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BigBoyLemonade
11-02-2003, 09:01 PM
[color=#006666:post_uid0]Mazda Astina SP - Turbo : General Information
Located Canberra, ACT
3 months Rego
Engine 65000kms - Body 184000kms
Dyno'd at 183bhp at front wheels with 15psi boost
Fully Engineered with Certificate.
Email Me for Information (mischka@austarmetro.com.au)
$15,000 negotiable
Mazda Astina SP - Turbo : Options & Accessories
Air Conditioning
Power Steering
Power Windows & Mirrors
Central Locking
Sports Seats
Leather MOMO Steering Wheel
Alarm, Engine Immobilizer
Window Tinting
Blitz Dual Turbo Timer
Autometer Ultra Lite Pro Gauges (Volts + Oil Pressure + Air/Fuel)
15”x7” TSW Blades with Firestone 195/55 rubber.
Alpine Tape player - Twin 6 CD Stacker Ai-Net with CD splitter (which can handle 3 more Stackers)
Orion 6.5" splits at front in custom mounted door panels
Rockford 3.5” plate splits in the rear.
Dynomat on front doors and full sound proofing carpet under floor
Optima Coil Cell Battery - Red Top

Mazda Astina SP - Turbo : Engine Modifications
2.5”Mandrel Bent Exhaust from Turbo Back + High Flow VL Cat
Engine is a 1992 GT-X Familia 1.8 DOHC Turbo model.
100% Sync Oil - changed every 5000kms
Gearbox has been rebuild with heavy duty bearings and runs 100% Sync Racing Oil.
9mm Spark Leads into NGK v-groove's.
Additional High Pressure Bosch Fuel pump.
Rewired Fuel Pumps with direct 12Volt power to increase flow.
Ground out Intake Manifold.

Clutch - Sprung Brass Button 4 plate version (Rated to handle 350bhp)

Suspension - Adj. Koni's all round (These have been custom built for the car.)
Lovell 2.5" lower Springs
Lowell rear bar
Poly mounts on front and rear Bars

K&N 3 inch Air filter with cold air intake
Large Front Custom made Alloy Intercooler with Alloy piping.
GFB Blow off Valve
Autometer Ultra Lite Pro Fuel Pressure Gauge attached to a Fuel Boost Pressure Valve set to 75psi (Max Load)
IHI Turbo has been rebuilt with all Steel Internals (No Ceramic Exhaust Spool) and has been High Flowed.
High Pressure Full Flow Fuel Filter.
Chrome & Polished Rocker Cover, Intake Manifold and Intercooler piping.
New DBA Slotted & Cross Drilled Rotors all round.
New CV Joints and Drive Shafts.

Pictures here (http://www.astinagt.com/images/geoff/index.html)[/color:post_uid0]

IZG-00D
12-02-2003, 02:18 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]tony, what is he buying next if any?[/color:post_uid0]

BigMal
12-02-2003, 02:45 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid1]He has a Liberty B4 to play with nowadays.[/color:post_uid1]

IZG-00D
12-02-2003, 02:58 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]WOW. twin turbo...[/color:post_uid0]

Mischka
14-02-2003, 01:43 AM
[color=#000080:post_uid0]Yep is running 15psi and about to be turned up to 18psi, and the B4 is about to breath abit easier with a full 3" exhaust system under it. :D

But the Astina still pulls harder than the B4 but the B4 has more comfort with it full leather interior. :cool:

So if anyone out there that you know wants to join the turbo club get them to give me an Email. and we can talk out the price for my Astina Turbo.[/color:post_uid0]

mrpayner
14-02-2003, 01:47 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Hey Geoff,

Long time to see! Hope that B4 is keeping you busy!!

Adam[/color:post_uid0]

Mischka
04-03-2003, 09:39 AM
[color=#000080:post_uid12]SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD
SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD
SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD

With a :( on my face I watch my much loved Astina drive away today for $12500 to a keen Astina Driver.

SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD
SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD
SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD SOLD[/color:post_uid12]

TURBO MAZDA
05-03-2003, 10:20 PM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Does any one know what 184bhp is in kw ???

And what year model Mischka astina[/color:post_uid0]

sik astina
05-03-2003, 10:30 PM
[color=#0000FF:post_uid0]i think its about 138kw[/color:post_uid0]

MrShadow
06-03-2003, 02:35 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Looks like an 92 (?)model (the one with the pop-up lights)[/color:post_uid0]

TURBO MAZDA
06-03-2003, 04:16 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]138 kw, thats prety good for that size turbo , my astina puts out 160 kw at the wheels on 15psi but i have a T03 and a 3inch exaust + the rest of the crap[/color:post_uid0]

mrpayner
06-03-2003, 05:54 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]Hey Geoff,

You tell that bloke about this site?? :D :D

Hehehe, can't go past free advertising!

