Gearbox for KF

mervswerve · 12-04-2008, 08:13 AM

will a b6 gearbox work on a kf engine

Cosmo Dude · 12-04-2008, 09:41 AM

No.
Well actualy the gearbox does't fit the engine the bell housing fits the engine. The B6 may have the same gearbox but the bell housing will be different.

mervswerve · 12-04-2008, 10:15 AM

i don't understand
are u saying the b6 bell housing fits the kf engine and the internals are different

i am not finding a kf gearbox in my country but i have access to a b6 gearbox
is there a way to make a b6 gearbox work on a kf engine

bourbon · 12-04-2008, 10:45 AM

is the 1.6l kf engine the same as a B6? or is the 1.6still the BP?

mervswerve · 12-04-2008, 10:58 AM

the b6 is a 1.6 liter 4 cyl engine
the bp is a 1.8 liter 4 cyl engine
the kf is a 2.0 liter 6 cyl engine
there is no 1.6l kf engine
there is no 1.6still the BP? whatever that means

i repeat is there a way to make a b6 gearbox work on a kf engine
any help please

bourbon · 12-04-2008, 11:29 AM

there is a 1.6L BP its in an MX5 just not sure if its in the KF...and there is a 1.6L KF...

i dont no if the KF 1.6L is a B6 or a BP thats why i was asking

mervswerve · 12-04-2008, 11:42 AM

can a gearbox from a 1.6 liter 4 cylinder engine out of a 323f work on a kf 2.0 liter v6 engine

bourbon · 12-04-2008, 11:48 AM

so yours is a KF-ZE engine V6? i thought you ment you had a KF Laser...

mervswerve · 12-04-2008, 11:55 AM

sorry kf-ze
so can it work

DavoAust · 12-04-2008, 01:44 PM

i think cosmo was trying to say the gearbox could fit but the bellhousing won't

mate i'd be wondering how long a b6 box would last on the kf even if you did get it to fit. you don't want to go to the trouble of a custom bell housing only to break the box a couple of months down the track

Rupewrecht · 12-04-2008, 01:50 PM

The end of the gearbox that mates to the engine is different between the B Series engines (B6, BP etc), and the K series (KF, KL etc)

The B6 box will NOT work, as the bolt patterns are different.

You will need a gearbox from a V6 engined car. Either an BA Astina, a GE 626/MX6, or any Eunos 30X/500/800.

DavoAust · 12-04-2008, 01:52 PM

bow to the all knowing rupewrecht

Rupewrecht · 12-04-2008, 01:53 PM

Hah nah i just clarified what was said above

Cosmo Dude · 12-04-2008, 01:57 PM

The G25M-R 5-speed transmission is available for the K series engine and the B series engines. The internals are the same but they have different bell housings to fit the different engines.
They appear to be the same but they are different.
You would need to find a transmission from another k series V6 I.E.
Mx-6
Eunos 30
Eunos 500 (Xedos 6)
Eunos 800 (Xedos 9)
Milenia
GE 626

mervswerve · 12-04-2008, 03:05 PM

thanks

i am not getting the kf v6 to buy here
so i was just wandering if the b6 gearbox would work
i guess automatic for life
people in Trinidad and Tobago hardly use mazda v6's and hardly modify mazda
engines on the whole except for rotary's
no mechanic wants to modify them at all
everything is either nissan sr20 or rb25 ,26 or civics
where is the love for mazda
where is the love

mervswerve · 12-04-2008, 03:13 PM

btw no car came from the delarship in Trinidad and Tobago with k series engines
except for very few mx6's
i can't even get parts for my 323f (astina)
the only mazda's on the track are rotary's and 1 or 2 b6t and bpt
thanks for the help

mervswerve · 23-04-2008, 06:14 AM

update
i got a whole front half with kf-ze and a manual gearbox
but i notice that the intake manifold is different
what a the differences in manifolds

project.r.racing · 23-04-2008, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mervswerve

can a gearbox from a 1.6 liter 4 cylinder engine out of a 323f work on a kf 2.0 liter v6 engine

no it can not as the gearboxes bolt up differently as the bellhousing is different.

