OMG teh Copz are everywarez!!!

[Rupewrecht]

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/02/20/1171733764512.html

MAURICE John has learned a useful lesson — don't sing when you get a canary.

The car-crazy 22-year-old from St Albans collected a police "major defect notice" in South Yarra that deemed his Nissan 200 SX convertible unroadworthy. The yellow notice — known as a "canary" — was stuck to his windscreen by Acting Sergeant James Robbins of the Stonnington traffic management unit.

John got pinged for two bald tyres at 11pm on August 12 last year at a roadblock in Chapel Street, but Acting Sergeant Robbins generously gave him an hour to get home rather than have his car towed away.

John stupidly didn't take up the chance, choosing instead to drive on and party on.

Unbeknown to police, John was a disqualified probationary driver who gave a false name.

Two days later, under his user-name MR-GTIR/S15, John shared his Saturday night experience with users of the nissansilvia.com car club internet chat room and boasted of his getaway.

He wrote: "Saturday night, cruising through Chaps looking for a car park so I can go 2 Chasers! The usual cops that are always kickin back in front of Chasers/KFC, wasting taxpayers money … "I got done for having 2 semi-racing slicks on the back which were a little bit bald! Motherf---ers. It was 11pm. The officer gave me till midnight to get the car home or it would have to be towed! I tried negotiating with him 2 let me drive it tomorrow, but didn't happen.

"Anyways they let me go. I was more pissed off that I had 2 go home & get another car when Im in front of my destination.

"So, instead I go around the block & park in the multi-level car park behind KFC … Walked straight in and rocked all night!"

John signed off by revealing that he peeled off the notice and "then busted home!"

It was revealed yesterday in Melbourne Magistrates Court that among the visitors to the chat room was the diligent Acting Sergeant Robbins, who regularly scans such sites as part of the unit's investigative work.

When John pleaded guilty to five offences — including two charges of driving while disqualified — his lawyer Tony Danos said Acting Sergeant Robbins recognised his client "as the one he pulled up the night before".

Mr Danos said John should have known better, but decided to "have an evening out and boast about it on the website, which brought him undone".

Magistrate Angela Bolger said driving while disqualified was regarded as a contempt of the law and a prison sentence was mandatory for a second offence.

John was jailed for one month, the term suspended for 12 months, fined $400 and had his licence cancelled for a year.

"We all await with interest the posting tonight on the web," Ms Bolger commented.

John, who regards himself as a "spirited driver" rather than a hoon, later told The Age he was "shattered".

"There's a lot of people who will say bad luck, but (Acting Sergeant Robbins) got me off the road so, well done, he caught me," he said.

Acting Sergeant Robbins told The Age the unit monitored car club websites as an intelligence-gathering exercise to follow car modifications, user conversations and to "monitor specific individuals".

Asshat.

[coley]

omg they could be watching now *looks around*...........goes and hides in the corner

[AstinaBoiV6]

thats just gay.. why do they need to monitor modifications. this is just getting ridiculous. im sick of cops in qld hiding behind bushes to catch speeders. i liked it when i was in NSW and they told u they were using cameras. way better. they should stick to doing their jobs not pestering every1 everywhere. the whole cop thing just turned into a whole sneaky and deceptive cesspool since a few years ago.

if cops are reading this well.... I have been involved in and will be involved in multiple illegal driving offences. but thats just me typing it. who knows it might not even be me. just because i say it dosnt make it true i could be talking crap. so come arrest me piggys.. :p

[Cosmo Dude]

'John' is a retard of the heighest order.
Not only do the police monitor sites like ours but so do insurance companies and anyone with an interest.

It aint rocket surgery

[Savvyfx]

Yeah, you bag them until you need them. These laws are here for the safety of others. I think the cops did a good job.

They need to monitor modifications so that the cars people drive at high speed aren't unsafe for the millions of others that use the roads.

[skitz]

i know it isnt really that relivant but have a look at this

http://www.caradvice.com.au/1560/lotus-exige-nsw-police-car/

" “There is no doubt that the Lotus will be highly visible and generate public interest, it will assist us operationally by promoting our road safety crime prevention messages to a targeted group of offenders.”
“Giving youth the chance to realise that police are real people and have a job to do is an important part of our work, and if the Lotus can help us achieve that then it will be an asset during its time with us,” Superintendent Dave Darcy"



" “The Lotus Exige will help break down barriers between our officers and youth in the area, it gives them a discussion point and a way of breaking the ice. We have a large proportion of car enthusiasts in the area and it is a challenge to influence them to drive safely.