Adam[/color:post_uid0]

O-LYM-PIC
06-03-2003, 07:57 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]the rule i use is that kw's are about (just a bit over) 2/3 of hp. and then kw at the wheels are about 2/3 of kw at the flywheel. not exact, but it gives u a lil bit of a guide.[/color:post_uid0]

Asterix
08-03-2003, 01:21 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid0]From memory you multiply the KW by 1.6 to get the BHP & conversely, you divide the BHP to get KW.
By my calcs, that's 115KW. Still bloody good to be at the wheels.
The 1.8L Silvia's around around 125KW at the flywheel. A mate has a non-boosted one with 3inch mandrel bend. He says that takes it to 138KW. Maybe around 120KW at wheels, but that thing pulls HARD!
I guess there is less power dissipation/loss in a FWD than with a RWD due to the setup.[/color:post_uid0]

bRaDiNhO
22-03-2003, 05:31 AM
[color=#FF0000:post_uid0]$12500!? Ugh. If that price was posted originally I would have had a long hard think. :( I want turbo.[/color:post_uid0]

..::TalenT::..
07-04-2003, 04:45 AM
[color=#000000:post_uid2]nah nah the rules like this..
one Hp = 746 watts so...
in that astinas case.. 184 bhp is equal to 137264 watts. so obviously, one killo watt is 1000 watts so if we divide 137264 by 1000 you get 137.264Kw which is what sik astina said.. well .736 off a killo watt off *:p but hey every .736 of a Kw makes a difference ! ! !

adam *:cool:[/color:post_uid2]

BigBoyLemonade
07-04-2003, 07:25 PM
[color=#006666:post_uid0]Mine has 112.5kw @ the wheels on 11psi

It was the same dyno as where geoffs has his done...

I originally had 56kw @ the wheels so I effectively doubled my power...

We should have an astinagt.com dyno shoot out![/color:post_uid0]

pr1mo
30-05-2003, 12:00 AM
ah yes i can see it now Astina GT State of origin series

Lantis on rupe

mik on mick

kitty on kitty
:lol:



cheers mike

sik astina
30-05-2003, 07:34 AM
ah yes i can see it now Astina GT State of origin series

Lantis on rupe

mik on mick

kitty on kitty
:lol:

cheers mike


Dont know why u brought up an old thread :roll:

u been smoking again? :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BigBoyLemonade
30-05-2003, 09:33 AM
Its his way of telling you to organise a Dyno day shoot out!!!

Come On Mr. Lazy Boy

sik astina
30-05-2003, 11:15 AM
Last time i tried no one wanted to do it :lol: :P

BCNYA
13-06-2003, 08:22 PM
Astina dyno day eh, I will be in that!

I think it would end up being a gearbox munching contest!!

MrShadow
14-06-2003, 12:07 PM
hmm, well if this is going tp happen, I might just buy into a gearbox business.... :wink:

BCNYA
14-06-2003, 04:13 PM
Go on man buy a gearbox buisness and i will be ya best customer !!! :D

Cosmo Dude
14-06-2003, 10:46 PM
Mmmmmmmmmm,
Dyno day, mind if I bring the Cosmo?????

Rod

P.S. It isn't a JC only a HB :oops:

Dazz
16-06-2003, 09:04 PM
how much would it roughly cost to turbo my 1.8 astina? anyone know?

mrpayner
16-06-2003, 09:40 PM
Mate, talk to the people in the know.....

- Lantis
- BigMal
- rupewrecht

:D

They'll point you down the force fed highway to turbo heaven....

Adam

BigBoyLemonade
17-06-2003, 08:07 AM
between 4-6k depending on what intercooler and exhaust system you get. Warning: you break your gearbox within 12months of turboing your car.

BCNYA
18-06-2003, 09:07 PM
. Warning: you break your gearbox within 12months of turboing your car.[/quote]

And regularly. I blew mine again today on the way back from Queensland. I was going through Coffs Harbour up the hill racing a VL Turbo, 3rd gear spinning whan it decided to drop its guts in a blaze of glory with a 200 meter oil slick. I had to leave it up there to get another one put in. This time i am trying a locker to see if it helps.
The place where i had my car dynoed turned the boost down so it was driveable. It was only making just over 200 hp at the treads! Those standard laser gearboxes are **** but i guess that they were not built for that purpose eh?

