Springs

astina · 03-10-2002, 12:36 AM

[color=#000000:post_uid0]hey all i want lower my car 21/2 inches before i get mags, any way i was just wondering which springs would be best to use.[/color:post_uid0]

BigMal · 03-10-2002, 12:52 AM

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ost_uid1]Depends on what else you are planning on doing to the car.
If just springs then probably Kings as they are firmer so will
reduce body roll. However if you plan on upgrading the sways
as well you can go a softer spring for a better ride and use
the uprated sways to reduce bodyroll.

Regards

Mal[/color

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BigMal · 03-10-2002, 12:54 AM

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ost_uid1]Either way go a progressive spring cause they are a little
softer on ride.

Mal[/color

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BigBoyLemonade · 03-10-2002, 03:02 AM

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ost_uid0]I like kmac cause the quality of the spring is quite good and they are progessive... usually $350 delivered to your door[/color

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EZZY · 03-10-2002, 03:39 AM

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ost_uid0]check out item #4 of this page
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astina · 04-10-2002, 03:45 AM

[color=#000000:post_uid0]is it allright to have it lower at the back than the front and what is the purpose of it? coz im a little interested[/color:post_uid0]

BigMal · 04-10-2002, 10:50 PM

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ost_uid1]Moving the centre of gravity more to the rear is not a good
thing on a FWD car as it will promote wheelspin. Better to
go the other way. RWD cars do it for weight over the pushing
wheels = better traction. Sometimes the front is already lower
so when you drop it the front don't need as much. Thats the
only reason I could think of why you would do it.

Regards

Mal[/color

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Mr_Bob · 08-10-2002, 08:22 AM

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ost_uid0]lowering the rear of your car more than the front, not only increases the likelyhood of wheelspin, but reduces weight transfer to the fronts under braking,
which would reduce braking traction
i wouldn't suggest it.
as previously mentioned, it would only really be done if the front was already lower than the rear, but even then, it's been done for a reason.[/color

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BigMal · 09-10-2002, 12:53 AM

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ost_uid1]Eric,
Am interested now, why are the rears you have for
sale lower then the fronts ??

Ta

Mal[/color

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astina · 10-10-2002, 01:50 AM

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ost_uid0]well i went to the wheel shop yesterday to order some king spirings to lower the astina 21/2 inches but the guy said that that they dont make king springs to lower it by that much only just over 2 inches they can do. ???[/color

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EZZY · 10-10-2002, 02:23 AM

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ost_uid0]mal,
no idea, they arent mine.[/color

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BigMal · 10-10-2002, 03:36 AM

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ost_uid1]Sik Mik,
You still got the Kings box with the part numbers on it for
the 2.5 Inch lowered springs to help Astina out.

Tanks Buddy

Mal[/color

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astina · 10-10-2002, 03:51 AM

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ost_uid0]just went to pedders and they told me that any lower than 2 inches and my car will bottom out???
thanks guys for your help.
i found wheels today as well avantek spyder or sensei with potenza 3 tyres for a reasonable price so in 3 weeks hopefully ill have them

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BigBoyLemonade · 10-10-2002, 04:39 AM

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ost_uid0]3" is really as low as you should go.. and for good handling 2.5" is the best I have been told... King springs used to do it but dont anymore...
Most good spring companies wont sell lower than 2" because its not really neccessary.

I want to lift mine from 4" to 3" cause I think if it stays like that any longer it will cause damage...[/color

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astina · 10-10-2002, 06:08 AM

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ost_uid0]is there much difference in how the car looks and handles with 2" and 2"1/2 coz id like to go 2"1/2 but if i cant then i cant i suppose ???
will the car bottom out at 2"1/2?

no more questions untill tomorro now

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mrpayner · 10-10-2002, 06:50 AM

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ost_uid0]Hopefully your car shouldn't bottom out as [i'm assuming you've got a 94-98 model] the wheel arches are pretty huge! When i had my car lowered [short live, but that's another story] i think it was between 2½ - 3 inches and it didn't bottom out. That was on factory shocks too.

