replaced the other one an yep u guessed it still leaking. I was just wondering before I Jack it up an have a look anyone know of a common place toward the front of the motor (left hand side if u were looking at the winshield head one) ?

[SLY 323]

There are a couple of seals down that way I think? Are you sure it's an engine oil leak? Grab a torch, and go diving with your hands and see what you can feel and if there is any sign of there the oil leak begins. I'm not a big shot of knowledge on the v6 I'd probably look towards a lower intake manifold gasket for the leak (if it's definatly engine oil and not powersteer) as that seems to be common on SOME v6's. :)

[bradlz82]

mines just started doing the same thing and replaced the gasket seal and its doin the same thing again time for a can of petrol and throw a match in the window and run i think lol

[mattylagana]

thanxz sly, will check out the power steering next, also any chance the stock wires that were connected to my stock head unit had anything to do woth a/c switch and or demister switch?

[NaughtyGT]

if your not sure whether the oil is brown or red, you will be farting in the wind. I'd be confirming that first! Btw, P/S is on the opposite side of OP's leak problem.

You really need to give engine a good degrease. Dive for a while. Let it cool & then determine exactly what type of oil is leaking. Then, locate it......

[mattylagana]

Yep that's the plan, Thanxz guys, also today in attempt to fix my rear delisted and or a/c I failed and ruined my alarm some how, so time for a new one yay $$$$, oh well it needed to be done sly323 is installing it as we speak, and also received and installed xenon hid kit yesterday ( much better to drive at night)

[SLY 323]

Btw, P/S is on the opposite side
Powersteer pump is on the same side as the leak?

[mattylagana]

hey sly, is ur new ba the same colour as my baby? and your going to sell me the skirts if the colour is the same ay ? ;)

[Clean_Cookie]

If he even thinks of selling them I'd buy them, missed out twice before this lol.

[bradlz82]

hahah maby i should start taken bids on mine haha (sly) we could make some good money out of this oh andd @ matty those stock alarms **** up any way and u cant start the car so probly a good thing it broke and your gettn a new one !!!:):):):)

[NaughtyGT]

Powersteer pump is on the same side as the leak?

doh.....I thought OP meant left side of car (yes he did state 'left looking head on but I miss read that)

anyway matty, hope you find the drama leak ;)

also @ SLY,

how is that BF an 85'? is it an import? Thought the 85's still had the 1.5L SOHC? My BF's were 87' & 88'........just curious?

[SLY 323]

also @ SLY,

how is that BF an 85'? is it an import? Thought the 85's still had the 1.5L SOHC? My BF's were 87' & 88'........just curious?

Well my guess is it's an import. Mind you there's no import plate. It's 85' 1.6 efi sohc. All the features the car has would make it a ss just minus the turbo, but it's listed as a super deluxe! :)

[phildough]

how is that BF an 85'? is it an import? Thought the 85's still had the 1.5L SOHC? My BF's were 87' & 88'........just curious?

According to Redbook the BF series 1 was released in October 1985 in both 1.6 and 1.6i.
Its a shame we never got the 1.6 DOHC EFI with the first generation of VICS on it here, it was a great engine in its time(82KW). I had one in an 1987 Mazda Étude.

[Cosmo Dude]

According to Redbook the BF series 1 was released in October 1985 in both 1.6 and 1.6i.
Its a shame we never got the 1.6 DOHC EFI with the first generation of VICS on it here, it was a great engine in its time(82KW). I had one in an 1987 Mazda Étude.

In '87 I was driving 'round in an FA4 with a big block D5 :D

[NaughtyGT]

According to Redbook the BF series 1 was released in October 1985 in both 1.6 and 1.6i.
Its a shame we never got the 1.6 DOHC EFI with the first generation of VICS on it here, it was a great engine in its time(82KW). I had one in an 1987 Mazda Étude.

