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ABC
19-06-2003, 01:02 PM
Hi all,

Got this from FordXR6Turbo.com. Anyone interested in an AstinaGT Cruise and blat around the track? I'm in if I can get my wheel bearings fixed in time.

ABC.

Sports fans,

After the interest in a track day and the success of the FordXR6Turbo Sydney Dyno Day, looks like a Wakefield Park track day will be happening Thursday 17th July.

A few things about the day;

1) It’s a public ‘open track’ day, meaning any man and his dog and turn up and race his car. Meaning, invite your friends.

2) The day will be a week day. All Wakefield open track days are weekdays. Once Wakefield Park come out with a calendar, the day will be posted in this thread.

3) When and How Much?

-$80.00 for the day
-$30.00 for a Wakefield Club comp License valid for 12 months
-Spectators free
-Helmet hire available for $20 per day with a $50 Deposit
-We’ll be starting the day at 9.00am, with scrutineering and then a compulsory driver’s briefing at 9.45. Don’t be late for the driver’s briefing, no driver will be allowed on the track until they have been briefed on the rules of the day by the chief steward, so if you’re late and miss the briefing, you’ll have to wait until the chief steward is free to give you the drill. And this might take a little while once the day kicks off and he becomes busy.
-Cars will be scrutineered for safety reasons.



4) How do you get to Wakefield?

-Take the M5 south of Sydney. Take the first turnoff to Goulburn.
-Once you’re on the main drag in Goulburn, you’ll pass a huge McDonald’s. Keep going.
-About 1km down the road from McDonald’s, is a Mobil Servo. It’s one of the few sources of PULP in Goulburn, so tank up. Turn left off the main drag at the Mobil servo.
-Keep going, past the railway station, until you see a concrete bridge going over the train tracks. There is also a small sign pointing the way to Wakefield. Turn left, across the bridge.
-Follow the road, and about 10 mins down the track, you’ll see Wakefield to your left! It’s about 2.5 hrs drive from Sydney’s North Shore, about 1.5 hrs from Campbelltown.

For Sydney people, we can convoy down.

5) What should I do to my car?

-Pump up the tyres to 38psi cold pressures. Road tyres don’t have the stiff sidewalls and super strong carcass of race tyres, so you need the extra air to give the sidewalls some support.
-Make sure there are NO loose belongings inside the car (road map, mobile, clublock, etc), which can turn in to a missile if you have an incident.
-Unless you have the Honda type which bolt on, take off your hubcaps, they tend to become lethal frisbees that embed themselves in people, or cars…
-Check your fluids before heading down (oil, coolant, auto tranny fuild, etc). If you run a V8, make sure your oil level is to the top mark of the dipstick. Likewise, have a look at your brake pads. Are they nearly worn out?
-Check your tyres. If they are close to bald (ie won’t pass a pink slip), you can be sure that you’ll see canvas by the end of the day. Check your engine bay. Is anything loose (eg. the battery?)
-Grab your wheels and give them a hard wiggle. Is there any bearing or suspension play?
-Make sure your brake lights and indicators are all working.


6) What about Brakes?

-A brake fluid bleed with good quality brake fluid (Castrol Ultra Stop in the red bottle is fine, but the fancy stuff, like HKS Super Dot 4, or Castrol SRF is better) will do wonders to avoid fade. If your brake fluid is more than a year old, this would be a very good idea.
-Most OEM standard pads are ok, but a performance pad is better, and any of the locally made heavy duty stuff (Bendix Ultimate, Metal King) is fine. But the cheapo $25 pads will practically catch fire at the end of the straight.
-The best way to manage your brakes is sensible driving. By the time your car has done 4 laps, the brakes are super hot. By the time you feel them fade, they are much, much more than overheated, and you’ll need 4 laps of cruising around to cool them down. Try to only belt it hard for 4 laps at a time, then do 2 laps to cool down. Then pull into the pits. That way, the heat buildup is never bad enough to really cook your brakes, and you shouldn’t have any problems with pad wear.

7) What about a Fire Extinguisher?

- Wakefield is not strict about fire extinguishers, and will still allow you to run if you don’t have one.

