Windows 7 beta - Page 2

derb · 15-01-2009, 09:34 PM

bloody hell, good thing i've never even tried vista.

chicaboo · 16-01-2009, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derb

bloody hell, good thing i've never even tried vista.

The ATi External Event (that causes a problem with a .sys file which causes the BSOD) is not an MS/Vista issue. ATi had a gold mine with the HD4850, and then they stuffed it up with their driver release, which worked 100 in CFX on all platforms prior to the drivers I mentioned.

The only game that doesn't like CFX is Crysis Warhead. In which case you need to go alt-tab twice to go to windowed mode and then back to full screen mode just to make both video cards run! Not many ppl CBF'd messing around with the boot.ini to fix the problem, and consequently stay on the odler 8.10 Catalyst drivers... Otherwise, my ATi's have been awesome products, and Vista has been running flawlessly (on it's own terms!

).

Cheers, Gav.

mrpayner · 16-01-2009, 06:55 PM

was going to install it this weekend, however no one has bloody Western Digital SATA hdd's.. pharka's..

bourbon · 16-01-2009, 08:04 PM

i have a wd...but i dont have it installed on that i dont think...

70NYD · 17-01-2009, 01:01 AM

y do u need WD HDD its not a xbox

chicaboo · 17-01-2009, 02:49 AM

I don't know why any of you would want WD HDD's. Far too many of them go into thermal shutdown in the hot weather we get here in QLD. I've been in PC shops and overheard other customers talking about it happening to them...

Gav.

mussing · 17-01-2009, 12:26 PM

Get a Seagate.

chicaboo · 17-01-2009, 01:00 PM

...or Samsung.

I'm building a PC for Mr Payner right now, so this will be my first chance to look at W7 on his new (old) PC!

Gav.

mrpayner · 17-01-2009, 05:12 PM

Well i did end up getting a Seagate 80gb Sata [it's just for testing and it was cheap so why not]..

I've installed W7B and i really like it.. I'm using it right now in fact!

Do we get a discount on W7 when it's officially released, I wonder?

chicaboo · 17-01-2009, 05:21 PM

Hey Adam, did you find W7b seemingly sat idle for a few minutes at a time during installation with no HDD light activity?

Gav.

bourbon · 17-01-2009, 10:28 PM

sure did chicaboo...

also no discount or free version of windows 7 to anyone in the beta as far as i know...

DavoAust · 18-01-2009, 02:29 AM

wasn't expecting to read this on here.

i have W7B running on one of my work pcs. dual boot with vista. it seems a little quicker but nothing substantial. not seeing a huge incentive to ditch vista anytime soon. i have it tweaked to xp speeds

chicaboo · 18-01-2009, 12:34 PM

Alrighty, I just started installing W7b 64bit on my 3rd PC. Right away I notice there is no inactivity during the install at all. It's sailing through.

Bearburn: Did you install 32 or 64bit? So far you, me, and mrpayner have had the system hang during the install. So I'm just wondering if this is a 32bit thing?

The specs of the PC I'm installing on now are:
Intel E6420 2.13Ghz C2D (at least it's got 4MB cache...)
Intel DP965LT motherboard (GAY!)
Kingston 2x512MB DDR667 RAM (need more!)
Asus ATi X1600 video card (kinda gay)

I picked this PC up from work for doing a fair chunk of overtime. So far it seems I got ripped off!

However, I think I will overclock the nuts off the CPU and throw some matching Kingston RAM in there, and that will do. I've got someone sending me another video card soon, so I might be able to get this up to something that I could almost run Crysis and Farcry 2 on? If so, I will give this PC a good belt with those games in W7b 64bit and report back to you!

Gav.

mrpayner · 18-01-2009, 03:44 PM

yeh it hung for me for a little [as we discussed on the phone]. But it's working smoothly.

The only thing that's not working at the moment is the sound drivers. I tried to install the Vista drivers but it came up saying "Does not support this operating system: WNT_6.1P_32_MCE". Oh well, it's not a huge issue that the moment though..

