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Demanius
17-10-2011, 11:05 AM
Hi Guys ,

Long Time Reader , Starting a New WorkLog was a good idea.

Fresh Start.


Basically I have a ADM Astina/Lantis hardtop V6 Manual.

Mods :

Now its basically a Lantis Type R , as i have both JDM Spec KFZE Type R V6 engine and finally the ECU to match it.

Revs to 7600 rpm now.

2.25 inch exhaust.

K and N High Flow Panel Filter

Pedders Shocks all round.

Pedders springs at the front

King Springs at the back.


A Nice Stereo System lol :D


More Aggressive Camshafts/Cams

Polished/ported or fixed the heads up...


The type r motor has been worked to the crazy lol
Well the top end at least lol


http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7931/12092010338.jpg

The Old Car Pic with angled sticker lol and ****ty cannon muffler

Demanius
20-10-2011, 09:11 PM
Update :


I Blew up my engine.....being a twat finally caught up to me.



Main Goal Now :


Putting a KL-ZE 2.5 V6 in it.


The kfze ecu will run it. not 100% from dan telling me, im just keen to run with it.


And not being a twat anymore.

Demanius
20-10-2011, 09:25 PM
Will see what happens with this set back.

Clean_Cookie
20-10-2011, 09:41 PM
How the hell did you blow it up!

phildough
20-10-2011, 10:38 PM
What did you do??
If you like I can check with my contacts in NZ for a KL-ZE + ECU for you if you like?

Demanius
21-10-2011, 06:25 AM
timing belt snapped , valves and heads are gone.

hey phildough, yes that would be great , for both.

NaughtyGT
21-10-2011, 07:08 AM
Demanius, a heads up. I wouldn't be using the DE ECU if you are going to the trouble of purchasing a genuine ZE. JDM ECU's are not hard to find or expensive either & you will need the MAF to suit as well. phildough has said he will be able to sort this too as NZ has these come up fairly often ;)

Just be aware the ZE isn't that spectacular bud. It has a different 'pronounced' torque curve due to the different size/shaped head ports, cams & inlet runners. Pulls noticeably hard from about 4-4500rpm to redline. I have owned both DE & ZE's and the hype is really just that. The DE's are quick off the mark but you don't get the torque of the ZE's engine in the upper rev range which it's designed for......

oh & change out the timing belt, water pump etc prior to installing the ZE too

Demanius
21-10-2011, 07:29 AM
Demanius, a heads up. I wouldn't be using the DE ECU if you are going to the trouble of purchasing a genuine ZE. JDM ECU's are not hard to find or expensive either & you will need the MAF to suit as well. phildough has said he will be able to sort this too as NZ has these come up fairly often ;)

Just be aware the ZE isn't that spectacular bud. It has a different 'pronounced' torque curve due to the different size/shaped head ports, cams & inlet runners. Pulls noticeably hard from about 4-4500rpm to redline. I have owned both DE & ZE's and the hype is really just that. The DE's are quick off the mark but you don't get the torque of the ZE's engine in the upper rev range which it's designed for......

oh & change out the timing belt, water pump etc prior to installing the ZE too


Yep thanks naughty. I agree , should be a decent step up from the 2.0 v6.

Thanks phildough.

phildough
21-10-2011, 09:45 AM
I have made the calls to NZ and due to the crazy exchange rate it works out a bit cheaper!! $1 AUD = $1.28 NZD
An engine and ECU is roughly $1250 NZD($969 $AU) shipping I guessed at $600 NZ (roughly AUD $465) as the KL is bigger and heavier than my FS
As the engine is worth less than $1000 you are dont have to pay import duties so you have to pay customs, brokers, shipping agents and quarantine which was about $350 for my engine.

Demanius
21-10-2011, 10:46 AM
Great Phil , so about 1434 dollars all up to sydney.

Is the engine curved or straight neck or doesnt really matter? how many kms?

phildough
21-10-2011, 12:25 PM
Just to get it square its $969 for the engine + $465 shipping + $350 customs/quarantine etc so closer to $1800 odd.
I was told it will most likely be out of a GE-GW Capella wagon or MX-6.
If you want more details I can call back for more info.

Demanius
21-10-2011, 12:36 PM
Yes , will i need the wiring loom for the astina?

how many kilometres ? With the KL36 ecu?

thanks alot for your help :)


edite - sorry I re-read, its with the ecu for 969 lol

Clean_Cookie
21-10-2011, 01:44 PM
Phil ship me over an engine at the same time Haha

phildough
21-10-2011, 01:53 PM
If your serious it will be cheaper the more engines we bring in

phildough
21-10-2011, 04:51 PM
Mileage on engines available is 50,000-120,000 km

phildough
21-10-2011, 07:10 PM
You wont get a wiring loom for an Astina with a KL-ZE, you will have to get the loom from the donor car and splice it into your existing harness, it will be a lot of fun but it is possible.

Cosmo Dude
21-10-2011, 08:08 PM
Be cautious.... not all JDM KLs are 149kw KL-ZE, there is a 130kw KL-G4

Clean_Cookie
21-10-2011, 08:11 PM
Did Mazda ever have any idea about what they were selling LOL

Demanius
22-10-2011, 12:52 AM
It's time to move on..... I appreciate the help if it was a straight swap I would do it, the eunos, lantis or whatever is dead to me now

maztech
22-10-2011, 01:58 AM
How much is the dead car worth to buy?

project.r.racing
22-10-2011, 09:02 AM
It's time to move on..... I appreciate the help if it was a straight swap I would do it, the eunos, lantis or whatever is dead to me nowgood.

Demanius
22-10-2011, 09:58 AM
How much is the dead car worth to buy?

How much are you offering?

For the whole car

maztech
22-10-2011, 01:53 PM
What year is it ,how many klms , condition of paint and interior?

Demanius
22-10-2011, 06:14 PM
1996 series 2. , Manual 230 000 kms. Paint not the best.

Demanius
23-10-2011, 10:03 PM
Reading interesting things on club 323f.com, the kfze wiring loom will work with the engine some of those pommies and a guy from holland have completed the transplant....

maztech
23-10-2011, 10:05 PM
Should be a very easy swap the 2 engines are alike , go for it and get the beast alive again.

Demanius
23-10-2011, 10:08 PM
Yep thanks man, I apologise for saying its dead to me.

And thanks to Rupewrecht and phildough for helping.

phildough
24-10-2011, 07:57 AM
I will call NZ again for you today and get more pricing and more details like KM engine model details etc for you.

Demanius
28-10-2011, 11:01 AM
Update :

In the process of getting an engine atm.

With one of my relatives.

mikey_something
28-10-2011, 12:00 PM
You like angles aye?
Car is taking a nose dive,
Astina sticker is off straight
Exhaust is angled up (this I like)

phildough
28-10-2011, 12:37 PM
Good luck getting it fixed.

Demanius
28-10-2011, 07:32 PM
Thanks. I have fixed the exhaust and the car doesnt nose dive anymore, they were old photos i didnt realise..

Demanius
31-10-2011, 02:01 PM
So boys its KL1A1 or KL 101 on the heads ? and KL31 camshafts ? to identify one ? a KLZE.

making sure???

phildough
31-10-2011, 03:33 PM
So boys its KL1A1 or KL 101 on the heads ? and KL31 camshafts ? to identify one ? a KLZE.

making sure???

I think a KL1A1 / kl101 is the KL-DE, im led to believe that the KL-ZE heads will be stamped KL311A1 or KL31101.
Im not 100% sure but the engine you have found is a KL-DE most likely from an Australian spec MX6.
Remember as your car is 1997 it MUST get an engine out of the same model range of cars or it must be newer so you cant use a MX6 motor unless its a 97.
Your best choice is an engine from a Mazda Capella Wagon.