Well I never knew that. I had an 85' BD 1.5L auto Super Deluxe. Musta been the last of them I guess? Silver with sunroof, P/S, sunroof bit not the elect windows like the DOHC SS turbo. Also had a BD SS 1.5L 5 speed twin carbs that went like the clappers. Back then wanted the turbo one. Not the carb model but the EFI. Very rare. But then the BF B6T just was the ants pants.....;)

All good!

[phildough]

I owned a 1988 Mazda Familia GTAe for a while in NZ, it was a rather fun car.

[mattylagana]

thread bomb much lol

[SLY 323]

Haha sorry. Better show up tomorrow at my place. Some
Things electrical on your car that need fixing.

[mattylagana]

oh ha ha ha u just had to post it here didn't u smart ass, just for that I'm going to make u work overtime lol, u reckon we could go wash my car Jack it up n find this leak, I can't do it at mine cause I live on a hill lol

[mattylagana]

hey guys are these any good and worth getting for my car, I need new brakes?
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com.au/viewitem?itemId=360102147447&cmd=VIDESC&index=9&nav=SEARCH&nid=33174961293

[mattylagana]

bump!

[phildough]

If you need brakes contact greg at GSL rally sport, he will look after you.
I just got 4 slotted discs and pads off him for $408

[mattylagana]

thanxz will do, but initiall question any good ?

[phildough]

Im really impressed so far, they are way better than the old brakes and haven't fully bedded in yet.
DBA street series slotted rotors were the best I could find available for my car and as my car is stuck in traffic and doesn't get its brakes hot enough I went with QFM HPX pads.

[mattylagana]

the qfm hpx pads. as good as bendix? also are the Above brakes in link any good?

[phildough]

I was going to get RDA but the price quoted by GSL was so little extra to get the DBA discs.
As far as the pads go the QFM HPX pads are in a league above the Bendix pads I took off the car.

[project.r.racing]

the qfm hpx pads. as good as bendix? also are the Above brakes in link any good?qfm, lucas, rda etc are all better than bendix.
you ain't gonna win any braking competitions on the rdas, but for a street car, they are fine.
qfm depending on which one you get are dusty as all hell, but brake very well.
lucas = dust + very good braking.

[Demanius]

Beautiful car, I like the gunmetal colour, omg a sunroof, that's hot, :)

[mattylagana]

qfm, lucas, rda etc are all better than bendix.
you ain't gonna win any braking competitions on the rdas, but for a street car, they are fine.
qfm depending on which one you get are dusty as all hell, but brake very well.
lucas = dust + very good braking.


so do u think I should go ahead and get the above rda brakes for 65 dollars? lol

and cheers dim

[Demanius]

No personally I would go slotted DBA rotors, that's I am gonna do , and racing pads

I need a brake upgrade lol relatively urgent haha.

[mattylagana]

grrr I'm not asking an opinnion on rotors I'm planning on dba rotors but up above these posts is a link for front and rear rda brake pads for 65 dollars do u think they are worth getting

[Clean_Cookie]

The hpx pads are about the same price and they work.

[mattylagana]

The hpx pads are about the same price and they work.


so are u saying NO don't get rda? and that's also 65dollars for both front an rear sets 65 tottal.

[Demanius]

Sorry Matt , I didn't read fully the posts, maybe ferodo pads is the go, they r expensive , that's all I know, I don't know about others.

I mean I know ferodo pads work well, others not sure

[phildough]

I would go for the QFM HPX pads and if you are really hard on your brakes get teh A1RM pads

[Clean_Cookie]

He won't ever need a1rm. Get hpx next time there's a deal on.

[Demanius]

Thanks Phil , I will try the a1rms. I like stopping power.

Question: are DBA slotted and cross drilled discs (the gold ones) any good??

[phildough]

Just so you know the A1RM pads take a bit of warming up and when they are cold they wont be as good.
As far as Astinas go you can only get DBA street series rotors for them.
Im really happy with my new rotors and they look the goods too.

[mattylagana]

ok thanxz guys so dba slotted rotors and qfm hpx pads any ideas on I price I can expect from Greg

[phildough]

I just paid $408 for 4 slotted DBA discs and QFM HPX pads delivered, TC Racer just paid $414 for 4 x RDA discs and the more expensive A1RM pads.