Whilst its easy to give this group tickets to slow them down we would prefer to influence young drivers to take care on the roads. I see that the use of the new Lotus Exige police vehicle will break down barriers allowing us to get our safety messages through.” said Superintendent Darcy."

[chicaboo]

A Lotus Exige? What a splendid use of tax payers money... Let's get Bentley's for our politicians too, it's a tough job, and we need to relate to them more as real ppl... :rolleyes:

[skitz]

A Lotus Exige? What a splendid use of tax payers money... Let's get Bentley's for our politicians too, it's a tough job, and we need to relate to them more as real ppl... :rolleyes:

hey man if u read the site u will reallize that it didnt come from tax's


I thought the FPV Typhoon police cars were enough, but no, Lotus of all manufacturers, has donated a Lotus Exige to the NSW Police department (are they hiring? Cause I’d love to drive around in an Exige all day).

[chicaboo]

I donated $130 and 3 points when a stupid ignorant prick was shooting a car over and behind me on a hill, so aren't I wonderful???
Whatever, I guess I fund all sorts of BS directly OR INDIRECTLY that I don't agree with...

I am by no way against police that do their job to the letter as I'm expected to in my workplace. However pricks that make **** up to meet their quota aren't worth pissing on.

EDIT: Upon reading, I found the following statements:
"The Lotus Exige, a lightweight, high performance car will be used by Bankstown Local Area Command for a number of community policing roles over the next six months, including most importantly, helping to build better relations between police and local performance car enthusiasts and youth."

We then see a picture of it being used on the side of the road to pull ppl over for some reason *cough, hasseling ppl cause they've got shiny wheels and car is lowered! cough*. I hate having pedestrian hazards created by police as part of their regular community service duties...

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/lotusexigepolicecar2.jpg

"This is no toy car, the The police Lotus Exige features full NSW Police livery and is equipped with a removable emergency light system that can be used when it is at particular operations such as random breath test and radar sites throughout the Bankstown Local Area Command." Oh, there we go. While they've got the car for the 6 months it is on LOAN to them, it's going to be used for revenue raising *cough, hasseling ppl cause they've got shiny wheels and car is lowered! cough*, Thank you...

Someone please tell me how this car will be seen as promoting a stronger bond between car enthusiasts while it's still used for the above? I didn't bother to quote how the article also focused on the performance of the vehicle compared to their V8s, which was obviously a consideration as part of their community bonding requirements.

[Beckie]

thats just gay.. why do they need to monitor modifications. this is just getting ridiculous. im sick of cops in qld hiding behind bushes to catch speeders. i liked it when i was in NSW and they told u they were using cameras. way better. they should stick to doing their jobs not pestering every1 everywhere. the whole cop thing just turned into a whole sneaky and deceptive cesspool since a few years ago.

if cops are reading this well.... I have been involved in and will be involved in multiple illegal driving offences. but thats just me typing it. who knows it might not even be me. just because i say it dosnt make it true i could be talking crap. so come arrest me piggys.. :p

hey dude i think that's the wrong attitude to take...
I agree with I don't like police hiding behind bushes etc to catch you out, and i agree that a lot of the places they hide aren't actually going to stop accidents...but yea..still the wrong attitude to be posting up in my opinion.

Yeah, you bag them until you need them. These laws are here for the safety of others. I think the cops did a good job.

They need to monitor modifications so that the cars people drive at high speed aren't unsafe for the millions of others that use the roads.


in agreeance with this - sure a lot of the qld ppl have seen me drive and probably cringe when i get behind the wheel...but still. when you need a cop, you're more than happy to see them. deep down i don't think they're as bad as everyone makes out... and in this instance, i think they did the right thing...who the f*ck would post up something like that!!! it just has TOOL written all over it seriously.

[skitz]

its to get them more down to earth and feel what we feel etc and yes if we are braking the law they will still book us because WE ****ed up they are just doing there jobs NO ONE made those ppl ILLEGALLY lower there cars or put ILEGALL sized rims on it. it is there own fault if they get court. if no one broke the law then there would be no cops.
i think it is cool. lol if i got pulled over by it while there were walking around my car taking details etc i would be walking around there car :P

u really have somthink about authority figures gav :P

[chicaboo]

its to get them more down to earth and feel what we feel etc and yes if we are braking the law they will still book us because WE ****ed up they are just doing there jobs NO ONE made those ppl ILLEGALLY lower there cars or put ILEGALL sized rims on it. it is there own fault if they get court. if no one broke the law then there would be no cops.
i think it is cool. lol if i got pulled over by it while there were walking around my car taking details etc i would be walking around there car :P

u really have somthink about authority figures gav :PKyle, the day I got a LEGAL 35mm lowering, LEGAL 3.5" tip (passed every defect attempt), LEGAL 17" wheels and tyres, I became a target for police! I did not change as a person, I just tried to beautify my car... How do you reckon I felt about that? And they tell me an expensive car on loan for 6 months that WILL be used to raise revenue is going to strengthen bonds with the car enthusiasts community? I don't think so Tim...