Demanius
31-10-2011, 05:53 PM
dont worry, im adamant its KL31 or KL36 too.

im gonna get a new gearbox to match it. if it doesnt match it, well i care a lil about money to a point hahaha

I want this astina to fly lol

Clean_Cookie
31-10-2011, 07:02 PM
Buy it a set of wings then. There's faster ways than a 2:5ltr engine. Buy a skyline if you want fast, or a supra.

Demanius
31-10-2011, 07:06 PM
no thanks this is unique .. mid 14 quarter miles times is enough for me. edit - with mods and gone spare wheel etc.


plus ive always driven my mates 450 hp twinturbo supra . ive smoked alot of cars in that thing.

point is, i like this car, is a handler just needs more RESPONSE lol


the sound is the best part of a K series v6 anyway buddies ;)

Demanius
31-10-2011, 09:01 PM
Serious Update:

i havent checked the engine yet. hoping its KL31 or KL36. my relo will know soon for sure. I just hope its bolts up without changing the box.


And will see about wheels and fixing paint. Midnight blue sounds good.

And Lots of Pictures if all goes well.


Edit - and treating the car nicely and not screaming it all the time. Time for cruising now .

phildough
31-10-2011, 09:13 PM
Get on the MX6 web sites and learn how to spot the differences between the engines.
It took me 2 minutes of looking to find out the differences.
You will not find a KL-ZE in an australian delivered car.
The only way to get one is imported for you or out of a car that has been wrecked with one fitted, and you dont want that one as its thrashed.

Rupewrecht
31-10-2011, 09:54 PM
Your gearbox is the same as an MX6 one.

Demanius
01-11-2011, 03:05 PM
The engine didnt match the gearbox .

We are getting another 130 kilwatt 190 nm Type R Motor 2.0 litre V6

compared to 147 kilowatts and 225 nms, the difference to me is nothing compared to the hard yards in finding a good KLZe ecu new driveshafts etc plus the costs involved.

plus im happy with another R type Motor saving money , yes i do care but saving hehe.


Getting new sticker ASTINAGT.com saving for wheels.


in the end, rear wheel drive turbo in future. I like this car though will see.

Demanius
03-11-2011, 01:13 PM
Update :

Keeping the car.

hopefully my cousin is putting even more aggressive cams and camshafts.

And extractors.

bc coilovers in future. (or fixing the rear shocks)

those porsche style (well i like to think) 5 spoke wheels off rupe.

Mazda speed white racing seats 2 of them

Candy Apple Red paint job.


Ill get the money for it in future.

and LSD...off rupe.


AstinaGt all the way.

Clean_Cookie
03-11-2011, 04:51 PM
That'll be 15000 for a decently done job, but it'd look pretty awesome. You want touring or ms-01 rims, dunno how red and gold would look....

70NYD
03-11-2011, 05:48 PM
Red and gold (coppery gold) look superb together. Quite a few rx8club members have/had that combo

marcs_sp20
03-11-2011, 07:58 PM
Cant lose with bronze ;)

http://www.altspace.com/rx8/gas_motel3.jpg

Demanius
03-11-2011, 08:11 PM
oh my gosh guys im in heaven :)

thanks so much for helping me guys, i really appreciate it.

The 16 inch ones that rupewrecht has , with the bolts around it.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/9852/fsmsms01lm16x7gold.jpg



Update these ones. Hot

project.r.racing
03-11-2011, 10:55 PM
Gearbox didnt match? Wasnt a k series engine then.

70NYD
03-11-2011, 11:35 PM
Cant lose with bronze ;)

http://www.altspace.com/rx8/gas_motel3.jpg

Mmmm nom nom nom
Love it haha
On a side note I want a spoiler (duckbill)

Demanius
04-11-2011, 10:46 AM
Update = the type R motor or klze, either way gonna be ripped apart and looked into lol

Demanius
04-11-2011, 12:39 PM
Well, i was thinking a Dark Purple Colour and those MS-01 R ?? wheels . dont know lol

Demanius
05-11-2011, 07:39 PM
UPDATE!!!

GREAT NEWS, I DIDNT BLOW MY ENGINE AFTER ALL. Got new 3 valves fixed and cams , gates racing timing belt kit.

New driveshafts all round.

This is great news, as the engine was bought for 1900 dollars to 2000 dollars . Very low kilometre Type R 130 kilowatt KFZE motor. Im glad is 100 per cent again.

Im happy the car is back running again and is 100 % :))


Now for that astina GT sticker......rupe :P

Demanius
05-11-2011, 08:08 PM
Time for a Astina Gt cruise again lol

Rupewrecht
05-11-2011, 10:10 PM
Now for that astina GT sticker......rupe :P

You need to pay for it you know :rolleyes:

Demanius
05-11-2011, 10:17 PM
You need to pay for it you know :rolleyes:

roger that ;):D:D

Demanius
05-11-2011, 10:41 PM
DONE, I PAYED RUPE :))) 2 days should come.

Demanius
06-11-2011, 11:33 AM
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/8517/mazdaspeedbadges.jpg


Still got the badges from rupe, when i respray the car, dont really know what colour yet :D


Those wheels up top, i really want them, ill get the 900 bucks for them ;)


Edit = maybe i need 17 inches we will see :)

Demanius
09-11-2011, 05:09 PM
Finally driving it today, one word FAST! Lol

I'm relaxed now, time for gt cruise...

Demanius
09-11-2011, 05:14 PM
I'll post pics Of the car tonight, with new titanium finish, exhaust and the car lowered at the back

Demanius
09-11-2011, 06:55 PM
Hey Rupe, Project Racing or Marcs sp20 , i desperately need coilovers for my car.

do u guys know of any places in sydney that supply them.

BC racing coilovers... or K sport or D1? whatever they are called.

Rupe/Dan do u have any for sale?

Clean_Cookie
09-11-2011, 06:57 PM
Jics rupes old ones are for sale... Bc seem the new popular cheapest choice.

marcs_sp20
09-11-2011, 07:07 PM
Yeah as Ryan has said, Dan has a set of JIC's out of his hardtop, or you could go BC which are available through Just Jap in Sydney

Dan's JIC's
http://www.astinagt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18507

Rupewrecht
09-11-2011, 07:08 PM
Rupe/Dan do u have any for sale?

http://www.astinagt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18507

Demanius
10-11-2011, 01:52 AM
Was in a rush....2 photos before it started to rain.

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2898/deman01.jpg
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7417/deman02.jpg


PS. Thanks guys for the input for coilovers.



Update :

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1419/11082010309.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4080/16082010312.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9250/19082010313.jpg
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3481/19082010316.jpg



New Photos of my Le Mans Mazda Charge Team Jacket with badges :P

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1226/chargeb.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7016/charge2v.jpg

mattylagana
10-11-2011, 08:19 AM
I'm just wanna know what u did to pull145kw out of your engine!?

NaughtyGT
10-11-2011, 08:25 AM
I'm just wanna know what u did to pull145kw out of your engine!?

hmmmm......... I'm assuming this figure was from dyno as in, atw? Even KLZE's only put out 150fwkw so I'd like to know more myself. Anyway, don't wanna razzle the OP. He likes his stina :)

mattylagana
10-11-2011, 08:27 AM
hmmmm......... I'm assuming this figure was from dyno as in, atw? Even KLZE's only put out 150fwkw so I'd like to know more myself. Anyway, don't wanna razzle the OP. He likes his stina :)

so his is a klze(2.5ltr) n mine is a (kfze) 2.0? is that rite, also could I install a type r ecu in my v6 ?

NaughtyGT
10-11-2011, 08:29 AM
so his is a klze(2.5ltr) n mine is a (kfze) 2.0? is that rite

no, his sig states it's a 2.0L :)

also could I install a type r ecu in my v6?