I have a question. The Kings springs are progressive on the rear and not on the front. Is this because the engine is in the front thus needing the linear spring rate??[/color

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sik astina · 10-10-2002, 07:38 AM

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ost_uid0]yeah Mal. the box had this number - KCRS-33 i had to look under the car to get the actual part number for the springs.

front - KFFL-90

rear - KMRL-83

hope this helps ya out astina

i had a full car a few times now. i haven't bottomed out at all, thats 2 1/2" lowered

-Mick[/color

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EZZY · 10-10-2002, 10:54 AM

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ost_uid0]i would recommend 2 and 1/2 lowered progressive springs.
by the way, astina, whats the reasonable price for the alloys and what size are they?[/color

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astina · 10-10-2002, 08:32 PM

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ost_uid0]ezzy,
they are chrome, 17" and $2720.
thanks alot guys for your help. ill see what i can get my hands on and get back to yous.[/color

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EZZY · 10-10-2002, 09:12 PM

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ost_uid0]i think thats a little bit too expensive!?!
do you want me to get you a price? no pressure....[/color

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03-10-2002, 12:52 AM	#2
BigMal 1ST BA TURBO MEMBER Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sydney Car: BA Astina Turbo Posts: 4,195 View Photos By: BigMal	[color=#000000ost_uid1]Depends on what else you are planning on doing to the car. If just springs then probably Kings as they are firmer so will reduce body roll. However if you plan on upgrading the sways as well you can go a softer spring for a better ride and use the uprated sways to reduce bodyroll. Regards Mal[/colorost_uid1] __________________ If you want wind in your hair add a Hairdryer !!!

03-10-2002, 03:39 AM	#5
EZZY AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 307	[color=#FF7F00ost_uid0]check out item #4 of this page this page[/colorost_uid0] __________________ [url=www.ezzy-style.com.au]EZZY-Style Motorsportsurl]

04-10-2002, 10:50 PM	#7
BigMal 1ST BA TURBO MEMBER Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sydney Car: BA Astina Turbo Posts: 4,195 View Photos By: BigMal	[color=#000000ost_uid1]Moving the centre of gravity more to the rear is not a good thing on a FWD car as it will promote wheelspin. Better to go the other way. RWD cars do it for weight over the pushing wheels = better traction. Sometimes the front is already lower so when you drop it the front don't need as much. Thats the only reason I could think of why you would do it. Regards Mal[/colorost_uid1] __________________ If you want wind in your hair add a Hairdryer !!!

08-10-2002, 08:22 AM	#8
Mr_Bob Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NSW Posts: 31	[color=#000000ost_uid0]lowering the rear of your car more than the front, not only increases the likelyhood of wheelspin, but reduces weight transfer to the fronts under braking, which would reduce braking traction i wouldn't suggest it. as previously mentioned, it would only really be done if the front was already lower than the rear, but even then, it's been done for a reason.[/colorost_uid0] __________________ <p align='center'>www.caraudioaustralia.com</p>

09-10-2002, 12:53 AM	#9
BigMal 1ST BA TURBO MEMBER Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sydney Car: BA Astina Turbo Posts: 4,195 View Photos By: BigMal	[color=#000000ost_uid1]Eric, Am interested now, why are the rears you have for sale lower then the fronts ?? Ta Mal[/colorost_uid1] __________________ If you want wind in your hair add a Hairdryer !!!

03-10-2002, 12:36 AM	#1
astina Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: tuggeranong, canberra Posts: 190	[color=#000000:post_uid0]hey all i want lower my car 21/2 inches before i get mags, any way i was just wondering which springs would be best to use.[/color:post_uid0]

03-10-2002, 12:54 AM	#3
BigMal 1ST BA TURBO MEMBER Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sydney Car: BA Astina Turbo Posts: 4,195 View Photos By: BigMal	[color=#000000ost_uid1]Either way go a progressive spring cause they are a little softer on ride. Mal[/colorost_uid1] __________________ If you want wind in your hair add a Hairdryer !!!

03-10-2002, 03:02 AM	#4
BigBoyLemonade The Architect Join Date: Jul 1998 Location: Canberra, ACT Car: AUSDM S6 RX7 Posts: 1,600 View Photos By: BigBoyLemonade	[color=#000000ost_uid0]I like kmac cause the quality of the spring is quite good and they are progessive... usually $350 delivered to your door[/colorost_uid0] __________________ Tony Formally known as Lantis and Xedos Infinite Networks- Creative Web design and powerful online application solutions

04-10-2002, 03:45 AM	#6
astina Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: tuggeranong, canberra Posts: 190	[color=#000000:post_uid0]is it allright to have it lower at the back than the front and what is the purpose of it? coz im a little interested[/color:post_uid0]

10-10-2002, 01:50 AM	#10
astina Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: tuggeranong, canberra Posts: 190	[color=#000000ost_uid0]well i went to the wheel shop yesterday to order some king spirings to lower the astina 21/2 inches but the guy said that that they dont make king springs to lower it by that much only just over 2 inches they can do. ???[/colorost_uid0]