BigMal
19-06-2003, 02:12 PM
Wow that makes my 4 in 4years sound pretty tame.
I haven't upped the boost or anything for concern over
faster gearbox breakage. I think all hopes rest with Dan
to see if his billet gearbox will really handle the power
once the new motor is running.

Mal :(

Rupewrecht
19-06-2003, 02:31 PM
Wow that makes my 4 in 4years sound pretty tame.
I haven't upped the boost or anything for concern over
faster gearbox breakage. I think all hopes rest with Dan
to see if his billet gearbox will really handle the power
once the new motor is running.

Mal :(

tell me about it! I'm paranoid that it'll break easily even so

TURBO MAZDA
19-06-2003, 02:55 PM
I must have a good box??

My car has been a turbo 4 about a year and a half and nothing wrong besides a worn sincro. I think it also has to do with the way you drive it.

BCNYA
19-06-2003, 07:33 PM
Wow that makes my 4 in 4years sound pretty tame.
I haven't upped the boost or anything for concern over
faster gearbox breakage. I think all hopes rest with Dan
to see if his billet gearbox will really handle the power
once the new motor is running.

Mal :(

Man 4 in 4 years is a good run!
I have done 7 in the last 6 months!

BCNYA
19-06-2003, 07:38 PM
I must have a good box??

My car has been a turbo 4 about a year and a half and nothing wrong besides a worn sincro. I think it also has to do with the way you drive it.

I dont think so matey. 3 of my boxes have blown on the dyno. 4 have blown just coming on boost. No hard gear changes ever.
It may have something to do with the fact that when u put 2 or 3 times the power of what your car has through the front wheels something has to give.
Try a bit more boost than 6psi and see what happens?

Cosmo Dude
19-06-2003, 10:06 PM
I have an Rx-7 series IV box in the Cosmo, I had it rebuilt B4 I started giving it heaps. The guy who rebuilt it used all the heavy duty bearings (the Rx box is almost the same as commercial Mazda boxes but with better bearings).
Any photos of the busted boxes, were they second-hand, rebuilt, or unknown.

Rod

Cosmo Dude
19-06-2003, 10:15 PM
Please don't answer here. I'll start a thread in Performance.

TURBO MAZDA
20-06-2003, 12:20 AM
I must have a good box??

My car has been a turbo 4 about a year and a half and nothing wrong besides a worn sincro. I think it also has to do with the way you drive it.

I dont think so matey. 3 of my boxes have blown on the dyno. 4 have blown just coming on boost. No hard gear changes ever.
It may have something to do with the fact that when u put 2 or 3 times the power of what your car has through the front wheels something has to give.
Try a bit more boost than 6psi and see what happens?

WHO'S RUNNING 6PSI ????

I have a T03/T04 Turbo running at 15PSI and have had it up as high as 20PSI, with out a problem!!!!!

So that is why i don't get how you blow so many boxes.

And YES my box is completly standard.

Toyboy
20-06-2003, 12:54 AM
:shock:

BigBoyLemonade
20-06-2003, 08:42 AM
:shock: too

I have the answer as well!

18" wheels, Every person I know who has got them and turbo has broken a box

I have blown my box once... It was only 3 teeth off third and I had it rebuilt...

I dont know when it will go again

Crolla
20-06-2003, 09:29 AM
Hopefully not soon, but i dunno the way you drive sometimes ;)

BigBoyLemonade
20-06-2003, 09:41 AM
OI!

I drive normally! just a little faster than some ppl!

Just cause they dont know how to accelerate properly round the corner

pr1mo
20-06-2003, 09:44 AM
yeah i agree.
dam stupid people! to hell with them all!

:lol:

JynX
20-06-2003, 12:42 PM
go turbo!

BigMal
20-06-2003, 04:47 PM
Just to add something which made sense last time I had the box
replaced as I bought the last 2nd hand box from the place where
I had the box before that reconditioned. He told me my 5th gear
issues (Which is my problem as I would have the lowest output
of the turbo guys so haven't busted low gears) are cause by oil
starvation and lack of oil changes in the gearbox which I must
admit was 2 years in the previous box. I am now running synthetic
oil and plan to change at least once a year and will see how that
goes.

Something for everyone else to consider.

Mal

BCNYA
21-06-2003, 09:01 AM
WHO'S RUNNING 6PSI ????

I have a T03/T04 Turbo running at 15PSI and have had it up as high as 20PSI, with out a problem!!!!!