ECU's are generally suited to the engine ie: cams, head ports etc. You can't always get away with swapping in other ECU's. You could try it with a dynotune but it is an expensive exercise if it doesn't work?

mattylagana
10-11-2011, 08:34 AM
I was hopeing is would be plug n play :(

NaughtyGT
10-11-2011, 08:42 AM
I was hopeing is would be plug n play :(

May be better flashing your ECU but you really only benefit if you have the goods to perform. Put simply, every ECU is manufactured for a specific powertrain with economy & performance in mind. Go changing this willy nilly & you ask for probs. Economy goes out the window, power all over the shop......

This is more difficult with NA applications. With boosting, you have the turbo do the big time work & the engine follows. The aim of course on upgrading an ECU on a forced induction car is simply to increase power/efficiency. The tune ensures reliability. You have the goods so, sky's the limit (as long as running gear can keep up :))

A better example matty is with the Merc. Sure, engine can take a pounding but not necessarily the drivechain......engine (650hp), trans (400hp), diff (280hp). See the weak link straight away? This is what you have to consider even with your lil' beasty! Your box will have a limit just as the rest of the drivechain parts.......

mattylagana
10-11-2011, 08:46 AM
demanius@ so what have u done to ur car to make the ecu worth having ?

Rupewrecht
10-11-2011, 08:52 AM
demanius@ so what have u done to ur car to make the ecu worth having ?

He has the KF-ZE - the JDM 2.0 130kw version of the KF-DE we get here.

Demanius
10-11-2011, 08:54 AM
EDIT = HI Matey thanks for the post, and thanks rupe im a slow typer lol



The engine is a 130 kilowatt engine stock flywheel LANTIS TYPE R KF-ZE 2.0 V6. This engine is Japanese Spec in the Lantis/Astina.

With the matching KF49?? or something Jap Spec ecu its revs 7600 to 7700rpm roughly but i dont rev it that hard running it in again.

The ECU was from a Lantis type R.


Im pumping with the even more aggressive camshafts, ecu , exhaust etc around 150 kilowatts at the engine/flywheel.

NaughtyGT
10-11-2011, 09:02 AM
The engine is a 130 kilowatt engine stock flywheel LANTIS TYPE R KF-ZE 2.0 V6

Demanius, that isn't bad power from a 2L! Like alot have been saying, be happy with this power train! To gain say 10-20 more fwkw's just aint worth the hassle nor expense. That type R is OK ;)

mattylagana
10-11-2011, 09:13 AM
so I'm sorry to be a mad noob, but I thaught my car was a kfze? what is mine then
ps: now I have engine envy

Demanius
10-11-2011, 09:14 AM
Demanius, that isn't bad power from a 2L! Like alot have been saying, be happy with this power train! To gain say 10-20 more fwkw's just aint worth the hassle nor expense. That type R is OK ;)


Thanks Naughty, love your work :D

Edit - you are right buddy , no more mods to the drivetrain im very happy with it now :)

Rupewrecht
10-11-2011, 09:16 AM
i thaught my car was a kfze? What is mine then

The KF-DE

mattylagana
10-11-2011, 09:19 AM
The KF-DE

ok thanxz for clearing that up fellas :) kfde 2.0 v6

project.r.racing
10-11-2011, 09:56 AM
So the 145kW is just a ramdon figure pulled out of nowhere? Has the car actually seen a dyno?

Demanius
10-11-2011, 01:08 PM
I will dyno the car soon at croydon racing in Sydney I'm confident it would be a good result, I know it's rude to post claims but the car feels really good now.

I will post the results here no matter the result.

Will see for sure fellas. Cheers

Demanius
12-11-2011, 03:09 AM
Update :

Future Upgrades I ' m going to get eventually = Extractors , I still need to upgrade them lol

Cold Air Induction = with K and N pod filter

Demanius
12-11-2011, 02:22 PM
Update = Had a look again at the cold air intake system already. Its an enlarged version of the KF-DE stock one.

I remember i had to special order a custom K and N panel filter for it, took a week to come.

Point is its awesome , and its got a nice note to it. I would be wasting money on a Pod for probably a 1 hp improvement if that.

Demanius
13-11-2011, 02:09 AM
Revelation :

I am in absolute shock at how fast my lantis is, i think my cousin worked the whole (shizzle) engine lol

Well i think the bottom end is still stock, shizzle i dont know anymore lol :eek::D


PS. who cares it goes and that is good.


Time to chill out and relax, Last thing i need is police on my buttocks lol.

phildough
13-11-2011, 02:15 AM
Find out what your cousin did and let us know.

Demanius
13-11-2011, 02:26 AM
Hey Phil :

From what i know so far :

1) 3 Valves were replaced. (possibly got 6 lighter/stronger valve springs )

2) The Heads were shaved, Ported and Polished.

3) The Camshafts (both were tampered with to advance the timing )

3a ) Possibly might have gotten both camshafts replaced with racing/aftermarket ones

4) Cam gears might have been replaced with aftermarket ones.

Demanius
13-11-2011, 03:28 AM
just the top part of motor worked , cams and camshafts adjusted .

New driveshafts.

Heads upgraded.

Update :

He wouldnt give away is secret lol.

I.E. What parts used for the upgraded cam gears and camshafts, Springs.

Demanius
13-11-2011, 12:11 PM
NEW PHOTOS , SHOT THEM TODAY IN MY GARAGE :)

What you guys think of the suspension so far? I havent washed the car (bad me lol )

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6268/img0216up.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/img0216up.jpg/)
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http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8308/img0211zz.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/img0211zz.jpg/)
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4057/img0210lh.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/696/img0210lh.jpg/)
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1173/img0209xq.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/img0209xq.jpg/)

mattylagana
13-11-2011, 10:15 PM
how much will he want if I bring him my car lol ??

Demanius
15-11-2011, 10:50 AM
Haha thanks Matty.

Yeh I dont really care what work was done to it, not 100% sure . Who cares, I like fast and this is fast........for a astina.

100% mechanical as well, done.

Happy to be driving again.

mattylagana
15-11-2011, 10:56 AM
Haha thanks Matty.

Yeh I dont really care what work was done to it, not 100% sure . Who cares, I like fast and this is fast........for a astina.

100% mechanical as well, done.

Happy to be driving again.


I won't care eaither, he can do mine and I promise I won't ask what was done lol

Demanius
16-11-2011, 06:47 PM
Can someone say KLZE. Mouhahahahaha.

NaughtyGT
16-11-2011, 06:53 PM
:confused:

mattylagana
16-11-2011, 09:05 PM
I could but you wouldn't hear me anyway :p

Demanius
17-11-2011, 08:01 AM
I could but you wouldn't hear me anyway :p


True. Yes I have a KLZE with KFZE Type R Head/Manifold on Top.

It was Port and Polished to match the Engine.


PS. I did blow up my other engine........ The Timing Belt snapping was the final straw.

-dc-
17-11-2011, 04:02 PM
So how much power does it make now? must be up to almost 200kw atw now with all those mods if it was 145kw before..

phildough
17-11-2011, 04:18 PM
How did you get a KL-ZE in such a short time and where from???
I was told the last KL-ZE that easily fitted into the BA astina was last made in 1998.
Are you sure is not a KL-DE as what you are most likely have and from the descriptions you gave us earlier you were looking at one.
If you have a KL-ZE and are not using the correct ECU there is no way you could be getting 145 KW.
BTW with my 129 KW engine im only getting around 92KW ATW. And thats with the right ECU!

Demanius
17-11-2011, 08:09 PM
Whatever DC, u can look for me in the streets ........

just don't hit a wall lol

Demanius
17-11-2011, 08:12 PM
The magic of family brother .....

mikey_something
17-11-2011, 10:35 PM
Dude, you're a bit erratic. Calm your farm.

-dc-
18-11-2011, 07:07 AM
Whatever DC, u can look for me in the streets ........

just don't hit a wall lol

ok.. generally I dont drive towards walls anyhow..

put your money where your mouth is and get it dynod to back up your claims, it will quieten all the doubters

its just funny how things might have been done but nothing is confirmed.

