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AstinaBoiV6
31-10-2006, 11:08 PM
hey gang im organising joint movember cruise for AGT and PGA (pulsar group of australia). Im quite aware that ryan has a christmass party lined up for either the 2nd or 3rd of november but never the less if there is interest we can def have another cruise either before that or after but i dont think 2 many people will want to go 2 close to chrissy.

however for those that will want to participate heres the rough idea at this time.

1)meetup at local spots then big group meet at springwood maccas at 10am
2)drive down to coast either surfers,burleigh,goldy.
3)If there is a request we can stop at hinze dam or somewhere there for pics.
4)get to coast and hit the beach regular activities such as beach soccer/rugby/wahoo/girls can tan lol.
5)have lunch somewhere there
6)Take some sweet snapshots of the cars etc check out other members rides and fun car related talking lol..
7)Do whatever after its up 2 the people there on the day we can either go home or hang out n go dinner.

So although the normal cruises are mt neebo or northside this is a fun day cruise where can can hit the beach and sun for a little while and generally rellax. for those with kiddys you can bring them along as were not flogging the cars so they wont be bouncing around in the back.

Oh and ryan if you want to have like a combined cruise up northside or wherever yours is organised as i havent seen final details y not make it a joint cruise like the 'DA" cruise but make it the "pulstina" cruise :p . we can do the cruise and then later on the agt ppl can head back to yours and we can send the pulsar group home. im sure they can organise a after event 4 themselves. pending how many show up....

PS: this will be astinaboiv6's or -=Andy=- (pga name) first official cruise for both clubs so show up dammit :D

chicaboo
31-10-2006, 11:12 PM
Q: Is this a "drivers" cruise or "posurés" cruise? Just wondering, as one of those reasons is why I don't go on OMC cruises.

Pulsars are better competition to the Astina than friggin Rollas anyhow... :D

Gav.

AstinaBoiV6
31-10-2006, 11:15 PM
Q: Is this a "drivers" cruise or "posurés" cruise? Just wondering, as one of those reasons is why I don't go on OMC cruises.

Pulsars are better competition to the Astina than friggin Rollas anyhow... :D

Gav.


yes i agree id rather keep away from rolla owners, i know 1 and he was a total wank lol. :D

Not sure how to take poseures into context gav but since i have never met any of the pga ppl i cant really say. not even sure they will be interested but i have checked and they have no cruises planned in QLD thread so y not do 1...

im hoping i find them as helpful, funny and kind as the rest of the AGT members :o and hopefully we will just have a good day with other car enthusiasts not wanks.. :p

PS: if i have no interest ryan can a poor ol lonly N15 join the rest for initial D/watever else is happening?? ;)

chicaboo
31-10-2006, 11:45 PM
Not sure how to take poseures into context gavWell, posurés cruise is driving slow with windows down and stereos up along the spit and then stopping in the heat of the day. A drivers cruise may involve a beautiful blend of blurred green and black scenery. ;)

AstinaBoiV6
01-11-2006, 12:05 AM
A drivers cruise may involve a beautiful blend of blurred green and black scenery. ;)

yer precisley thats what i want although my windows may be down coz of the heat :D we can go mt tamborine or hinze dam/valley but i thought since its so hot y not hit up some cool water like the coast or even a lake would b cool... any 1 know some swimmin holes?? :p

SILVABULLIT
03-11-2006, 11:03 PM
Q: Is this a "drivers" cruise or "posurés" cruise? Just wondering, as one of those reasons is why I don't go on OMC cruises.

Pulsars are better competition to the Astina than friggin Rollas anyhow... :D

Gav.


True mate Pulsars are better matched to the Mazda's in age and power. Corolla's are prolly a bit unfair with newer technology and more power. Enjoy the "SR20's are the best engine ever made debate" :p :p :p :p :p

AstinaBoiV6
03-11-2006, 11:07 PM
SR20's are the best engine ever made :p :p :p :p :p

haha well boy you are just telling the truth there. :D

"the check engine light came on today so i went outside and opened the bonnet. To my relief the engine was still there." hehe had to flog that from other forum.

chicaboo
03-11-2006, 11:10 PM
True mate Pulsars are better matched to the Mazda's in age and power. Corolla's are prolly a bit unfair with newer technology and more power. Enjoy the "SR20's are the best engine ever made debate"Exactly my point SBS, for the age and the technology they are on on a more equal footing. The pulsars still have a better motor, but I am on a mission to show what a 1.8 can do as I progress. But I've always prefered the FJ20 over the SR20 myself.

Gav.

project.r.racing
04-11-2006, 06:06 PM
FJ20 is better than SR20 - strong crank and rods :D

on topic - joint agt + pga cruise sounds fine, all the slow pulstarts can bugger off just before my place.

ryan

AstinaBoiV6
04-11-2006, 06:20 PM
except mine rite rite :p

chicaboo
04-11-2006, 06:35 PM
Who cares, you've got a CA16... :p

AstinaBoiV6
04-11-2006, 06:59 PM
Who cares, you've got a CA16... :p

your point :cool:

SILVABULLIT
04-11-2006, 08:01 PM
haha well boy you are just telling the truth there. :D

"the check engine light came on today so i went outside and opened the bonnet. To my relief the engine was still there." hehe had to flog that from other forum.


Personally the SR20 isn't the best engine ever made. I would say that Honda has prolly got that tag well and trully sown up. Take your pick of a number of their performance engines that make an aspirated SR20 look pretty ordinary.

Astinaboi you can qoute me out of context any time you care to but as far as I"m concerned Honda has and always will be the supreme Japanese car and engine manufacturer. Better than Nissan,toyota,subaru and even to your surprise Mazda.