8) What should I wear? **IMPORTANT***

-Long sleeves and long pants made of a non-flammable material. By non-flammable, I mean, no nylon tracksuits, no polyester jumpers or nylon runners. Wool and cotton are ok. Jeans and a long sleeved tee shirt will be fine. Shoes must be closed, ie. no thongs or sandals.
-Don’t forget your helmet!

9) Passengers

-Passengers are allowed if they hold a current Wakefield License...
-And have filled in a passenger form on the day.

10) Anything else I should bring?

-If your friends have a Commodore, they will need to bring a spare little bottle of power steering fluid. They are known for spilling their power steering fluid out on a track, and it’s a good idea to bring some fluid for a midday top-up.
-A full tank of gas. Flat chat, a car can use up to 1 litre of fuel per lap. That goes equally for V8s or high revving 4s. Tank up at the Mobil servo in Goulburn, as it is a 30min round trip from Wakefield to get gas.
-Don’t forget your CAMS License if you have one!!

11) What is someone else is behaving like an idiot on the Day?

They will be marched off the premises by the circuit manager, and generally vilified as a total w*nker. Doing a burnout whilst in the pits or on the track will impress no one, and if you really annoy us, we’ll take a picture of you and post it up on the website…
-Responsible driving both in the pits and on the track are expected. By all means cane the daylights out of your car, but take it easy when in traffic.

http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/index.php?s=481802253bf849d310e7c5b3b9a3a481&act=Attach&type=post&id=24196

BigBoyLemonade
19-06-2003, 01:44 PM
I love that photo!

I am interested but I am saving for house so money is very very tight :(

MrShadow
19-06-2003, 03:28 PM
Yo, what's wrong with your wheel bearing? I had a chip in mine, easy fixed!

Little bit far for me to go, like to but....

KittyKatSmack
19-06-2003, 05:38 PM
I would love to come for a watch...

Don't think I can afford anything like a drive or passenger...

Will let Aaron know in case he wants to give the Sport Hatch a run for it's money.

Is anyone invited or just us?

Cheers and Go Andy, Go Andy, Go Andy Go!

ABC
20-06-2003, 01:11 PM
It appears to be open slather and anyone is welcome. Don't know how much track time we'll get if there's a ****eload of people there but it is a weekday which will keep the numbers down a little.

Wheel bearings have a rhythmic warble to them - left side is worse than right - and need to be replaced STILL. :(

Osprey06
20-06-2003, 04:24 PM
Andy,

I'm keen. I have some rear brake work to be done, new tyres and I think I need some new front shocks. Hopefully most of that is going to be looked at next week, so assuming nothing else goes wrong...very keen 8)

Last time (and the only time) I was there was with some fordlaser.com people. There weren't many of us (maybe 8 cars??) and we did two groups - faster, not so fast. It was fun, we didn't really come across others out on the track much and everyone drove sensibly.

Thanks for pointing this out.
Regards,
James

ABC
16-07-2003, 10:30 AM
Slight change of plans for anyone that is interested - Mark and possibly Aaron.

The track day on Thursday is a "no speed limit - cars only" day and will probably attract a ****eload of people. on Friday there is a "no speed limit - street cars and Go Karts" day which shouldn't have very many people or at least less than Thursday so that's when I'm going. We won't have to deal with all sorts of race car crap either I would think.

The deal is cars get 20 minutes each hour with up to 15 cars on the track at each time. Scruitineering from 8am, track is open from 9am to 4pm.

My wheel bearings are fixed and with a replacement steering tie rod end that we found the thread was fubar and a wheel alignment this morning I'm good to go. I have a mate who is bringing his 1600 rally car as well which should be fun.

Plan to take lots of photos and videos on my camera so will let you all know how It all goes!

Aaron
16-07-2003, 01:29 PM
I won't be running the Clio (as it's For Sale) but will see if the Kitty wants to cruise up for an oogle ;)

Shoudl get some pics and stuff ;)

Osprey06
16-07-2003, 07:28 PM
I won't be showing up as I have been asked to work (the first time they've rung me since first semester of uni began (feb) - always the way :roll: ).