Demanius
18-11-2011, 08:29 AM
I told my cousin to put a klze in.

He did, I'm cool..... I will get it dynoed at croydon racing

Demanius
18-11-2011, 08:30 AM
I "asked" him politely to put one in.

So will see the dyno results

project.r.racing
18-11-2011, 08:40 AM
what he is putting a dyno in the car?

Demanius
18-11-2011, 09:01 AM
No project , I mean I asked him to put that engine in.


I'm going to croydon racing , to dyno the car.

I'm chilled, will see the power results.

Demanius
18-11-2011, 10:23 AM
Why are some of you guys smart arses?

Can you guys just believe me and be happy?

Im going to DYNO the **** box soon.....


FFS.......

project.r.racing
18-11-2011, 10:29 AM
You had your say 1hr22mins ago. Why keep going with it? Don't keep resposting for attention.

NaughtyGT
18-11-2011, 10:34 AM
Why are some of you guys smart arses?

Can you guys just believe me and be happy?

Im going to DYNO the **** box soon.....


FFS.......

Demanius, prolly because you are carrying on like a chook with it's head cut off!

It's OK to be excited & yes the V6's are cool but, when you change your story like the wind & confuse other members who are trying to take you seriously ie: engines, & come the "stealth" with everyone, it pisses people off you see? .....

It's OK to be different. Hey it's cool! But when you skite about performance, you better
a) back it up with proof or it never happened
b) expect flaming from members

Why? Because members have similar cars to you & have "serious" mods so, they don't want "wank talk" from others. They want "facts!"

I'm saying this so we can take your project serious & support you. Just keep it tight er? :cool:

Demanius
18-11-2011, 12:43 PM
Demanius, prolly because you are carrying on like a chook with it's head cut off!

It's OK to be excited & yes the V6's are cool but, when you change your story like the wind & confuse other members who are trying to take you seriously ie: engines, & come the "stealth" with everyone, it pisses people off you see? .....

It's OK to be different. Hey it's cool! But when you skite about performance, you better
a) back it up with proof or it never happened
b) expect flaming from members

Why? Because members have similar cars to you & have "serious" mods so, they don't want "wank talk" from others. They want "facts!"

I'm saying this so we can take your project serious & support you. Just keep it tight er? :cool:



You are right Naughty , I apologise to DC for saying such nonsense.

And for crapping on without proof.


What a mess again, i have got to return to reality.

IE. - Respecting other members.

- Provide Proof of the engine power.

- To stop talking ****.

- Yes I confused other members. I Did Tell my Cousin to put a KLZE in.

- I Got confused about the Manifold as it was still the Type R one.

- I remember he told me about how he got it ported and polished.

- Yes he found a 2.5 KLZE with less than 45 000 kms.



Conclusion = I Will Get Proof, When I dyno the Car. And Post the results no matter if its 90 kilowatts at the wheels or 150 kilowatts at the wheels.



Apologises once again.



Funny Note - I put the sticker on the front of my car windshield and the wipers scraped them off. :D :D Im a Flaka lol



I Need a Small one of Rupe lol AGAIN :D

Demanius
23-11-2011, 04:14 PM
Update:
Confirmed - stroked to 3.0 Litres. (I sincerely didnt know this until i asked).

Dyno will come Soon.


Thanks to Cousin Jay :)

Clean_Cookie
23-11-2011, 04:18 PM
I call bs, partly because if someone was working at lube mobile would probably never learn about in depth building of motors, similar to how i will never learn about wiring up machines in the mines.

Here's some mx6 people talking about the physics, have you revved it past 7k cause watch out if you have, things may explode if you're unlucky....

http://www.mx6.com/forums/2g-mx6-other-performance/90926-2-5-bored-out-3-0-a.html

mikey_something
23-11-2011, 04:35 PM
I call bs

i agree.
you've got all this stuff for free from your cousin, surely he has the ability to magic a dyno (thats how he got the klze right?) and throw you on it.
dyno or ban :rolleyes:

Demanius
23-11-2011, 04:53 PM
I will dyno it. everything costs money.....

Clean_Cookie
23-11-2011, 05:04 PM
So does smoking

phildough
23-11-2011, 05:15 PM
I will dyno it. everything costs money.....

Don't make claims that you can't back up unless you want people to make fun of you
I really don't think it is possible to stroke a K series motor to 3L, mazda did some amazing things to make the block into a 2.5L by boring it out to the minimum possible bore thickness and stroked it as well to stretch it out to 2.5L
Can you please get you cousin to let us know how he did it so we can inform Mazda they were wrong when they designed the engine.
It is possible that he stroked your old engine out by using a 2.5 crank shaft, but I dont think it would fit.

Clean_Cookie
23-11-2011, 05:23 PM
Phil 3.2 litres stroked has been done in mx6 forums. But its cost a buttload and engineering...and true geniuses.sadly lube mobile would never train staff how a motor works.

NaughtyGT
23-11-2011, 05:46 PM
not sure if the KLDE/ZE was stroked. I thought it was bored.

Anyway, regardless, stroking it would not be idle to increase HP. These are rev happy engines due to their short strokes. You would be far better to concentrate on raising the rev limit. The ZE in stock form would do 8g, the DE 7g.

Just my 2c worth..........

project.r.racing
23-11-2011, 07:12 PM
I will dyno it. everything costs money.....which tou claim you are short of. but now seens to have 1000s of $$$ to blow.

I call BS also!

Demanius
23-11-2011, 07:15 PM
Sorry, it's not stroked.

I will dyno it.


I'm making claims again sorry

Demanius
23-11-2011, 07:24 PM
It's still the same type R v6

The top end has been fixed up.

It felt like a bigger motor

I just was over excited that it's fixed up now

Sorry it's not a klze but it feels awesome still

Confirmed. Seriously

Clean_Cookie
23-11-2011, 08:19 PM
What are you trying.to do? If you want recognition, post up what you've done, make a worklog of WORK, not theories and contradictory statements.

You're just destroying any credibility you have/had. Sorry! It's true.

Fix this car up and amaze us :D

z100
23-11-2011, 08:22 PM
What are you trying.to do? If you want recognition, post up what you've done, make a worklog of WORK, not theories and contradictory statements.

You're just destroying any credibility you have/had. Sorry! It's true.

Fix this car up and amaze us :D

Been following the thread, this is the best advice yet. You'll gain much more respect if you stop typing and just make your next post the dyno chart. Good luck with the engine, whichever way it turns out.

dmwill
04-12-2011, 03:46 PM
yes speed kills, will take it to the track with the next car.



I seem to recall you saying something like that about a year ago on mx6.com

mikey_something
04-12-2011, 05:40 PM
I seem to recall you saying something like that about a year ago on mx6.com

He likes to join websites and spew lies.
Astinagt
Mx6
Mazda247
RSVP

Good luck with your v8.
Keep your hot head off the roads yeah? Some of us value our lives.

dmwill
04-12-2011, 07:52 PM
Roger Cordia v2.0

Demanius
05-12-2011, 03:39 PM
Thanks lol

I guess i know im famous now haha

Its not Lies lol, hey a klze is not enough anyway as well.


PS.. No hard feelings to anyone. Im still gonna be on here and going on Astina Gt cruises.


Apologises for so called Lying etc. Im just a galable fellow :D

mikey_something
05-12-2011, 04:38 PM
#1 Check out my v6 Astina!
#2 Where can i get a cheap exhaust, 20inch rims and how does one cut their springs
#3 Is my v6 faster than wrx, skyline, commy etc.?
#4 Anyone know any cheap panel beaters? Had a bingle.
#5 FS: Wrecking v6 (Accident Damage)

whenever you're ready to get on to steps 4 and 5 so we can stop hearing about your shenanigans...

Demanius
05-12-2011, 05:54 PM
Yes whatever ........

mattylagana
23-12-2011, 10:40 PM
lol poor bloke hahah, is he out of the burn unit yet?