[mikey_something]

Keep an eye on that part of the forums. They have fairly regular specials and are very good prices!

[mattylagana]

yep I'll be saving and waiting for sale lol, what's better rda or dba, for slotted rotors?

[Demanius]

Thanks Phil , I will try to customise them , I really need stopping now.
Ill look into it, as my current setup is just adequate , barely .

Good luck Matt with your project, all the boys will help whenever we can.

Cheers D.

[mattylagana]

yer thanxz heaps man, and thanks to all of you Gus for quick replys :)

[phildough]

yep I'll be saving and waiting for sale lol, what's better rda or dba, for slotted rotors?

DBA slotter rotor are by far the better choice.
They also look a hell of a lot better
Here are a few pics of my new brakes on my car, I know its a different car but should still look very similar

New Brakes on the car
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu15/phildough_photos/IMG_1447.jpg
Brakes before
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu15/phildough_photos/IMG_1416.jpg
after
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu15/phildough_photos/IMG_1418.jpg
The new discs before they were fitted
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu15/phildough_photos/IMG_1413.jpg

[Clean_Cookie]

After looking at phils and mine, we both agreed that the centres of the dba are way better and won't rust! Who knows which perform better, went for a drive in phils car and I think the brakes on mine are a touch better at the moment... But its early days, totally different cars and different tyres. I'd go remsa pads, I pad only a few dollars more than the hpx but have 650 degree temps and grip as well if not better than the hpx. But, they are dusty. They would be the next step up though. Greg mentioned something about ferraris or porshe use them, don't quote me on that.

[mattylagana]

i think ive decided dba slotted rotors and qfm hpx pads as for the dust hope rims look like shadow chrome lol :)

[Clean_Cookie]

Low dust on the hpx, which is one of their selling points. Now get onto Greg and see what he can do for.you!

[maztech]

Would like to have a drive of your car Ryan to compare to Phils car ,before I change brakes on mine.

[Clean_Cookie]

ok, but you really need to either find a set of dealer plates or find someone who will let you borrow them for a day...

[maztech]

Yep a plate would be easy to find.

[mattylagana]

ok so I rang up old mate Greg at GSL rally sport an qoute follows

dba slotted rotors: $99.00 each (front and rears)
and qfm hpx pads 79.00 for front set and 79.00 for rear set
so all up looking at $400 for rotors
and $160 for all round brakes
so time to start saving :$
but joke of the day I called auto barn and they quoted me $250 per rotor front and 158 per rear rotor lol I just laughed and didn't bother asking about brakes

[Rofltorque]

Hey guys do you know if these prices are similar for the SP20 / Laser SR2?

Do you think GSL would give me a good price if i mentioned the forum?

[Clean_Cookie]

not really the forum so much as generally a good (small) company with equally small prices. they are on the southside close to logan so pickup and a chat may even be an option (read another $15 cheaper!) the best thing imho is that I've always recieved the correct parts. radiator, clutches etc as well as brakes...

[Rofltorque]

Hmm, I work in Mansfield, i think it might be time for a lunchtime trip

[Clean_Cookie]

they are in an industrial sort of street, off beaudesert road, just before the hungry jacks...going away from the city.

[mattylagana]

I wish I could have a sort of gold coin donation involving my entire state, that way I could buy my upcoming mods
DBA slotted rotors
Qfm hpx brakes
Whiteline swaybar/ strutbrace
And 18" wheel and tyre pack from Tempe tyres

Also just a thought would there be any intrest in a stock v6 front strut brace and how much would you( interested person) be willing to pay

[Demanius]

Liking your project, wish i had a sunroof too :)

Keep at it buddy ;)

[mattylagana]

k so I installed my new short shifter yesterday, shifting is a little tougher then exspected but I'm happy with it, I also pitches my set of 4 sp23 shadow chrome wheels and now need tyres... can anyone get disacounted tyres? lol

[mikey_something]

Wanna post a pic of shifter? I'm interested.

