CV Joint Busted - Replace Joint or Axel?

project.r.racing · 04-09-2009, 07:39 PM

So I got a clicking right hand CV joint. I wanna know what is the best option is. Replace the shaft from the lay shaft joint or save some dollars are replace the joint only?

Ryan

p.s. For a 97 BA Astina

maztech · 04-09-2009, 07:50 PM

I would replace the complete cv shaft ( inner and outer joints) then you know the shaft has no wear --- remember you drive hard --- did ya call Ron from A&F driveshafts last time

70NYD · 04-09-2009, 11:03 PM

i hear its cheaper to replace the whole thing, cus the shaft costs more, but labour behind it is smaller, so yeah

SineWave · 05-09-2009, 08:16 PM

I'd replace the whole thing for peace of mind. The cost differences aren't too great to worry about it.

- Adam

project.r.racing · 05-09-2009, 08:36 PM

Oh I should've given more info.

Both axles are 18 months old.
Gearbox has LSD fitted w/ little slip.
Car does various forms of motorsport.
Assuming I will need to replace CV fequently.

So was thinking of replace parts rather than whole bits. Wrong?

CV joint $50 vs RH axle $160...

lambs · 05-09-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by project.r.racing

CV joint $50 vs RH axle $160...

Personally I'd just replace the outer CV as it's the part that does the most work and, from what I'm told by CV specialists, the inner joint rarely gives trouble even when worked very hard.

I've just done the outer joint on a BA using a $50 ebay 'special', but the car is stock and definitely not driven hard. Not a difficult job, but having a hoist also helps

project.r.racing · 05-09-2009, 09:57 PM

link?

is it the $39 joint w/ $12 shipping?

lambs · 05-09-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by project.r.racing

link?

is it the $39 joint w/ $12 shipping?

This one:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ford-Laser-KF...d=p3286.c0.m14

project.r.racing · 05-09-2009, 10:06 PM

323 BG,BA. 1.8L DOHC 26*22*56 New CV Joint Kit Part No: 35010

Just that one then huh?

lambs · 05-09-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by project.r.racing

323 BG,BA. 1.8L DOHC 26*22*56 New CV Joint Kit Part No: 35010

Just that one then huh?

Yeh, I was very specific at check-out to be sure, but there was no problem and the part fitted fine.

project.r.racing · 05-09-2009, 10:19 PM

Cheers lambs, you have been a great help.

SuperMazdaKart · 06-09-2009, 12:49 AM

Don't know if this applies to you, but maybe look into beefier 626/Telstar driveshafts if they are a direct fit.

http://fordlaser.com/viewtopic.php?t=71779

project.r.racing · 06-09-2009, 06:55 AM

awesome, i'll look into that also. dunno why i didn't think to match cv joints with bigger/stronger ones from other madzas vechicles. will check in/ex splines now. ta.

project.r.racing · 06-09-2009, 07:49 AM

And now I'm even more confused.

I've found conflicking info on the cv joints. All BA Astinas have a outer spline of 26. But I have found the inner spline to be either 22 or 30 on spec sheets for BP/1.8L.

Help?

70NYD · 06-09-2009, 12:56 PM

is that inner splines on the diff?

maztech · 06-09-2009, 04:07 PM

Ring A&F and get a stronger custom set made up and stop stuffing around with replacing joints or shafts all the time

project.r.racing · 21-10-2009, 08:58 PM

So I have the right side drive shaft pulled apart. And guess what? I got a cv joint sent to me that fits a g series shaft. 30 spline count, not the 22 that I required. grrr. Lucky I booked the hoist for the 1st few hours of tomorrow...

project.r.racing · 21-10-2009, 10:37 PM

And now the seller is telling me that I am wrong. That the G series box and shafts were used from 94-98. Which we all know is bull. "No gearbox and shaft changes in that model." he says.

He'll refund me the cost of the joint, but not the shipping cost. Grrr.

70NYD · 21-10-2009, 11:09 PM

nah mate he has to refund you the cost of shipping as well, its not your mistake for their lack of knowledge..
trust me on this is just did a dispute thru paypal for the 1st time and i got EVERYTHING back for it...

but damn man u have such baaaad luck with ebay....

project.r.racing · 22-10-2009, 07:19 AM

2 of 200ish item mucked up ain't that bad. but yes you are correct. sellers without the correct knowledge are annoying.