Demanius
26-12-2011, 08:51 AM
Im back hahahaha.

I realise i was running on water vapors versing that ****ty aurion as i was on empty in fuel..., i would get him next time with 98 fuel in there hahaha.




SERIOUS UPDATE :

Got hit from behind accident, the damage is noticable but not that bad, getting the car getting finally fixed with there insurance company now.

fixing my car up new paint here and there should be good

Im ok, bit of whiplash but im cool.

Demanius
26-12-2011, 09:27 AM
What you guys think?

Im thinking of a getting a eunos 30x and putting a klze and ecu in there as its a straight plug in....

phildough
26-12-2011, 09:33 AM
Its not a plug in fit, the looms and sensors have to be swapped as well and due to the age and value of the car I wouldn't bother.

marcs_sp20
26-12-2011, 02:12 PM
Arent the 30x's 1.8l though??

Demanius
26-12-2011, 02:57 PM
yes they are, thought they were plug and play, but the astina will do, its fine atm with the 2.0 ze r motor

70NYD
26-12-2011, 08:26 PM
Mate of mine has a 30x with a FI kl in it. It's amazing. He had this engine in a 626 as well and it was incredible.

project.r.racing
27-12-2011, 03:11 PM
running on water vapours. didn't know KF-ZE engines were hydrogen. :p

Demanius
27-12-2011, 07:36 PM
Mouhjahaha , love you guys :)

Yeh I can't seem to get past developing this car more hehe

FI. Induction klze. Yes I need to do that some day :)

Man this project is starting again lol :eek:


First step :

Klze and ecu.

Clean_Cookie
27-12-2011, 09:53 PM
Ok now do it. Good luck.

Demanius
03-01-2012, 09:14 PM
Not sure if i uploaded these photos, ah well again :P

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/7417/deman02.th.jpg
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2898/deman01.th.jpg
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2811/22072010287.th.jpg
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9496/22072010286.th.jpg

marcs_sp20
04-01-2012, 07:01 PM
Oh FFS, get the car dyno'd & on the track already, no one needs to know about your illegal street racing bull****...

mikey_something
04-01-2012, 07:16 PM
#1 Check out my v6 Astina! ✓
#2 Where can i get a cheap exhaust, 20inch rims and how does one cut their springs ✓
#3 Is my v6 faster than wrx, skyline, commy, golf etc.? ✓
#4 Anyone know any cheap panel beaters? Had a bingle. ✓
#5 FS: Wrecking v6 (Accident Damage)


Quoted for truth.

Clean_Cookie
04-01-2012, 07:31 PM
HAHAHA suck it. If only it was one of those under cover cops. It's twats like you that is ruining all fun on the roads and making it forever harder to do track days, or rather insurance costs. Sorry but I'm sick of roger street racer.

Demanius
04-01-2012, 07:40 PM
I deleted the so called bull****, ok dyno it is.

phildough
04-01-2012, 07:40 PM
Forum rules:
Do not associate AstinaGT with illegal activity that could lead to prosecution
- Illegal driving techniques (Breaking your state laws – speeding, drink driving, burnouts, handbrake turns etc)
Please watch what you post.
You might get yourself in trouble.

Demanius
05-01-2012, 11:00 AM
My apologises Phil, no more posting crap.


update :


Tha Lantis is finally at the panel beaters now, about 2 weeks til i get it back.

Will post new pictures when its fixed up :)

phildough
05-01-2012, 11:56 AM
Im glad to hear you are getting you car fixed, now get it tidy, and keep it that way, no street racing as you don't want to get into trouble and then have to stop driving.

Demanius
07-01-2012, 11:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FLiP
i dunno... i've been looking on the net and it's right up there with the V6 BAs... maybe it was the driver
Jap v6s have 170hp and When I ran mine with 3 broken engine mounts and well and truely worn stock suspension and Aus ECU (meaning the VRIS were positioned in the wrong place in the rev range and I couldn't use the top 1000rpm) I still got a 15.8 with 2.2 60'. A properly tuned JDM v6 with correct ECU and halthy car should hold up a low to mid 15 unmodified
Chuck in a KL-ZE and youre looking at 14s
__________________


The Batmobile as she used to be and now she hangs from a chain in the garage



This is from quarter mile section on astinagt forums, this is goal low 15s,

I guess klze 14s for the future.

project.r.racing
07-01-2012, 07:44 PM
why not aim for 12s on your 1st run ever. get your cousin to pipe up 1000 shot of nos. that'll get you a 12 second car.

Demanius
07-01-2012, 07:46 PM
Haha funny, I guess I like having shots taken at me.

Well not really.....

Demanius
07-01-2012, 07:48 PM
If you remember I went to eastern creek last year I did 16.38 quarter when the car was farked, loose engine mounts timing belt not changed, aus ecu and stuffed distributor.

project.r.racing
07-01-2012, 10:20 PM
Sorry. I must have missed that between all the 'serious' updates.

Demanius
08-01-2012, 01:17 AM
Woooooooooooo, fark I'm gOnna rip eastern creek a new asshole biatches l u will see, I won't stop doing up until I'm in 12s

Fastest road astina, fark yeh. Keep pushin I'll do it hahah

Yes I'm drunk fark lol

marcs_sp20
08-01-2012, 09:18 AM
Good luck with that :rolleyes:

Demanius
08-01-2012, 10:23 AM
Ah man , sorry for the drunken post, I can't remember half the night .

project.r.racing
08-01-2012, 11:14 AM
Are you allowed to drink while taking bi-polar meds? Don't they react with eachother?

Demanius
08-01-2012, 11:38 AM
I'm not bi polar mate. Seriously . I'm just a lost boy , who needs to get a life

Clean_Cookie
08-01-2012, 12:52 PM
Well stop drinking and save the money up and buy life insurance with that epic car man.

Demanius
09-01-2012, 12:16 AM
Ok OK,

No more drinking, i swear.


UPDATE :

missing my car, my loan car a hyundai excel is a death trap.

god i missing it.

Photos coming buddies lol


ASTINA GT STICKERS COMING SOON ON MY CAR YE AGAIN.

this time i will put it on when its not raining, they are staying on forever :)

Demanius
11-01-2012, 09:13 PM
Well stop drinking and save the money up and buy life insurance with that epic car man.


Thanks for the compliments TC3 , the Type R motor is awesome.

Well it feels good not to drink anymore, excessively all the time :)

I wonder what a klze would feel like, with camshaft adjustment, extractors.

A ponder for the future i guess.

Demanius
13-01-2012, 12:48 PM
URGENT UPDATE :


MY CAR IS A RIGHT OFF.

I got a good payout. And im Keeping the Car.


Project Over.


The Car is still drivable, Anyone wants a Type R Motor KFZE Engine and Ecu.

The Engine is 100 % gates racing timing belt done.

The Whole Car has a good sound system in it.

Gear Box and Clutch still good.


Will See if anyone is interested PM me.

marcs_sp20
13-01-2012, 01:02 PM
Thought it was being repaired?

Rupewrecht
13-01-2012, 01:05 PM
What happened?

Demanius
13-01-2012, 01:17 PM
The Car was 5500 dollars worth of damage.

Total loss, Chassis damage. I got Hit pretty Hard from behind.

phildough
13-01-2012, 01:46 PM
$20???

Clean_Cookie
13-01-2012, 03:45 PM
I'll raise ya $1

Rupewrecht
13-01-2012, 03:54 PM
Now now, play nice. The guy has just lost his car!

phildough
13-01-2012, 03:58 PM
Was it insured?

Demanius
13-01-2012, 04:43 PM
Yes, got plenty of time to sell the car and or parts.

Thanks Dan for the support :)

mikey_something
13-01-2012, 05:29 PM
Didn't someone on this forum predict these events?