10-10-2002, 02:23 AM	#11
EZZY AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 307	[color=#FF7F00ost_uid0]mal, no idea, they arent mine.[/colorost_uid0] __________________ [url=www.ezzy-style.com.au]EZZY-Style Motorsportsurl]

10-10-2002, 03:36 AM	#12
BigMal 1ST BA TURBO MEMBER Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sydney Car: BA Astina Turbo Posts: 4,195 View Photos By: BigMal	[color=#000000ost_uid1]Sik Mik, You still got the Kings box with the part numbers on it for the 2.5 Inch lowered springs to help Astina out. Tanks Buddy Mal[/colorost_uid1] __________________ If you want wind in your hair add a Hairdryer !!!

10-10-2002, 03:51 AM	#13
astina Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: tuggeranong, canberra Posts: 190	[color=#32CD32ost_uid0]just went to pedders and they told me that any lower than 2 inches and my car will bottom out??? thanks guys for your help. i found wheels today as well avantek spyder or sensei with potenza 3 tyres for a reasonable price so in 3 weeks hopefully ill have them [/colorost_uid0]

10-10-2002, 04:39 AM	#14
BigBoyLemonade The Architect Join Date: Jul 1998 Location: Canberra, ACT Car: AUSDM S6 RX7 Posts: 1,600 View Photos By: BigBoyLemonade	[color=#000000ost_uid0]3" is really as low as you should go.. and for good handling 2.5" is the best I have been told... King springs used to do it but dont anymore... Most good spring companies wont sell lower than 2" because its not really neccessary. I want to lift mine from 4" to 3" cause I think if it stays like that any longer it will cause damage...[/colorost_uid0] __________________ Tony Formally known as Lantis and Xedos Infinite Networks- Creative Web design and powerful online application solutions

10-10-2002, 06:08 AM	#15
astina Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: tuggeranong, canberra Posts: 190	[color=#32CD32ost_uid0]is there much difference in how the car looks and handles with 2" and 2"1/2 coz id like to go 2"1/2 but if i cant then i cant i suppose ??? will the car bottom out at 2"1/2? no more questions untill tomorro now [/colorost_uid0]

10-10-2002, 06:50 AM	#16
mrpayner Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -37.561609, 143.854814 Car: 2013 Mazda 6 GT Sedan - Soul Red Posts: 3,517 View Photos By: mrpayner	[color=#000000ost_uid0]Hopefully your car shouldn't bottom out as [i'm assuming you've got a 94-98 model] the wheel arches are pretty huge! When i had my car lowered [short live, but that's another story] i think it was between 2½ - 3 inches and it didn't bottom out. That was on factory shocks too. I have a question. The Kings springs are progressive on the rear and not on the front. Is this because the engine is in the front thus needing the linear spring rate??[/colorost_uid0] __________________ 2013 Mazda6 Diesel GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[Formerly] 2004 Mazda6 Luxury Sport

10-10-2002, 07:38 AM	#17
sik astina Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Wollongong , N.S.W , Australia Car: Ba 1.8L Turbo astina Posts: 1,739 View Photos By: sik astina	[color=#0000FFost_uid0]yeah Mal. the box had this number - KCRS-33 i had to look under the car to get the actual part number for the springs. front - KFFL-90 rear - KMRL-83 hope this helps ya out astina i had a full car a few times now. i haven't bottomed out at all, thats 2 1/2" lowered -Mick[/colorost_uid0] __________________ [UNL35H] CANDY BA 1.8L Turbo - with the Twotone spread with the loco paint 2sus custom resprays

10-10-2002, 10:54 AM	#18
EZZY AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 307	[color=#FF7F00ost_uid0]i would recommend 2 and 1/2 lowered progressive springs. by the way, astina, whats the reasonable price for the alloys and what size are they?[/colorost_uid0] __________________ [url=www.ezzy-style.com.au]EZZY-Style Motorsportsurl]

10-10-2002, 08:32 PM	#19
astina Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: tuggeranong, canberra Posts: 190	[color=#32CD32ost_uid0]ezzy, they are chrome, 17" and $2720. thanks alot guys for your help. ill see what i can get my hands on and get back to yous.[/colorost_uid0]

10-10-2002, 09:12 PM	#20
EZZY AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 307	[color=#FF7F00ost_uid0]i think thats a little bit too expensive!?! do you want me to get you a price? no pressure....[/colorost_uid0] __________________ [url=www.ezzy-style.com.au]EZZY-Style Motorsportsurl]

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