Also, I can't get MSN Messenger to work either. Only the web version works, the version that I downloaded from MSN tries logging in, however bombs out.

I haven't tried installing any codec packs yet either. Has anyone installed the K-Lite Codec pack at all?

Adz

Ice88 · 18-01-2009, 04:56 PM

Windows 7 should realistically be Vista SP2.

They did such a **** up with Vista. CPU stack management *is* better but **** me the rest of the operating systems so **** you wouldnt know it.

I actually swapped to Mac OS X, as it is a brilliant OS and isnt such a resource hog.

chicaboo · 18-01-2009, 05:53 PM

I'm on W7b 64bit now with MSN running successfully. Please advise if you have 32bit or not if your MSN is not working. I just installed it from ninemsn and ran the Live installer with no problems. I also installed Silverlight for MS's wanky presentations when you go to their site for some propoganda... Updates are working on this version of W7b as well. Not that it has done much more than hardware at this time...

Gav.

mrpayner · 18-01-2009, 06:19 PM

audio is working now, but Messenger still ain't working..

bourbon · 18-01-2009, 10:21 PM

i installed the 64bit to try and get the most of my 4gig of ram that the 32bit wouldnt accept

i had issues with it after the first day where no downloads would connect and either would messenger...but i repaired it and it worked fine and has since then...

i sent them a feedback thingy about it tooo

chicaboo · 18-01-2009, 10:23 PM

I haven't found any problems with the 64bit yet. I think I found a couple with the 32bit on the PC I was building for Adam, but he's gonna replace it anyhow.

Gav.

chicaboo · 19-01-2009, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicaboo

Derb: HD4850CFX has had issues with initialising in Vista 32/64bit since the introduction of the Catalyst 8.10hotfix and 8.11 drivers. It has to do with the ATi External Event setting in boot.ini, and this needs to be manually disabled after installing the drivers before Vista will boot without a BSOD. One can then enable Crossfire and then reboot and set the ATi External Event back on.

Cheers, Gav.

I finally just got around to doing this. What a pain in the bum!

Gav.

16-01-2009, 06:55 PM	#23
mrpayner Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -37.561609, 143.854814 Car: 2013 Mazda 6 GT Sedan - Soul Red Posts: 3,517 View Photos By: mrpayner	was going to install it this weekend, however no one has bloody Western Digital SATA hdd's.. pharka's.. __________________ 2013 Mazda6 Diesel GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[Formerly] 2004 Mazda6 Luxury Sport

16-01-2009, 08:04 PM	#24
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	i have a wd...but i dont have it installed on that i dont think... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

17-01-2009, 01:01 AM	#25
70NYD Veni, vidi, vici Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1996 BA Hatch & 2005 RX8 Posts: 4,911 View Photos By: 70NYD	y do u need WD HDD its not a xbox __________________

17-01-2009, 05:12 PM	#29
mrpayner Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -37.561609, 143.854814 Car: 2013 Mazda 6 GT Sedan - Soul Red Posts: 3,517 View Photos By: mrpayner	Well i did end up getting a Seagate 80gb Sata [it's just for testing and it was cheap so why not].. I've installed W7B and i really like it.. I'm using it right now in fact! Do we get a discount on W7 when it's officially released, I wonder? __________________ 2013 Mazda6 Diesel GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[Formerly] 2004 Mazda6 Luxury Sport

17-01-2009, 10:28 PM	#31
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	sure did chicaboo... also no discount or free version of windows 7 to anyone in the beta as far as i know... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

15-01-2009, 09:34 PM	#21
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	bloody hell, good thing i've never even tried vista.

17-01-2009, 02:49 AM	#26
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	I don't know why any of you would want WD HDD's. Far too many of them go into thermal shutdown in the hot weather we get here in QLD. I've been in PC shops and overheard other customers talking about it happening to them... Gav.

17-01-2009, 12:26 PM	#27
mussing Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney Car: 1990 323 Astina BG SP Posts: 1,071 View Photos By: mussing	Get a Seagate.