So that is why i don't get how you blow so many boxes.

And YES my box is completly standard.[/quote]

Ok then!

Are we blind or something.

I guess u are just lucky then. Maybe u should supply that information in the first place.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Just because u have had a lucky ass run with 1 gearbox doesnt mean that we all do.

Good luck with the magic gearbox dude!

TURBO MAZDA
21-06-2003, 01:20 PM
I HAVE ON A NUMBER OF OCCASSIONS !!!

138 kw, thats prety good for that size turbo , my astina puts out 160 kw at the wheels on 15psi but i have a T03/T04 and a 3inch exaust + the rest of the crap

CHECK ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS TOPIC DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!

BCNYA
22-06-2003, 01:01 AM
I HAVE ON A NUMBER OF OCCASSIONS !!!

138 kw, thats prety good for that size turbo , my astina puts out 160 kw at the wheels on 15psi but i have a T03/T04 and a 3inch exaust + the rest of the crap

CHECK ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS TOPIC DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fair enough mate. All i am saying is that u are a lot luckier than the rest of us. Its just a f**ckin gearbox man.
160kw at the wheels is pretty good for a turbo of that size. I have got one probably 2 times as big as that and mine is only putting out 296hp at the wheels. I dont know what that is in kw.
Are your internals standard?

TURBO MAZDA
22-06-2003, 12:02 PM
Nope internals aren't standard

Forged pistons with 8.1 commpression. My motor will take 300 hp with out a problem but there is no need if you can't get the power to the floor.

Since the car was dynoed, i have also changed a couple of other things like the inlet manifold wich i noticed a big difference from.

You done any internal work ????

BCNYA
22-06-2003, 05:04 PM
Nah matey shes still internally standard.
The guy who dynoed it said he wont push it more than that for that reason.
If u dont mind me asking, how much did it cost to get the motor rebuilt?
If i keep the car i may look at getting it done.

TURBO MAZDA
22-06-2003, 10:36 PM
If i was you i wouldn't be running the car like that, Way to much power for standard pistons and commpression.

I cracked the standard piston in half on 15 psi !!!, But now it is built to last.

Cost wize , It is different for me, as the old man's a mechanic so he does all the building and installing, and i know machines and stuff . Ask rupewrencht about cost as his motor is preaty close to mine internaly now.

I think he said something about it being under $7500 for what was done to his, I think around $3500 - $4000 as there is a far bit of work involved.

BCNYA
23-06-2003, 08:40 AM
You are probably right. The motor seems fine at the moment but for how long? I think i will keep the motor in till it lets go and then go the rebuild. I think i will be keeping the car at this stage as it owes me so much $$$.

Thanks for the info though, and hope to talk to ya soon.
P.S Sorry bout the missunderstanding about the gearbox.

Cheers..... Paul.

TURBO MAZDA
23-06-2003, 04:08 PM
No Problem,

You done any cam work to your car ??

BCNYA
23-06-2003, 05:23 PM
Only vernier cam gears. Have u? Is there much to be gained from replacing them?

TURBO MAZDA
23-06-2003, 09:48 PM
I went to my machines 2 day and asked him about it.
he recommend me to a place called wadecams in melbourn also on the web at wadecams.com

he says that they are one of the best and have done the tests to prove that they work, cause there are alot of people that will machine your cams and they would be worse than standard.

I'am going to call them 2 morrow and find out more info, but he said that they are also expensive around $800 , don't no if that is for both or just 1.

BCNYA
23-06-2003, 09:54 PM
Will u let me know how ya go?

TURBO MAZDA
26-06-2003, 02:50 PM
Called the guy up from wadeCams in Vic, they want over a $1000 dollars 2 do them and even he said that it isn't worth it to do, best thing he said to do is use the standard cams just put adjustable cam gears.

Called surecams in QLD the guy goes to me that he can do a mild grind that will give more mid range power for $220 and to get alot more low end power you have to weld up the cams, this is about $1200 he said and it makes a big difference.

So who knows what to do !!! All i know is that i'am not going to spend $1200 on cams

Rupewrecht
26-06-2003, 03:11 PM
That was why i didn't. i think i was told about $1300 to get new cams that would take full advantage of the flow of the ported head.

maybe one day, but not anytime soon!

Cosmo Dude
26-06-2003, 08:22 PM
You could try www.racingbeat.com they are an Mx-5 supplier in the USA. Also ask Mazda if they sell billet cams, unground blanks and have them ground to your specs.

Rod