Yes I do have issues with self appointed authority figures. If you work for the government you are a public servant, not a public authority. That does not take any respect away from the good work they do, only the actions and attitude some direct at me and others for trying to have a more unique car do that... Atleast it's not all of them, but a staggering amount unfortunately.

[skitz]

okay point made i can see where ur coming from there

[chicaboo]

okay point made i can see where ur coming from thereCheers cuz, I just get frustrated being blatently followed and then pulled over to lose 15 minutes of my time so they can go around my car actively trying to defect me. :( I could understand if a bro went past with a Pssssht and big gay GT wing with the car obviously lower than legal road height that has many illegal visual modifications...

I truely feel in the scope of works that the police can provide to the community, hasseling ppl with legal modifcaions is the greastest waste of resources available to us. Gee, it almost seems more police are dedicated to revenue raising via hidden speed cameras and trying to defect obviously legal cars, than are allocated to patrolling the cities and high crime areas for our safety or responding to emergency or criminal reports (I live in Logan, I KNOW!)...

Please don't incorrectly associate my comments with "police have difficult jobs and they see horrible accidents", etc... That IS NOT what I am having an objection with. If their focus is truely on road safety (in this case), I completely disagree with the methods they use to fullfill their goals and objectives... Why do I still see dungas driving around with wobbly wheels and loose panels blowing smoke? Thanks to the low price of cars that's not as bad as it used to be... But I don't think 3 year old cars with light legal mods should be targeted like they are.

[89sp1.8]

meh,police are just like everyone else..its just another job..just like any other job,there are going to be a couple that dont do there job properly or are a/holes..
but in my opinioin its not fare to be a cop hater..i mean for eg. im a tiler..now if someone got there house tiled by some dodgy tiler that ripped them off and didnt do the job properly..is it fair of them to start hating on all tilers?

i have had incidents where i have talked to real nice down to earth police..and others where they werent..
etc etc..just my 2c

[Hebz]

I think its pretty simple - If you wanna go hundreds of kilometres ova tha speed limit - thats cool - but keep it to tha track. Its much more fun and its designed fo that. Means your a better driver than if you can "DOOO A BURNOUT".
It might feel cool to you now . . . . but when you kill my four year old sister - then you'll finally be tha big man you've always wanted to be.
Cop should check sites fo wankas like that - I mean its like a free ticket.

Having said that - cops that pull Peepz ova fo having complety legal modifed cars?? Wtf - there is nothing wrong wit enjoyin tha look and style of cars and enjoying cars in general. If your not breaking tha law then you should'nt be pulled ova because of Prejudice. Do cops goto peoples houses just coz they have put new roofing on? Nope - but practically its tha same thing - not exactly tha same - that would be a bit rich - but you get tha idea.

I dunno - it might just be too late fo me - i might need a coffee

Maybe cops should just be prejudice to Commadore drivers . . . . :P :P

I told you it was simple - So simple that Rupe summed it up in 1 word - Asshat.

Heb

[Aaron]

Having said that - cops that pull Peepz ova fo having complety legal modifed cars?? Wtf - there is nothing wrong wit enjoyin tha look and style of cars and enjoying cars in general. If your not breaking tha law then you should'nt be pulled ova because of Prejudice. Do cops goto peoples houses just coz they have put new roofing on? Nope - but practically its tha same thing - not exactly tha same - that would be a bit rich - but you get tha idea.

I guess the problem for the cops is "what's legal" when it cruises past?

Oddly I've never had a problem with modified cars and cops - but I can understand why they'd be looking at forums, especially when you read/hear about some things people do. There's plenty of US cases I've read about where people take their road car and physically remove most of the metal crash structures etc to drop weight, bolt in insanely powered motors and don't even look at the brakepads etc.

Without a doubt there's some real f&^%$head enthusiasts outthere, and yes there's some cops that aren't the best, but considering they have a job to uphold a community standard (if we want that changed we need to play politics, not just complain on forums) which defines our hobby/interest as being likely to fall foul of the law then it's pretty much to be expected is it not?

