lol. no, the second pic looked as if the quarter panel was dented bad........it was just the light. My bad

these dont come in a 4 x 100 do they?

Nah, only 5 stud.

do these ever come in 16's?

They were only made in the sizes listed in the first post.

Are these not designed to be light weight? What's the weight difference between one of these and an MS01 of the same size?

They're about the same weight - a 17x8 MS-02 is about 8kg, and a 16x7 MS-01LM is a bit over 7 or so - so i'd imagine they're about the same. It's only the MS-01F that are quite light, but they only go to 16"

Single MS-02 in 17x8 +38 5x114.3

http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h143638530

http://img263.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/u...0mmkf14568.jpg

6000yen/$78, 3 days

Single MS-02 in 17x7 +33, 5x114.3

http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e115485181

http://img383.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/u...wwc8q58506.jpg

7000yen/$83, 3 days

Has anyone seen a pair or set of these in black recently? I'm looking for a set for my RX-8, would prefer the 17x8 for front and 17x9 for rear. The black would be preferred but I can get whatever powder coated.

Also need to be able to have them shipped to the U.S.? I found a pair of 17x9 at panda garage.

They do come up in black every 6 months or so - they're not nearly as common as the silver centres

I've got a pair of black 17x8 +33 in stock
http://www.astinagt.com/forums/showp...&postcount=651

I can ship to the US, too.

I can never decide whether I really like these or think they're just damn ugly..

You really need to see them in person - most people say they look better in the flesh. Unless they still hate them LOL

Single MS-02 in 17x7 +38 5x114.3

http://page8.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/h163146842

http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img377.auc...dgkht60012.jpg

8500yen/$101, 2 days

1/24 scale MS-02s

http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e123622459

http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img347.auc...4koss21471.jpg

700yen/$9, 3 days

The 17/9/38 mso2 rims you've had for a while, is there any chance of squeezing them under a BA's guards? The bend in one rim will it need to be repaired to run them and finally what offset were the 17/8"s that you fitted to your car? Willing to part with them?

Nah, no chance. Maybe with a lot of camber and a 10mm spacer, as i needed a 6mm spacer just to clear the rear struts.

Mine are 17x8 +38, and nah, i can't sell them. Cost me too much to get a set and refinished! If i ever find another 17x8 +33 pair then maybe, as i'll run them instead.

Yeah 17/8/33 would be perfect. They'd poke a bit.. Was the reason i changed to 5 stud, hoping the right set would avail themselves sooner or later. Hears to hoping two sets of 17/8/33 appear..im second in line i guess!

Pretty much. The +33 i think were an option that pretty much nobody took, as i've only ever seen two and i own them!

17x9/17x9 +38

http://page16.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u48105841

http://auctions.c.yimg.jp/img235.auc...cdsio75283.jpg

1¥/$1, 2 days. BIN of 120000¥