Demanius
13-01-2012, 09:14 PM
Edited- I'm sorry I regret what I posted

100 %

Demanius
13-01-2012, 09:26 PM
I'm drunk again thread closed .

marcs_sp20
13-01-2012, 09:29 PM
Word of Advice - Stay off the net while drunk, you just end up doing stupid sh!t and regretting it later...

z100
13-01-2012, 10:35 PM
Word of Advice - Stay off the net, you just end up doing stupid sh!t and regretting it later...

Fixed that for you. Just teasing Demanius! :p

Demanius
13-01-2012, 11:11 PM
Hahaha funny man, all good

Was a great thrill ride with u Guys ;)

70NYD
13-01-2012, 11:26 PM
Didn't someone on this forum predict these events?

Yes, few pages back, but let's move on
Hope your ok mate, go to the doctor, get scans, make sure you don't have lasting affects after the incident.
Hope all is well

phildough
14-01-2012, 07:16 AM
Its a shame about your car bro, there are lots more out there.
Maybe its time to move on and buy a better car.
Maybe get a SP20 and FS-ZE it.

Demanius
16-01-2012, 09:06 AM
No offense my lantis type r is faster and better than sp20

marcs_sp20
16-01-2012, 09:36 AM
No offense my lantis type r was faster and better than sp20

Fixed :p

phildough
16-01-2012, 09:49 AM
No offense my lantis type r is faster and better than sp20

Not a SP20 with a FS-ZE in it, the FS-ZE has a lot more low down torque than the V6 and the FS-DE.
I used to own a JDM spec Eunos 500 with the LSD and a mate had a true Lantis Type R and there was bugger all between them.
But my BG 1.8 GT was quicker than both!!!

_stuz_
16-01-2012, 10:44 AM
The Engine is 100 % gates racing timing belt done.

I still want you to show me where to find this timing belt, I have checked all over the net and found zilch. . .I have even checked and double checked the Gates website. . . :rolleyes:



Stu

Demanius
16-01-2012, 01:33 PM
1100 kilos mate

140 kilowatts still adamant

End of disscussion hahaha

Can't beat the noise too of a v6

phildough
16-01-2012, 02:48 PM
Start of discussion.
The KF-ZE used in the Mazda type R lantis was only 130KW @7000RPM and had 180 NM of torque @5500 RPM.
Also your car is heavier than you think at 1240 KG
So all your facts are out.
Just so you know my engine is 129 KW @ 6800 and has 185 NM of torque at 5500 RPM and my car is lighter at 1140 KG.
So in a race I would win. Also the 2.0 V6 has no torque at low revs.
Its all at the top end of the rev range.
End of discussion.
Yes you are right the V6 sounds nice but as I said earlier I used to have the JDM 160HP Eunos 500 which is almost your car and I found it to be rather gutless unless you were flogging the engine.
I only kept the car for 3 months and this is way back in 1996 as it was BORING and found my old 1.8 BG Familia more powerful.

Rupewrecht
16-01-2012, 02:54 PM
He's still right about BAs being better though :p

smurfy
16-01-2012, 03:01 PM
in your dreams rupe :p

phildough
16-01-2012, 03:06 PM
Better looking = yes.
More practical = no.
Nicer to drive = no.
Try getting someone tall to sit in the back of your BA without whinging.

Rupewrecht
16-01-2012, 03:12 PM
I disagree. Stock for stock, a BA is much nicer to drive, in my opinion.

But I never said anything about practical - i know they're crap compared to the BJ lol

Demanius
16-01-2012, 05:41 PM
Ok ok sorry guys you win :)

70NYD
16-01-2012, 05:48 PM
We can't get in to discussion of which shape looks and is better as each individual has their own needs and purposes and tastes. I personally think the BA is the best shape, and for what I needed was practical, and very comfortable. Looked like a coupe but had 4 doors. But that's my opinion and that's why I got it. And everyone here got theirs because they wanted that one at the time.
Nothing of the three (bg ba bj) beats the BJ in overall practicality (Marc's car for eg), but I never needed to transport big objects :) (eg fridge :eek:)

Duke
16-01-2012, 05:53 PM
Ba styling cue's were way ahead of their time, and always has been the most attractive design of its era IMO.

Demanius
16-01-2012, 09:03 PM
CAR IS SOLD!!!

Thank you all Mazda buddies :))

smurfy
16-01-2012, 09:09 PM
gees that was fast.

what next ?

Clean_Cookie
16-01-2012, 09:20 PM
Buy a bus.

Demanius
16-01-2012, 10:35 PM
Holden V8 - Time for a V8.

lol a Bus :P bulldoze the traffic lol

Duke
16-01-2012, 10:39 PM
Cheers Dennis.
The kf will live on in my hatch to see another day! Will keep you all posted

smurfy
16-01-2012, 10:47 PM
did you buy it duke?

DavoAust
16-01-2012, 11:00 PM
holden v8 is pretty much LIKE a bus. Just try hitting some nice corners :p

Duke
16-01-2012, 11:03 PM
Indeed smurfy.
Reading back on the previous posts, Dennis is a good guy! Cut him a bit of slack! :p
But regardless, the motor and car is very healthy, pulls quite hard! Much harder then my de ever did, look forward to fostering it with a new home in my hatch.

phildough
16-01-2012, 11:29 PM
Cheers Dennis.
The kf will live on in my hatch to see another day! Will keep you all posted

Can you please get it dynoed with the ECU to see what it really was!

He is a good guy, he just makes a few silly posts whilst drunk.
I would have like to have got the chance to say hi to him whilst I was in Sydney but I was too hungover and had no map.

Zenki
16-01-2012, 11:30 PM
His car is sold. This topic should be closed!

dmwill
17-01-2012, 12:57 PM
Holden V8 - Time for a V8.


Next round of LOLs- coming to Commodore forum soon.

smurfy
17-01-2012, 02:48 PM
dmwill has made the jump across from omc :)

dont buy a commowhore!! Youll regret it. Buy something lighter and zippy, an honda interga?

Demanius
17-01-2012, 10:26 PM
dmwill has made the jump across from omc :)

dont buy a commowhore!! Youll regret it. Buy something lighter and zippy, an honda interga?


Not sure, what about a familia GTR or GTX ? are they good? relaible?

phildough
17-01-2012, 10:44 PM
TBH they are now getting too old and finding one in good condition would be difficult.
And parts now are rare.

marcs_sp20
17-01-2012, 10:46 PM
Might as well just buy an Aurion...

If ya cant beat them, join'em :p

rodhog
17-01-2012, 11:03 PM
Well I've stayed out because I could - even with a broken leg and nothing to do. (it's punishment for sleeping with women under 21 - don't worry I paid LOL thats the way I look at it)

1st off
Dennis Do yourself and I mean this in the same way as when I meet you at that meet up.
Don't buy a headache. YOu need tryed and proven path. Trust me YOu either Follow or make a path in life and the fact your here looking for help - you need to follow.
Work out two things - BUDGET and WHAT YOU WANT.
Look at A.E he knew he really wanted a 200SX he got it. Maybe he might not if his SP20 lasted longer but He didn't question it etc.
So if you can't figrue it out - decided - do you want a coupe - Yes or NO
Do you want - Economey or Power - you can't have both. **** OFF TO everyone else because power is money or should I say FUEL you still burn up the same per KW. I bought 4 cars because I want it all. -CARRYING - POWER - LUXURY - ECONOMEY. I just don't drive them at the same time. Nothing personal just don't want ot here how you can have it you can't = end game ( sorry not without buying a Bently GT - new )
Do you want if for future - need for work daily transport etc
Most of all WORK THE BUDGET including Insurance etc etc.

Then Figure what fits you.