[mattylagana]

in car pic? also I neglected to add, I'm having a clearence issue with the new gear stick onto the cat directly under it and beacause it's shorter and has lowered the gear rod that is also now scraping on cat flange with every movement

[mikey_something]

yeah in car

[mattylagana]

I'll do it when I'm home if I can figure out my photobucket account

[mattylagana]

purchased and installed my new ngk platinum irridium sparkys and top gun leads, and car is running smoother.

[mattylagana]

well sorry it took me so long mikey, but here is the pic you requested http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee440/mattylagana/SDC11906.jpg
and another angle http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee440/mattylagana/SDC11904.jpg
also my car got some new shoes and new rubber soles! http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/ee440/mattylagana/IMG_0350.jpg

[mattylagana]

I have a new addition to the car arriving Friday I hope, coilovers to replace the dodgy shocks :) yay!

[Ben]

Looking good... You need to armourall you dash but :P

[mattylagana]

Looking good... You need to armourall you dash but :P

indeed!, I was actually shopping in autobarns the other day to pick some up when the chick serving me told me not to buy armoral as its cheap an nasty and its more likely to ruin my dash more then help it, instead buy this....lets just say i didnt have that cash on me.

[Clean_Cookie]

Armour all is fine. It's the cheapest at k mart LOL.

[project.r.racing]

I have a new addition to the car arriving Friday I hope, coilovers to replace the dodgy shocks :) yay!what coilovers are you getting?

[mattylagana]

what coilovers are you getting?

Rupes old magic's:)

[Demanius]

well done matty, those coilovers are awesome, im dating a girl now so im putting the project on hold. thinking of the future (girl on my mind).....for the time being hahaha

[mattylagana]

just remember she may one day leave, but the car won't ;) haha

[Demanius]

just remember she may one day leave, but the car won't ;) haha


Mouhahaha true Matty, funny man I love it.

I need a sunroof I'm envious lol.. :)

[mattylagana]

alot of people like the sunroof:)

[mattylagana]

update: they got here the other day and my new coilovers ( new for me lol) are now In, pics to come ;)

[Demanius]

Nice, the girl left me well tried to play me, I'll stick with the car, ur right Matty haha :))

[Demanius]

Wait we're back on lol

[Clean_Cookie]

Wow. I'm not suprised if your eratic posting is anything like daily life.

[mattylagana]

Wow. I'm not suprised if your eratic posting is anything like daily life.

Lol I saw this an thought "what did I do" lol then realised after going back a page.

[mattylagana]

tonight I was driving my car in the rain, rear end slid out around a corner and smashed into the gutter killing my rear right rim, along with my front bumper, my questions are, can I use the 4 cyl parts ( tire arm rod, rotor, hub etc) to replace my parts, and I'm guessing the coilover on that wheel is ruined, is there a chance it can be rebuilt?

[phunkdust]

Believe the V6 is all different suspension (heavier duty) unfortunately

[Clean_Cookie]

Some parts fit but the hubs,rotors ate different obviously. Try find v6 gear :(

[project.r.racing]

you wont know the damage until you actully look at it. hopefully the wheel took the full brunt of the gutter and everything else is okay.

[mattylagana]

wheel as is is sitting bent with the bitten of the tire into the centre and the top out to the sky

[mattylagana]

rupe!! an input?

[project.r.racing]

wheel damage is not strut damage. no good asking for imput without giving info out. best to taske photos if you want some imput via the interweb. hopefully you get it sorted asap.

[Rupewrecht]

tonight I was driving my car in the rain, rear end slid out around a corner and smashed into the gutter killing my rear right rim, along with my front bumper, my questions are, can I use the 4 cyl parts ( tire arm rod, rotor, hub etc) to replace my parts, and I'm guessing the coilover on that wheel is ruined, is there a chance it can be rebuilt?

V6 suspension is mostly different, so you'll need to replace it with same.

The coilover can be rebuilt, but until you actually take it off and check if it's bent then there's no way to tell if it even needs it. And if the body of the coilover is bent, then it's useless.