Others may come close but they need a bit of help from some good ol' forced induction. ;)

AstinaBoiV6
04-11-2006, 08:21 PM
i agree with u silva hondas are the way of the future and past in technology for a car at the afordable price range. way before any other manufacturers honda offered power everything. the accord has always maintained a touch of luxury and the s2000 is dynamic with its n/a engine capable of keeping up with the big boys on the track.

however i will quote u hehehe..

back on topic the cruise will probably be part of Ryans end on year cruise except the pulsar ppl will go do their own thing afterwards.

chicaboo
05-11-2006, 01:52 PM
I think the PGA cruise should be separate from Ryan's Christmas cruise pleasems. I just think it's better to have the usual tight little group together to talk smack and stuff without too much else happening.

Honda = Performance
Mazda = Styling
Toyota = Reliability
Nissan = WTF? :p

AstinaBoiV6
05-11-2006, 02:48 PM
Nissan = WTF? :p

hmm well according to top gear the skyline dominates all japanese cars in performance, handeling, styling. I just had a quick thought and realised that nissan produces more sports cars than any other manufacturer. eg.

300zx tt
skyline (all different series not to mention GtR)
Pulsar GTi-R (rival of familia)
silvia sr20det
200sx
350z
180sx
pulsar SSS Almera

and thats just the basic models there are alot of other turbo cars from nissan out there.

Looking at honda we have:
prelude vtiR (still not really a sports more of a luxury/sports)
integra type R
s2000
nsx
civic typeR

mazda:
rx7
familia
mps
maybe sp23 and sp20 but they not really sports cars.
cosmo
mx5 - tho stock they are lacking
mx6 - same as mx5 cant really call it a sports
rx8

hmm cant b bothered goin into other manufacturers but hey add to the list. :p

chicaboo
05-11-2006, 03:39 PM
Once upon a time, but what do each of those manufacturers currently have on the market? hmmm? :)

OK, you got me, Nissan = Renault! :p

CRUISE!

project.r.racing
06-11-2006, 12:17 AM
maybe sp23 and sp20 but they not really sports cars.not that i wanna get in to a arguement about it, but neither is the pulsar SSS Almera a sports car also. budget performance car at best.

ryan

AstinaBoiV6
06-11-2006, 10:34 AM
hehe il have to agree with you ryan on that 1. However what would be the criteria for classification of a sports car??

according to topgear the pegeaut 106 GTi (or however u spell it) was classed as 2nd best in handeling in the world when matched up to a Acura Nsx, ferarri 350, 550 (i think), lotus elise, m3 BMW, 3000gt, skyline 32, vw golf VR6, and some others. so based on those results labelling a car a sports car it would have to rate high im guessing in performance, handeling, and .....???????

project.r.racing
06-11-2006, 10:43 AM
example:-
stock astina = family car
my astina = performance car
lantis a spec = sports car

only a few changes turn a car into a performance car, just depends on what the individual classes as a sports/performance/race car i guess.

ryan

AstinaBoiV6
06-11-2006, 11:49 AM
im talking stock... because your explanation can make a hyundai a performance/sports car.

chicaboo
06-11-2006, 12:39 PM
im talking stock... because your explanation can make a hyundai a performance/sports car.That is exactly right, do you think Holden and Ford build a V8 Supercar??? No, they go and buy a dunga and mod it up to the eyebrows, and from that is born a RACE car, not just a sports car. Same goes for any GT production car too. So yes, you can take a Lada and make it a Sports/Race car. Stock means nothing...

project.r.racing
06-11-2006, 12:47 PM
then include a nissan S13 CA18DE, S14 SR20DE, R32 SR20, R33 RB20DE in the non-sports standard car listing also. the S13 had 94kW at the fly, shocking handling, bad toe problems etc - but see one today, the theres a list of parts to get in going/drifting good. :D

man, a sports car is what you make it. sometimes you buy it factory and it goes good. sometimes you build it to go good... izusu gemini's are a classic example.

astina's ($8,000) will out handle wrx's ($22,000) if you spend $2000 on the suspension.

ryan

on topic - joint cruise sounds good to me but since there is 2 mazda/honda cruises within the next 4 weekends, i'd suggest organising PGA to come along to these.

AstinaBoiV6
06-11-2006, 12:50 PM
i would call a stock clubsport a sports car... and a xr6 turbo a sports car.... a 34 GTR a sportscar and a rx8 a sportscar :D .... what i was saying gav was that im comparing production line cars that come out from factory as they are being labled as sports cars. I know you can make anything into a sportscar but thats besides the point i was trying to create.

Any joe blow can put a turbo on a VL and say its a sports car but the only way you can really compare it is from the parts the manufacturer actually put on the car. Those Supercars are all aftermarket pretty much so how can you compare them to say a drag tunned car that is also all aftermarket.

The manufacturer stock comparison is the only real way to compare what a car should be classified as. Dont make me bring out the 121 turbo.heheh soo sports there.. I hope you understand where im going with this...

ON TOPIC: Hey ryan im not getting 2 much interest on the Poohsar forums about a joint cruise.. tehy are not very enthusiastin on cruises from what i can see... i think like one of the qld mods wants to come and maybe 1 or 2 more.

Cant tag on the "DA" cruise thers alredy honda and mazda and nizda aint a goeer hehe.. As for the chrissy cruise il come along to that if its ok with you since ur the organizer type man... :)

project.r.racing
06-11-2006, 01:29 PM
Poohsar don't you mean pullstarts? damn lawn-mower sized CA16 haha.

i'd say come to the DA cruise, cos there's gonna be heaps of honda there also.

ryan