Water in Oil

Astina Gold · 30-06-2012, 10:19 PM

Pulled dipstick and it was milky. Had a look through oil filler and I can see milky stuff around valve springs.

Is there an easy way to check if the head gasket is ok?

derb · 01-07-2012, 08:26 AM

Compression test. I've got a tester you can borrow. That should tell you what's wrong.

rogerstrampoline · 01-07-2012, 02:30 PM

Sounds like a head gasket to me :S

Astina Gold · 01-07-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by derb

Compression test. I've got a tester you can borrow. That should tell you what's wrong.

Thanks heaps! May PM you - Thanks!

I haven't run the car properly (ie on long trip) since I pulled the motor out and replaced timing belt, water pump, seals/valve stem seals etc. Car was left on nature strip with no spark plugs and valve cover was just sitting on (not bolted down) during a few days of wet weather, so whether this amounts to anything I'm not sure.

Bonnet was toast/warped so no bonnet at the moment.

Car is 90% RWC ready.

I'm wondering if it is just condensation?

Found the water pump pulley 30 minutes ago amongst the burnt rubble (house fire) so will clean that up and put that on. New belts yesterday at Mazda (Dayco) to go on now

Astina Gold · 01-07-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rogerstrampoline

Sounds like a head gasket to me :S

Yep ... that's what I'm suspecting, but going to put belts on today and let it run for a bit to see if rad becomes milky too

DavoAust · 01-07-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Astina Gold

Yep ... that's what I'm suspecting, but going to put belts on today and let it run for a bit to see if rad becomes milky too

Let it run with the radiator cap off. If it doesn't stop bubbling, its a headgasket.

Astina Gold · 01-07-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DavoAust

Let it run with the radiator cap off. If it doesn't stop bubbling, its a headgasket.

I just let it idle for around 15 minutes now. Temp gauge reads normal... but whether or not it did a week ago (minus WP pulley) I'm not sure. My Son did say.. "It sounds like water" when it was idling (last wk) so hmmm - I thought it was the sound of the new HLA's

Anyhow, I just ran it.. took Rad Cap off to have a look and there were very, very small bubbles - nothing like a big GULP bubble, if you know what I mean.

Lifted Oil cap and it was like the head on a cappuccino

While it was running, I looked in oil filler and could see white oil squirting our of the Rocker holes (HLA's). Can't change oil as car is on grass and no jack

EDIT: Just checked radiator level/overflow and nothing has dropped.

Astina Gold · 14-07-2012, 06:07 PM

Rightio... today was the day with teenage Son helping!

Checked coolant level and it hadn't moved a bit. No milky stuff in there.

Ran the car 'til the oil was hot. Drained it and it looked like coffee - bugger I thought

Changed oil filter too just to be sure - to be sure.

So much steam and water dripping out the back I thought for sure head gasket.

Ran car for 30 minutes @ 4000 RPM until no steam. Kept looking under oil fill cap and wiping cream off it until a point where there was none. HLA rockers were squirting clear oil too.

Checked oil level on dipstick and couldn't even read it as the oil was that clean!

Yay!!!

=========

Front of car caught on fire and no spark plugs. Firefighter must have pressure washed engine whilst putting out bumper, so I suspect that's where the water came from.

derb · 14-07-2012, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Astina Gold

Front of car caught on fire and no spark plugs. Firefighter must have pressure washed engine whilst putting out bumper, so I suspect that's where the water came from.

That is pretty damn random mate. At least it's fixed.

project.r.racing · 15-07-2012, 09:21 AM

I filled my spark plug holes once when I pressure cleaned the front after being at the panel shop. Easiest way to get rid of the water was to pull the spark plugs out and drain into the bores. Although less would've been inside my engine due to the leads sealing being in place.

Astina Gold · 15-07-2012, 12:05 PM

Well wasn't random as such. House fire - started in garage and the Astina was parked near roller door so bumper melted 95% and no bonnet (also toasted in garage) as engine was just dropped in etc.

Video footage here - media loves stuff like this:

http://www.thechronicle.com.au/video...se-fire/13486/

Sons 1st car is the White 323 and only had about 20 log book hours to go for his P's. Only had valve cover to put on and it was mechanically finished! Bye bye Weber 32/36

Mrs wanted me to leave car (Astina)... but I took it (flatbed tow truck) to my Old Man's place. Spent around $800 so far on it and just couldn't walk away in finishing my youngest Daughters 1st Car project

New front struts and boots/bump stops
New front strut mounts
Super pro bushes front end
Brand new A/C compressor - Japan
Full Timing belt kit and WP
ALL seals - cam, oil pump, rear / tranny, new sealant on pan etc
Tranny filter and sealant
Brand new indicators (in boot at the time, yay!)
NGK zx19 leads, rotor button and cap (distributor burnt in garage)

Probably some other stuff...

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Originally Posted by derb

That is pretty damn random mate. At least it's fixed.

30-06-2012, 10:19 PM	#1
Astina Gold Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: SE QLD Car: BG Astina \| Ford Laser KN Posts: 91	Water in Oil Pulled dipstick and it was milky. Had a look through oil filler and I can see milky stuff around valve springs. Is there an easy way to check if the head gasket is ok? Last edited by Astina Gold; 01-07-2012 at 12:25 AM.

01-07-2012, 08:26 AM	#2
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	Compression test. I've got a tester you can borrow. That should tell you what's wrong. __________________ 1993 BG Astina 'GT-X'

14-07-2012, 06:07 PM	#8
Astina Gold Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: SE QLD Car: BG Astina \| Ford Laser KN Posts: 91	Rightio... today was the day with teenage Son helping! Checked coolant level and it hadn't moved a bit. No milky stuff in there. Ran the car 'til the oil was hot. Drained it and it looked like coffee - bugger I thought Changed oil filter too just to be sure - to be sure. So much steam and water dripping out the back I thought for sure head gasket. Ran car for 30 minutes @ 4000 RPM until no steam. Kept looking under oil fill cap and wiping cream off it until a point where there was none. HLA rockers were squirting clear oil too. Checked oil level on dipstick and couldn't even read it as the oil was that clean! Yay!!! ========= Front of car caught on fire and no spark plugs. Firefighter must have pressure washed engine whilst putting out bumper, so I suspect that's where the water came from. Last edited by Astina Gold; 14-07-2012 at 06:10 PM.

01-07-2012, 02:30 PM	#3
rogerstrampoline AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: south brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina SP Posts: 365 View Photos By: rogerstrampoline	Sounds like a head gasket to me :S

15-07-2012, 09:21 AM	#10
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	I filled my spark plug holes once when I pressure cleaned the front after being at the panel shop. Easiest way to get rid of the water was to pull the spark plugs out and drain into the bores. Although less would've been inside my engine due to the leads sealing being in place.