I went down last sunday for the 1/8th mile drags, however, so that some of the octane out of my system... (clocked a best of 10.4, @ 108kph with .8 reaction time)

Cheers,
James

ABC
21-07-2003, 03:18 PM
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Grins all round. Had an absolutely awesome day.
Our idea about going on the street car and go kart day was a good one. Apparently there were 63 sign ons for the thursday open track session!! On friday there were 3 street cars and about 12 go karts! Had the track all to ourselves and had a ball!

Brakes weren't an issue and didn't have a hint of fade. There's only really three breaking points on the track so they didn't get an enormous workout - hardly any dust on the wheels!

Tyres on the other hand are now looking decidedly worn. The left front tyre got a BIG workout though interestingly the outside tread block looks worn but not really badly but the next block section in is very heavily worn but tyres were 30,000 ks old anyway.

Interesting things I found out.....
my car has an alloy spare (already knew that but it surprised the other guys)
The spare tyre is original and has never been put on (its even stuck to the sound deadening pad underneath it!)
Front wheel drive cars can get very very sideways :D Third gear almost full throtle left hand corner at about 5500rpm then off the gas and into a tight right hander can get the back sliding nicely! (only did it once but still buzzing from 3/4 opposite lock experience which I pulled off I might add :D :D )
ABS can be a bit disconcerting on a racetrack at times.
Off camber corners are a pain in the ass.

And of course there are pics!
http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/18668/p/396833_4249185377512200046_vl.jpg
Travelling past the camera near the end of the straight at 150-160km/h

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/18668/p/396832_588068321599642038_vl.jpg
Mutherfu*ker off camber corner (very hard to get right)

http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/18668/p/396834_2542857861136194037_vl.jpg
Working that left front wheel hard at the top of the circuit

My mate with the Datsun 1600 rally car was smokin' the thing all round the track and because it has a locked diff and its a rally car (and he's a maniac) it was sideways all over the shop - until he lost all compression (rings are shot).

Only other car there was a 99 WRX with a guy driving like a granny so I was the fastest car on the track! (stroke that ego).

Would highly recommend it if you can afford the $110 for wakefield licence and track entry and wear on tyres.

Strapped my digital camera to the rear view mirror and aimed it out the windscreen so got some awesome footage but its like 15meg so its a bit hard to post up anywhere.

KittyKatSmack
28-07-2003, 04:23 PM
w00t Andy!!!!

Wish I had been there matey!!!!!

*big smiles*

Next time!

:wink: 8) :D 8)

ABC
29-07-2003, 08:28 AM
cheers KittyKat. Definately next time - I'm still buzzing weeks later! :D

jcywong
21-09-2003, 03:26 AM
for the track we need to pump up to around 38 for non racing tires
what is racing tires? i got bridgestone GIII do I need to pump up to that??

ABC
22-09-2003, 10:56 AM
I pumped mine up to 40 (cold) before I left Canberra and then adjusted them once we were there to about 36 (warm) because the track is at a different altitude and once the tyres are warm the air pressure is different too.

For track work its advisable to pump your tyres up a fair bit to stop the sidewalls from rolling excessively during cornering but there comes a point where you can't stop rolling entirely. Have you seen the pictures of V8 Supercars where the camera is on the side of the car looking at the tyres going around corners? scary stuff!

Tyres with too low inflation can be a big problem. I did a defensive driving course and they showed us a skid mark from a falcon with tyres inflated at 25psi. There were two black lines from the sidewalls of the tyres and nothing in the middle. Went to the servo and pumped them up to 34 and did it again and there was a single thick black line about half the distance. More tyre in contact with the road = more friction = less stopping distance.

Its the same type of equation with cornering. :D

bRaDiNhO
22-09-2003, 12:21 PM
Andy, u planning on going again? I'm up for it, and i know another 1-2 that will come.

~Brad~

ABC
22-09-2003, 01:03 PM
Definately but can't afford it in the next couple of months - Sailing season has started and I'm madly saving to go to Thailand for the World Championships in March.

Need a new set of pads before I go again too. Just rock up on a Open Practice/No speed limit day and go crazy!