Everyone here can recommend good cars. For me knowing sydneys current youth scene and the like I your looking at R34 coupe Gt-T but it might not be in the budget. Insurance will cost etc.
Big holdens - fords - all good cars -to point. If was building another 12 second family 4 door it's another SS - - auto this time exhaust tune - koni's - Lovells and another 12.7 run.

now something you may think is wrong but don't think anyone will disagree with too much. Don't buy another BA astina - in that I mean
Lexus Is200- Is250 - ALFA - anything - A GOLF that not a GTI - Dont' buy cars that are not going fit your need for Modification or Differentation.

Buy something that you can get 90% off shelf. This will save you the questioning the following of the wrong idea.
I've never said you can't make any car better - but the MOST INDIVIDUAL cars always cost the most. Everything is pionneer Everything is one off or close too
IMO having seen you drive I'd even say WRX just be gentle with the box buy post my02. You would be okay.

Thats all on that.


2nd thing Guys the Motor was okay nothing spectacular.
I've driven auto and manual Mx- KF-ZE powered cars - I would not say it was quicker nor slower. It was no KL-ZE
TO put in perspective. I followed him behind a fair bit I saw him excellerate I in 2nd in the wagon FEDOHC. Nothing much in it. In fact one would say both engines are like on paper the KF-ZE would top out more. I would say with my mods similar and the bigger factor I noticed Weight - I've got 250KG wagon body over base 2 hatch. It was 16 second flat car maybe even quicker. If it could launch, Lets be ohnest it's the hardest thing to do on the street and without a LSD. Even then you have to abuse the clutch to get it right. Let me say doing it every day on the way to work has now left me doing turbo shaft upgrades. And hubs. Probelry never told of my broken hub at 50km/h but caliper saved my life. Wheel didn't fall off. Funny but.

SO give Dennis break okay fellas. Hes not that bad a bloke.

Trust me when I tell you worse guys in sydney talking nothing.

Hell **** I was told my Wagon beat 15 second Civic - yet my best is 16.52 at 82MPH I didn't even get 88MPH.

Demanius
18-01-2012, 12:05 PM
Omg I knew I was famous haha

Thanks so much duke for successful sale,

Thanks Rodhog love ya buddy :)


V8 time lol

I'm a car man always 98 octane in my blood and in the car.


I will stay on these forums for cruises hehe

And a hsv or Holden forum Demanius is coming your way lol I hope :)

mikey_something
18-01-2012, 04:08 PM
apparently i only missed you by 10 minutes at dukes

Demanius
18-01-2012, 04:35 PM
All good mikey . wouldve been nice to meet and reconcile, you are a good bloke and predicted alot of things :)


All good champ :)

phildough
18-01-2012, 05:17 PM
I will be coming back to Sydney soon so this time we will have to catch up.
This time I won't be hungover as a dog.

smurfy
18-01-2012, 05:25 PM
tell us next time your coming down phill :) and we will organise a cruise/meet

SLY 323
18-01-2012, 05:58 PM
I dont mean to dig up any old questions or mean any disrespect though how would one confirm that dennis actually had a ZE?

Demanius
18-01-2012, 06:01 PM
I dont mean to dig up any old questions or mean any disrespect though how would one confirm that dennis actually had a ZE?


Duke - He put his right foot down, i was in the passenger seat :)

project.r.racing
18-01-2012, 06:11 PM
that does not answer the question.

Demanius
18-01-2012, 06:36 PM
True. He has to open it up should klze camshafts in it. Kl31 I think

Cosmo Dude
18-01-2012, 06:42 PM
The only mechanical difference I've seen between the KFZE and KFDE is higher compression. Same cams, same heads, same inlet manifold, same throttlebody. KFZE were the same in Type X and Type R

SLY 323
18-01-2012, 07:00 PM
Whats the actual likely hood that its actualy a ZE?

smurfy
18-01-2012, 07:03 PM
1 outta 10000 :P

Demanius
18-01-2012, 07:20 PM
Quite like this post :)

Don't know yet what to buy, a v8 well realistically I'm not sure hehe.

Will see, another front driver integra possibly :)


Well I've stayed out because I could - even with a broken leg and nothing to do. (it's punishment for sleeping with women under 21 - don't worry I paid LOL thats the way I look at it)

1st off
Dennis Do yourself and I mean this in the same way as when I meet you at that meet up.
Don't buy a headache. YOu need tryed and proven path. Trust me YOu either Follow or make a path in life and the fact your here looking for help - you need to follow.
Work out two things - BUDGET and WHAT YOU WANT.
Look at A.E he knew he really wanted a 200SX he got it. Maybe he might not if his SP20 lasted longer but He didn't question it etc.
So if you can't figrue it out - decided - do you want a coupe - Yes or NO
Do you want - Economey or Power - you can't have both. **** OFF TO everyone else because power is money or should I say FUEL you still burn up the same per KW. I bought 4 cars because I want it all. -CARRYING - POWER - LUXURY - ECONOMEY. I just don't drive them at the same time. Nothing personal just don't want ot here how you can have it you can't = end game ( sorry not without buying a Bently GT - new )
Do you want if for future - need for work daily transport etc
Most of all WORK THE BUDGET including Insurance etc etc.

Then Figure what fits you.

Everyone here can recommend good cars. For me knowing sydneys current youth scene and the like I your looking at R34 coupe Gt-T but it might not be in the budget. Insurance will cost etc.
Big holdens - fords - all good cars -to point. If was building another 12 second family 4 door it's another SS - - auto this time exhaust tune - koni's - Lovells and another 12.7 run.

now something you may think is wrong but don't think anyone will disagree with too much. Don't buy another BA astina - in that I mean
Lexus Is200- Is250 - ALFA - anything - A GOLF that not a GTI - Dont' buy cars that are not going fit your need for Modification or Differentation.

Buy something that you can get 90% off shelf. This will save you the questioning the following of the wrong idea.
I've never said you can't make any car better - but the MOST INDIVIDUAL cars always cost the most. Everything is pionneer Everything is one off or close too
IMO having seen you drive I'd even say WRX just be gentle with the box buy post my02. You would be okay.

Thats all on that.


2nd thing Guys the Motor was okay nothing spectacular.
I've driven auto and manual Mx- KF-ZE powered cars - I would not say it was quicker nor slower. It was no KL-ZE
TO put in perspective. I followed him behind a fair bit I saw him excellerate I in 2nd in the wagon FEDOHC. Nothing much in it. In fact one would say both engines are like on paper the KF-ZE would top out more. I would say with my mods similar and the bigger factor I noticed Weight - I've got 250KG wagon body over base 2 hatch. It was 16 second flat car maybe even quicker. If it could launch, Lets be ohnest it's the hardest thing to do on the street and without a LSD. Even then you have to abuse the clutch to get it right. Let me say doing it every day on the way to work has now left me doing turbo shaft upgrades. And hubs. Probelry never told of my broken hub at 50km/h but caliper saved my life. Wheel didn't fall off. Funny but.

SO give Dennis break okay fellas. Hes not that bad a bloke.

Trust me when I tell you worse guys in sydney talking nothing.

Hell **** I was told my Wagon beat 15 second Civic - yet my best is 16.52 at 82MPH I didn't even get 88MPH.

project.r.racing
18-01-2012, 07:31 PM
1 outta 10000 :Psorry you forgot to put 2 more zeros on the end there.

phildough
18-01-2012, 08:05 PM
What ever the engine is it has gone to a good home now.
Have you considered a Mazda 3 MPS?

Cosmo Dude
18-01-2012, 08:08 PM
IMHO V8 commo or something similar so that you can walk into autobarn and get parts off the shelf and the staff know how and where they fit.

SLY 323
18-01-2012, 08:13 PM
Mmmm MPS. Yeah good idea.

Clean_Cookie
18-01-2012, 08:33 PM
buy a v8, they are easier to get big power and 10 second strip times! that is, 10 seconds before something isnt Hold'en on anymore HAHAHAHA...

Demanius
19-01-2012, 04:49 PM
buy a v8, they are easier to get big power and 10 second strip times! that is, 10 seconds before something isnt Hold'en on anymore HAHAHAHA...