04-09-2009, 07:39 PM	#1
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	CV Joint Busted - Replace Joint or Axel? So I got a clicking right hand CV joint. I wanna know what is the best option is. Replace the shaft from the lay shaft joint or save some dollars are replace the joint only? Ryan p.s. For a 97 BA Astina

04-09-2009, 11:03 PM	#3
70NYD Veni, vidi, vici Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1996 BA Hatch & 2005 RX8 Posts: 4,911 View Photos By: 70NYD	i hear its cheaper to replace the whole thing, cus the shaft costs more, but labour behind it is smaller, so yeah __________________

05-09-2009, 08:36 PM	#5
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	Oh I should've given more info. Both axles are 18 months old. Gearbox has LSD fitted w/ little slip. Car does various forms of motorsport. Assuming I will need to replace CV fequently. So was thinking of replace parts rather than whole bits. Wrong? CV joint $50 vs RH axle $160... Last edited by project.r.racing; 05-09-2009 at 09:04 PM.

06-09-2009, 12:49 AM	#12
SuperMazdaKart Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Adelaide Car: Familia GTR! Posts: 154	Don't know if this applies to you, but maybe look into beefier 626/Telstar driveshafts if they are a direct fit. http://fordlaser.com/viewtopic.php?t=71779 __________________ Vu,

06-09-2009, 12:56 PM	#15
70NYD Veni, vidi, vici Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1996 BA Hatch & 2005 RX8 Posts: 4,911 View Photos By: 70NYD	is that inner splines on the diff? __________________

04-09-2009, 07:50 PM	#2
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	I would replace the complete cv shaft ( inner and outer joints) then you know the shaft has no wear --- remember you drive hard --- did ya call Ron from A&F driveshafts last time

05-09-2009, 08:16 PM	#4
SineWave Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sydney Car: White '93 BG Auto Hatch Posts: 75	I'd replace the whole thing for peace of mind. The cost differences aren't too great to worry about it. - Adam

05-09-2009, 09:57 PM	#7
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	link? is it the $39 joint w/ $12 shipping?

05-09-2009, 10:06 PM	#9
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	323 BG,BA. 1.8L DOHC 262256 New CV Joint Kit Part No: 35010 Just that one then huh?

05-09-2009, 10:19 PM	#11
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	Cheers lambs, you have been a great help.

06-09-2009, 06:55 AM	#13
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	awesome, i'll look into that also. dunno why i didn't think to match cv joints with bigger/stronger ones from other madzas vechicles. will check in/ex splines now. ta.

06-09-2009, 07:49 AM	#14
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	And now I'm even more confused. I've found conflicking info on the cv joints. All BA Astinas have a outer spline of 26. But I have found the inner spline to be either 22 or 30 on spec sheets for BP/1.8L. Help?

06-09-2009, 04:07 PM	#16
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	Ring A&F and get a stronger custom set made up and stop stuffing around with replacing joints or shafts all the time

21-10-2009, 08:58 PM	#17
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	So I have the right side drive shaft pulled apart. And guess what? I got a cv joint sent to me that fits a g series shaft. 30 spline count, not the 22 that I required. grrr. Lucky I booked the hoist for the 1st few hours of tomorrow...

21-10-2009, 10:37 PM	#18
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	And now the seller is telling me that I am wrong. That the G series box and shafts were used from 94-98. Which we all know is bull. "No gearbox and shaft changes in that model." he says. He'll refund me the cost of the joint, but not the shipping cost. Grrr.

21-10-2009, 11:09 PM	#19
70NYD Veni, vidi, vici Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1996 BA Hatch & 2005 RX8 Posts: 4,911 View Photos By: 70NYD	nah mate he has to refund you the cost of shipping as well, its not your mistake for their lack of knowledge.. trust me on this is just did a dispute thru paypal for the 1st time and i got EVERYTHING back for it... but damn man u have such baaaad luck with ebay.... __________________

22-10-2009, 07:19 AM	#20
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	2 of 200ish item mucked up ain't that bad. but yes you are correct. sellers without the correct knowledge are annoying.