Track days are listed on their website: www.wakefieldpark.com.au

UNV-323
25-09-2003, 03:02 AM
Hey, when u were there b4 did u see the black type r with CAMBO plates? I know that dude. Hes from here (Tamworth). I would love to hav a go but i wanna get some wheels and stuff first....

bRaDiNhO
25-09-2003, 09:21 AM
As he said there was only a WRX and a (Escort?). What u want new wheels for on the track? You'll eat up your tyres. U interested in going UNV? Anyone else?

UNV-323
25-09-2003, 11:54 AM
I dont know. I dont really wana waste my brand new tyres when i get them... i might have to wait for another time. When r u thinking of going? Hmm...I would love to go but i think ill have to put it off for a little while. Im going to newcastle next week to go out and go for a cruise down there. Hopefully tomorrow ill be 2inches lower and riding on my 16s!!!!

bRaDiNhO
25-09-2003, 01:31 PM
hey cool post a pic when its done. Make sure u get a receipt, and before u drive too far away from spring place make sure wheel alignment is all good and also that there is no clunking sounds when u go over speed humps etc. My struts were hitting something and had to get it adjusted.

Going to track whenever its a coolish day. I find our car goes a bit gutless in hot weather!

UNV-323
26-09-2003, 01:46 AM
Hey. I know this isnt really about the cruise. but about how quick do your cars do 0 - 100km/h??? Just a rough time. mine is somewhere around 10 seconds. Is an SP that much different when it comes to performance?

bRaDiNhO
26-09-2003, 09:57 AM
SP was about 9.0. In Holland there was a time posted of 8.1 which is rubbish, but check out MOTOR from early 90's and they got 9.14 from memory. MOTOR load the car up with two passengers, half tank of fuel and 2 bags or similar to make conditions realistic as well. V6 was mid 8's, BA 1.8 was highish 9s in manual.

Smikey
01-10-2003, 12:26 PM
haha! went to wakefield yesterday 30th September, twas very mad
Although some surprising astina dynamics. Under hardbraking into the first hairpin (which is downhill), the whole cars weight is shifted to the front and with enough turning begins to want to oversteer/spin<-- :oops: didn't make that mistake again. Very cool experience in learning about your car, and other peoples if u have friends that let u drive theirs :wink:

bRaDiNhO
01-10-2003, 05:45 PM
How many people were there? How long did u get on track? Any probs/ incidents on the day? What cars were there? DETAILS! :P

~Brad~

Smikey
02-10-2003, 01:48 AM
Twas a open track day, started at 9pm, finished about 4pm
Cost was same as previously stated.
I went there in with a n/a S13, a Renault Clio Sport, WRX (frog eye), Integra type R. Left my house at 5:30am, and got on the way after a few delays and traffic onto the M5. When we got there there were PLENTY of S15's, one had the money for some slicks...bastard, a 180sx which was being hammered, an old skool 325 (supercharged i think cos it was damn fast and had 1.16 lap times). There was an absolute beast of a monaro, C8 supercharged with octane boost and a NOS tank somewhere in the car. He claimed he was gonna use it but the track really didn't allow for it. He drove like a maniac though, kinda no respect overtaking and blocking driving lines without people realising. Also an mx5, a cappacino (those little turbo things), S14 or two, old skool porsche etc. Probably 20 cars there at the most, so pretty empty but good conversation during the breaks.

Near the beginning also had to make way for Formula 3 cars which were lapping around. Some guys tryin to get jobs as formula 3 car drivers we assumed, one of them ran into the dirt eheheh, but that was a small delay.

Only real incident was when i was passenger in the WRX, the guy driving was a friend of the owner, and on the 2nd lap just understeered it badly at the first hairpin, hit the ripple strip, ran into the dirt did a bit of the old bumpidy bump through the dirt and back onto the track to realise a *clunking* noise as the tires rotated :oops: tire blown we though. Never seen a WRX with a safety tire on before how cute. Anyway the tire seemed to have just been knocked off the rim, they pumped it up and it kinda clicked back into place all of a sudden and didn't lose pressure, so... moral of the story, close to max pressure tires = good for track, also ripple strips = bad to drive on.

There were so many sessions, and so much time on the track, honestly i was kinda tired of it all by 4pm, drove back, felt very sleepy and fatigued, but otherwise really really awesome. Need that wheel balance now and new fronts badly.