No different to racial profiling really.

A.

[AstinaBoiV6]

I Agree with Gav... Cops should be more concerned with getting the rust buckets off the road and patrolling the streets looking for suspicious characters than worrying about my 17" mags which are exact rolling diameter to standard 14".

No one start on exhausts lol because i have been pulled over by a cop before and he mentioned the exhaust and then a big old V8 went past with that VROOM GLUG GLUG noise it makes and when i asked him about why thats legal he said its factory.. obviously he don't know sh*t..

i understand if you're a dick like beckie said then u should get caught but if you're just beautifying your car like the rest of us or hell putting a few performance parts on its because you get the joy from doing it and having something you know is fast but not necessarily use for illegal activities.

And yer that lotus is just a big waste of time.. ooo a lotus wow im impressed the boundaries have just been broken between me and police... :p Whats next, a undercover supra??? :D

[skitz]

And yer that lotus is just a big waste of time.. ooo a lotus wow im impressed the boundaries have just been broken between me and police... :p Whats next, a undercover supra??? :D

i thought they already did that sort of thing undercover XR6-T, WRX's etc...

[bourbon]

in melbourne they have anythin under cover...stuff like wrx sti, mr2 and all the japstuff...and they get the race them and then pull up behind ya and get ya for racing...sneaky but in a way its for the better...

[AstinaBoiV6]

what thats just crazy....

hmm have you heard the gov now wants to start undercover BG's :p

[bourbon]

what thats just crazy....

hmm have you heard the gov now wants to start undercover BG's :p

i hope mine can be one next year :D hahaha

[Rupewrecht]

i know there's an unmarked R34 Skyline in NSW somewhere..but it's only a GTS - and auto!

[Hebz]

No different to racial profiling really.

A.

:P :P Haha

True - And just like racial profiling - theres always two sides to tha story.

Now we just need to come up wit a name fo this predjudice :P :P

Heb

[AstinaBoiV6]

ithought it was called "RICER" :D

[Hebz]

Ricer-ism :P :P


Haha

Heb

[DrSilver]

Do you guys think cops are racist?? I reckon they should recruit people of various race to join the police force!

[Beckie]

i understand if you're a dick like beckie said then u should get caught but if you're just beautifying your car like the rest of us or hell putting a few performance parts on its because you get the joy from doing it and having something you know is fast but not necessarily use for illegal activities.




i guess i'll learn more about that later in the year when my car starts to get beautified....

*dances* she has opel badges now...well on the back anyway...front grill next to come ;)

[zappy65]

this absolutely shats me off to the max....the one thing that we like doing is bad for the community...shat chat rooms arent even safe anymore...im so sick of the cops in Australia period...im the same with keeping racing on the track but this is ridiculous...so much for having privacy, and advertising our rides...no wonder so many people go underground...police are there own worst enemy and i hope they read this...sori bout the long messege

[Cincinnatus]

Do you guys think cops are racist?? I reckon they should recruit people of various race to join the police force!

In the aftermath of the Cronulla riots, i got pulled over in Maroubra while driving with a friend in the car, they frisked me and searched the car and when he looked at my license and saw my polish sir name he apologised and wished me well on my way. (I'll mention that i look of middle eastern origin, luckily, I'm not, he he)

[EddyEdwards]

Theres a stock looking blue SS Commodore around here that's an unmarked cop... kinda stupid that we know he's an unmarked cop but whatever.

[mill_mobile]

Nuttin to do with cars and cops......just cops
At lunch yesterday i was walking through the mall on town and all of a sudden this group of 3 cops surrounded this bloke (it was clearly a bogan) and put their hands in his pockets and emptied them..... clearly an eccy bust or something.....
Anyway, they called for 'reinforcement' and more came, they handcuffed him and took him 'down tha station'.
Now thats the type of stuff they should concentrate on instead of nice looking cars.
As far as i'm concerned sucked in to him for doing the wrong thing, it serves the w*nker right - if he was selling to others what gives him the right to wreck other people lives?
Sorry, thats my beef, i know too many people that have been f*cked up by drugs and dont rate it ONE LITTLE BIT.
So go on piggies....... look for drugs and leave car lovers alone.