17-01-2009, 01:00 PM	#28
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	...or Samsung. I'm building a PC for Mr Payner right now, so this will be my first chance to look at W7 on his new (old) PC! Gav.

17-01-2009, 05:21 PM	#30
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	Hey Adam, did you find W7b seemingly sat idle for a few minutes at a time during installation with no HDD light activity? Gav.

18-01-2009, 02:29 AM	#32
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	wasn't expecting to read this on here. i have W7B running on one of my work pcs. dual boot with vista. it seems a little quicker but nothing substantial. not seeing a huge incentive to ditch vista anytime soon. i have it tweaked to xp speeds __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

18-01-2009, 12:34 PM	#33
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	Alrighty, I just started installing W7b 64bit on my 3rd PC. Right away I notice there is no inactivity during the install at all. It's sailing through. Bearburn: Did you install 32 or 64bit? So far you, me, and mrpayner have had the system hang during the install. So I'm just wondering if this is a 32bit thing? The specs of the PC I'm installing on now are: Intel E6420 2.13Ghz C2D (at least it's got 4MB cache...) Intel DP965LT motherboard (GAY!) Kingston 2x512MB DDR667 RAM (need more!) Asus ATi X1600 video card (kinda gay) I picked this PC up from work for doing a fair chunk of overtime. So far it seems I got ripped off! However, I think I will overclock the nuts off the CPU and throw some matching Kingston RAM in there, and that will do. I've got someone sending me another video card soon, so I might be able to get this up to something that I could almost run Crysis and Farcry 2 on? If so, I will give this PC a good belt with those games in W7b 64bit and report back to you! Gav.

18-01-2009, 03:44 PM	#34
mrpayner Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -37.561609, 143.854814 Car: 2013 Mazda 6 GT Sedan - Soul Red Posts: 3,517 View Photos By: mrpayner	yeh it hung for me for a little [as we discussed on the phone]. But it's working smoothly. The only thing that's not working at the moment is the sound drivers. I tried to install the Vista drivers but it came up saying "Does not support this operating system: WNT_6.1P_32_MCE". Oh well, it's not a huge issue that the moment though.. Also, I can't get MSN Messenger to work either. Only the web version works, the version that I downloaded from MSN tries logging in, however bombs out. I haven't tried installing any codec packs yet either. Has anyone installed the K-Lite Codec pack at all? Adz __________________ 2013 Mazda6 Diesel GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[Formerly] 2004 Mazda6 Luxury Sport

18-01-2009, 04:56 PM	#35
Ice88 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Auchenflower, Brisbane Car: Blue SP20 Posts: 2,782	Windows 7 should realistically be Vista SP2. They did such a **** up with Vista. CPU stack management is better but ** me the rest of the operating systems so ** you wouldnt know it. I actually swapped to Mac OS X, as it is a brilliant OS and isnt such a resource hog.

18-01-2009, 05:53 PM	#36
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	I'm on W7b 64bit now with MSN running successfully. Please advise if you have 32bit or not if your MSN is not working. I just installed it from ninemsn and ran the Live installer with no problems. I also installed Silverlight for MS's wanky presentations when you go to their site for some propoganda... Updates are working on this version of W7b as well. Not that it has done much more than hardware at this time... Gav.

18-01-2009, 06:19 PM	#37
mrpayner Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: -37.561609, 143.854814 Car: 2013 Mazda 6 GT Sedan - Soul Red Posts: 3,517 View Photos By: mrpayner	audio is working now, but Messenger still ain't working.. __________________ 2013 Mazda6 Diesel GT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------[Formerly] 2004 Mazda6 Luxury Sport

18-01-2009, 10:21 PM	#38
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	i installed the 64bit to try and get the most of my 4gig of ram that the 32bit wouldnt accept i had issues with it after the first day where no downloads would connect and either would messenger...but i repaired it and it worked fine and has since then... i sent them a feedback thingy about it tooo __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

18-01-2009, 10:23 PM	#39
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	I haven't found any problems with the 64bit yet. I think I found a couple with the 32bit on the PC I was building for Adam, but he's gonna replace it anyhow. Gav.