LOL , I HAVE GOT A SURPRISE.


MAZDA MPS 3 - nothing hahahahahaha V8 Maybe :D



Chopping Time , Friendly Post :)

phildough
19-01-2012, 05:13 PM
Whats the surprise Dennis??
You are going back to school to learn to speak and write English then post things that make sense.
But other wise what have you done?

marcs_sp20
19-01-2012, 05:25 PM
I think its time we lay this thread to rest..

Clean_Cookie
19-01-2012, 05:41 PM
If this is locked another one will re-emerge.

Demanius
19-01-2012, 06:32 PM
Lock This Thread Please.


Im off these forums forever. (Until I see Dukes Project Worklog - Im sooo eager to see :)))) )

Im a Nice bloke.


Take Care.


Duke Give me a ring sometime have a drink or something ;)
Hotrog Love you too :)

Rupe/Dan - Thanks for your help.

The rest..........mmmmmm :mad: :D

Clean_Cookie
19-01-2012, 07:49 PM
good luck with your future endevours mate, we dont hate you, if you can make a decision, and stick with it you will go far. thats all i can say.

Demanius
19-01-2012, 08:21 PM
thanks i made a decision :)

I bought myself a HSV V8 and I love it :)

smurfy
19-01-2012, 08:50 PM
picsss ???

dont close the thread! its entertaining :)

phildough
19-01-2012, 08:53 PM
Congrats dude on your new car.
Drive carefully at first as the V8 has a lot more power and can get you into a lot more trouble very easily - Especially in the rain.
I would highly suggest investing some of your money into an advanced car control day, for example a skid pan day.
I went to the QLD one a few years ago and the V8 that was there at the start of the day was spinning on every corner and by the end of the day was holding slides for ages.
Good luck with your new car and if I make it back to Sydney soon we must catch up for a beer or whatever.

70NYD
19-01-2012, 09:20 PM
Good luck man, post some pics :)
Hope you enjoy the car, but don't forget the astina :D
Drive carefully untill you get used to the RWD and power :)

Duke
19-01-2012, 09:34 PM
Ah nice dennis, should be a good car.
Like everyone has mentioned, take it easy in it, especially if this is your first full fledged RWD, lots of torque, wet roads can = a pole or tree quite easily! so be careful buddy!

Demanius
19-01-2012, 09:51 PM
OK , yes i was just joking about staying off the forums im a biatch mouhahah. :P

Thanks guys :D


No Pictures Yet , Picking it up next week :) Bought it today. Will Post Pics Soon :P


Its a VS HSV Clubsport Automatic 5.0 litre. Dark Blue :)

Mildy Tuned, full Exhaust System , Suspension and brake upgrades (slotted and cross drilled discs at the front)

Front Camber Kit.


Drove it today OMG. Totally different :)

Demanius
19-01-2012, 09:52 PM
Ah nice dennis, should be a good car.
Like everyone has mentioned, take it easy in it, especially if this is your first full fledged RWD, lots of torque, wet roads can = a pole or tree quite easily! so be careful buddy!


Will Do ;):eek::eek:;)

marcs_sp20
19-01-2012, 09:57 PM
OK , yes i was just joking about staying off the forums im a biatch mouhahah. :P

Thanks guys :D


No Pictures Yet , Picking it up next week :) Bought it today. Will Post Pics Soon :P


Its a VS HSV Clubsport Automatic 5.0 litre. Dark Blue :)

Mildy Tuned, full Exhaust System , Suspension and brake upgrades (slotted and cross drilled discs at the front)

Front Camber Kit.


Drove it today OMG. Totally different :)

Make sure you throw in a camber kit in the rear as all VS' are known to camber in heaps, and thats without even towing!

185kw should be enough oomph I reckon ;)

z100
19-01-2012, 10:32 PM
And keep an eye on the diff, they like to chew them.

phildough
19-01-2012, 10:40 PM
And the cops and speed cameras in Sydney. I can't believe how many cameras there are!

rodhog
19-01-2012, 11:47 PM
OH Vs- 185KW - ah I remember them days LOL Ah use to be Yellow in my street one of the Special Blueprints - Funny how it was stolen after it had this massive massive tree impression on it's side.

I bought the COME crank in it. but enough about that.

Proberly have only have the single piston calipers on it? Maybe if it does YOUR BEST thing to do - GO get the basic VT upgrade bolt on legal system. Unless it's has the Group A twin spots. Do the upgrade. Just my experience and advice I did the group A upgrade from a VP - to a VR Clubby always worth it. BUt not many floating around and IMO quicker with even basic VT upgrade and quietier. Alot less noise But each to there own.

Everyone here will fear - I don't - To me yeah easy to slide etc etc.
You will learn but I understand the fear.

GSRs and Early WRX's made all them HSV nervous. But if you knew the limit and it's the Limit to fear. They are a great point and squirt car.

If you need a new boot lid seal let me know I might still have one in my left overs from when I had a few of them early beast I know I did have one around I don't think I sold it.
Got stuck with Mazda rubbers.

NaughtyGT
20-01-2012, 09:23 AM
And the cops and speed cameras in Sydney. I can't believe how many cameras there are!

aint got nothin' on Vic man ;) You wanna try living down in this craphole. 50kph, 70 then, yep you guessed it.....50 :D don't get me started..........

z100
20-01-2012, 10:15 AM
aint got nothin' on Vic man ;) You wanna try living down in this craphole. 50kph, 70 then, yep you guessed it.....50 :D don't get me started..........

Yep, Victoria is the Nanny state when it comes to speed cameras. You spend all your time watching the speedo and not the road!

mattylagana
20-01-2012, 12:57 PM
nice car shame it's auto my old boy is running a 215 hsg senator, 6 speed manual really one off those cars and unique to, enjoy buddy

Demanius
27-01-2012, 01:22 PM
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/5143/micar.jpg


Thanks Boys.


My Car, Genesis Blue :)

Auto is good, fast shifts.

Clean_Cookie
27-01-2012, 01:34 PM
just dont be an idiot like the guy infront of me last night. doing a one wheel spin in the wet waiting for the lights to turn green, then almost smashing it on the gutter when his bald tyres let go... didnt even spin them enough to make any noise or smoke LOL. good luck mate!

phildough
27-01-2012, 01:43 PM
Nice car dude, look after it, in good condition they are rare now.
I can remember when they first came out I used to go hunting for them in the rain in my old 4WD Mazda Familia GTAE.
They were good fun in the dry but in the rain I would win every time due to still having traction.
So please be careful, and look after it.

Demanius
27-01-2012, 05:33 PM
No worries , thanks cookie and Phil , wow u had a familia awesome :)

marcs_sp20
01-02-2012, 11:40 PM
My opinion would be not to molest it with engine mods, but hey not my car...

And get rid of those ****ing ugly tail lights, its not a honda!

rodhog
02-02-2012, 03:14 AM
IMO ABuse the **** out of it.

I can garentee you this model will never ever be a classic Holden.
The only model to hold anything will be original blueprint GTS-R's and that's it.
Hell a Rare Wagon HSV would be worth more in future original because it's a wagon.

HSV badge don't add much unless it's model they made less than 50-100 of.

Alot of fun and cheap to play with overall. Lacks any class but so anything with Holden or Ford badge on it.
Ever notice those people who were the HRT shirts or FPR shirts. You never see them at cocktail dinner.

Demanius
02-02-2012, 10:40 AM
14000 dollars at the dealers....... but of course they are twats lol

I guess everytime a fark stick crashes one of these things value goes up lol Good for me :P

Demanius
02-02-2012, 10:47 AM
Im always at cocktail dinners hahaha .

JDM323
02-02-2012, 05:10 PM
vx onwards got rear toe adjustment factory fitted to deal with the tyre wear on the insides of the rear tyres or as said earlier camber kits will also help, just keep an eye on the back tyres and enjoy