[bourbon]

Nuttin to do with cars and cops......just cops
At lunch yesterday i was walking through the mall on town and all of a sudden this group of 3 cops surrounded this bloke (it was clearly a bogan) and put their hands in his pockets and emptied them..... clearly an eccy bust or something.....
Anyway, they called for 'reinforcement' and more came, they handcuffed him and took him 'down tha station'.
Now thats the type of stuff they should concentrate on instead of nice looking cars.
As far as i'm concerned sucked in to him for doing the wrong thing, it serves the w*nker right - if he was selling to others what gives him the right to wreck other people lives?
Sorry, thats my beef, i know too many people that have been f*cked up by drugs and dont rate it ONE LITTLE BIT.
So go on piggies....... look for drugs and leave car lovers alone.


what you say is correct...but also what you said bout destroying someone elses life is as well but its the same as for drivers...whats the percentage of nice looking modded cars, and the drivers of them doing stupid stuff on the road like racing and crazy driving...now if somethin does go wrong what if they cripple someone or even kill them...all the cops are doing is tryin to prevent such things to happen...

also on another note, people who get into the drugs have a choice to do it or not...but if someone crashes into your car you dont have a choice of it happening or not...i love my car, but i respect the job cops do...i really think people need to learn to respect them...you try keeping everyone happy and i bet it would be a hard job...

[mill_mobile]

what you say is correct...but also what you said bout destroying someone elses life is as well but its the same as for drivers...whats the percentage of nice looking modded cars, and the drivers of them doing stupid stuff on the road like racing and crazy driving...now if somethin does go wrong what if they cripple someone or even kill them...all the cops are doing is tryin to prevent such things to happen...

Yep, 100% agreed - i guess there are many different things to float either way on this. ARRGGGHHH, one thing that NO ONE can deny out of all this...... its the innocent ones that cop it tough as a result of the stupid ones out there :(

[chicaboo]

I haven't seen statistics, but I would imagine that MORE accidents are caused in wet weather due to poor driver reaction or lack of attention and just general driver error ie: not paying attention or being too anxious to commit to a manouvre without checking for other nearby vehicles first. I see this everyday I drive to work atleast... Damn, drunk drivers would probably account for more accidents than tuned/riced cars?

As I said earlier in the piece, if someone is going to speed, they will do it whether they are driving a 30 year old buggered dangerous Datson 120Y (more likely infact!) or a car they have poured many thousands of $$$ into (less likely in IMO). It strikes me as bizzare that because a few young ppl in NSW got their hands on Daddy's worked Skylines and wrap them around trees, that every true Japanese car enthusiast is tarnished with BS and targeted.

Police don't want to be generalised as arseholes hasseling car enthusiasts, but we just want the same!!! I am 30 years old FFS! But you would think with the attention I get from my wheels, that I'm 18 again with my hat on backwards! There can be no latitude given if none is received in return...

Gav.

[arden]

over the weekend while driving home, i see a souped up supra behind me and the guy in passenger seat was taking pictures of my car so now ive been paranoid!!!Keep wondering if theyre gonna send a yellow canary or something.

[chicaboo]

Keep wondering if theyre gonna send a yellow canary or something.Haha, a yellow Canary for a yellow Daisy. Sounds aptly fitting to me! :p :D

[zappy65]

respect is all good but in my books you have to earn it and what they are doing in the forums is not earning anyones trust...

[Cosmo Dude]

this absolutely shats me off to the max....the one thing that we like doing is bad for the community...shat chat rooms arent even safe anymore...im so sick of the cops in Australia period...im the same with keeping racing on the track but this is ridiculous...so much for having privacy, and advertising our rides...no wonder so many people go underground...police are there own worst enemy and i hope they read this...sori bout the long messege

AGT is a public forum, it's not like your phone has been tapped (the echo is annoying). The police have a job to do and sometimes they don't do it in a sympathetic way.
Personaly I don't post anything I wouldn't want read.

[Snake]

thats just gay.. why do they need to monitor modifications. this is just getting ridiculous. im sick of cops in qld hiding behind bushes to catch speeders. i liked it when i was in NSW and they told u they were using cameras. way better. they should stick to doing their jobs not pestering every1 everywhere. the whole cop thing just turned into a whole sneaky and deceptive cesspool since a few years ago.

if cops are reading this well.... I have been involved in and will be involved in multiple illegal driving offences. but thats just me typing it. who knows it might not even be me. just because i say it dosnt make it true i could be talking crap. so come arrest me piggys.. :p

Ok seriously, you do the crime you do the time. Do the wrong thing and get ****ed up for it, then to bad, deal with it. "im sick of cops in qld hiding behind bushes to catch speeders" to bad build a bridge, dont speed or deal with getting caught, laws for a reason, so you dont kill yourself or someone else. KEEP TO THE TRACK!