Until you get it checked out, there's no way of knowing what is needed

rupe!! an input?

Patience! I'm not online all day :p

[mattylagana]

wheel damage is not strut damage. no good asking for imput without giving info out. best to taske photos if you want some imput via the interweb. hopefully you get it sorted asap.

update on issues: the front and rear stbaliser bars ( tier arm rods?) were both bent and little rod from swaybar to shock was bent, however it seems the swaybar just got pushed over to the rear left about an inch but didnt bend ?, also coilover looks ok as does bar from hub to front of rear door, hope my dodgy descriptions do the trick :)

[Cosmo Dude]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Mcpherson_strut.jpg

Red section: Steering knuckle or hub carrier
Blue section: Lower control arm or track control arm
Light blue section: Steering gear tie rod
Lower purple section: Radius rod
Upper purple Section: Coil spring
Yellow section: Tubular housing containing shock absorber or damper


Your lower control arm and radius rod are combined into one

[project.r.racing]

so you did this:-

http://www.astinagt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16578&highlight=gutter+60kph

the rear has alot of interchangable parts between V6 and I4 setups. somehow I thought it was the front for some reason. re-read your original post, and noticed rear on it.

[mattylagana]

thats exactly what I did.

[mattylagana]

Hey guys I'm now in need of a rear hub, there is no wrecker in Wollongong area that has a v6, can anyone help?

[Clean_Cookie]

Good luck. I paid way too much after searching for 2 months in Brisbane. Ironically maztech scored a set the week after for half the price. Good luck with the search!

[phildough]

Hey guys I'm now in need of a rear hub, there is no wrecker in Wollongong area that has a v6, can anyone help?

Demanius just sold his car and they are pulling his old engine out so there maybe all the parts you need there!

[mikey_something]

Hey guys I'm now in need of a rear hub, there is no wrecker in Wollongong area that has a v6, can anyone help?

Demanius just sold his car and they are pulling his old engine out so there maybe all the parts you need there!

Definitely contact Duke about this.
His plans seem to only involve the engine so you could be in luck

[mattylagana]

Hmm duke takes months to reply hahaha, anyone got his number lol

[mikey_something]

Hmm duke takes months to reply hahaha, anyone got his number lol

It's in his for sale thread "Parting V6"

[mattylagana]

just read this off a ford laser forum

kj 1.8L I4 laser rear brakes are the same as ba 2.0L V6 astina rear brakes. *do let annyone else tell you different.

is this true and if anyone knows does this mean I can use there hub on my v6 ? and also I'm leaning towards the idea that it wouldn't be because they don't hav abs ?

[Rupewrecht]

Yes, I4 and V6 rear calipers and mounts are the same. Rotors and hubs are different.

[Cosmo Dude]

The 1.8 hub is 4-stud so it would cost more in the end to modify them to fit the 5-stud. Some were ABS and most were not.

[mattylagana]

is there any other model say, 626-929etx that I could leach the hubs off and have them bolt straight onto the rear of my car?

[project.r.racing]

Just buy a new hub. They are like $80 new.

[Duke]

^this

[project.r.racing]

i checked ebay. 4 stud is $80. 5 stud is $195.

[mattylagana]

i checked ebay. 4 stud is $80. 5 stud is $195.

hmm 195 is punchin preety high numbers for a hub:( I baught my headers for that price... I've been quoted 125 for a second hand from wreckers in Sydney

[Clean_Cookie]

$200 is a cheap repair bill IMHO. Buy a new bearing while you're at it too.

[project.r.racing]

hmm 195 is punchin preety high numbers for a hub:( I baught my headers for that price... I've been quoted 125 for a second hand from wreckers in Sydneythen buy that one. for that cheap, i dunno what all the fuss is you're making.

[Rupewrecht]

V6 has an integral bearing from memory, hence the higher price.

[SLY 323]

V6 has an integral bearing from memory, hence the higher price.

Would that make the bearing harder or easier to replace?

[Rupewrecht]

Well you don't replace it - you just replace the whole hub.