ryan

RedLineResident · 23-04-2008, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mervswerve

update
i got a whole front half with kf-ze and a manual gearbox
but i notice that the intake manifold is different
what a the differences in manifolds

i don't know if this applies to you but we have a kf-de (australian delivered version) and a kf-ze(japanese version)

the ze isn't detuned as the de is. that means a different intake manifold and a different ECU.

like i said i don't know if this applyes to you but it may be that you've got an jap import. in which case, i would be grinning about now.

mervswerve · 27-09-2008, 10:43 PM

yes it is the Kf-ze all our imports come from
japan or singapore
i am so happy

12-04-2008, 08:13 AM	#1
mervswerve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Car: 1997 BA Posts: 13	Gearbox for KF will a b6 gearbox work on a kf engine

12-04-2008, 09:41 AM	#2
Cosmo Dude コスモ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location: Vic Car: Mazda '95 Astina I4, '86 B2K and '10 3 MZR-CD Posts: 7,888 View Photos By: Cosmo Dude	No. Well actualy the gearbox does't fit the engine the bell housing fits the engine. The B6 may have the same gearbox but the bell housing will be different. __________________ My 'stina Hatch

12-04-2008, 10:15 AM	#3
mervswerve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Car: 1997 BA Posts: 13	i don't understand are u saying the b6 bell housing fits the kf engine and the internals are different i am not finding a kf gearbox in my country but i have access to a b6 gearbox is there a way to make a b6 gearbox work on a kf engine Last edited by mervswerve; 12-04-2008 at 10:18 AM.

12-04-2008, 10:45 AM	#4
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	is the 1.6l kf engine the same as a B6? or is the 1.6still the BP? __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

12-04-2008, 11:29 AM	#6
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	there is a 1.6L BP its in an MX5 just not sure if its in the KF...and there is a 1.6L KF... i dont no if the KF 1.6L is a B6 or a BP thats why i was asking __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

12-04-2008, 10:58 AM	#5
mervswerve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Car: 1997 BA Posts: 13	the b6 is a 1.6 liter 4 cyl engine the bp is a 1.8 liter 4 cyl engine the kf is a 2.0 liter 6 cyl engine there is no 1.6l kf engine there is no 1.6still the BP? whatever that means i repeat is there a way to make a b6 gearbox work on a kf engine any help please

12-04-2008, 11:42 AM	#7
mervswerve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Car: 1997 BA Posts: 13	can a gearbox from a 1.6 liter 4 cylinder engine out of a 323f work on a kf 2.0 liter v6 engine

12-04-2008, 11:48 AM	#8
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	so yours is a KF-ZE engine V6? i thought you ment you had a KF Laser... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

12-04-2008, 11:55 AM	#9
mervswerve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Car: 1997 BA Posts: 13	sorry kf-ze so can it work Last edited by mervswerve; 12-04-2008 at 12:25 PM.

12-04-2008, 01:44 PM	#10
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	i think cosmo was trying to say the gearbox could fit but the bellhousing won't mate i'd be wondering how long a b6 box would last on the kf even if you did get it to fit. you don't want to go to the trouble of a custom bell housing only to break the box a couple of months down the track __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

12-04-2008, 01:50 PM	#11
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	The end of the gearbox that mates to the engine is different between the B Series engines (B6, BP etc), and the K series (KF, KL etc) The B6 box will NOT work, as the bolt patterns are different. You will need a gearbox from a V6 engined car. Either an BA Astina, a GE 626/MX6, or any Eunos 30X/500/800. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

12-04-2008, 01:52 PM	#12
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	bow to the all knowing rupewrecht __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

12-04-2008, 01:53 PM	#13
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Hah nah i just clarified what was said above __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

12-04-2008, 01:57 PM	#14
Cosmo Dude コスモ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location: Vic Car: Mazda '95 Astina I4, '86 B2K and '10 3 MZR-CD Posts: 7,888 View Photos By: Cosmo Dude	The G25M-R 5-speed transmission is available for the K series engine and the B series engines. The internals are the same but they have different bell housings to fit the different engines. They appear to be the same but they are different. You would need to find a transmission from another k series V6 I.E. Mx-6 Eunos 30 Eunos 500 (Xedos 6) Eunos 800 (Xedos 9) Milenia GE 626 __________________ My 'stina Hatch

12-04-2008, 03:05 PM	#15
mervswerve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Car: 1997 BA Posts: 13	thanks i am not getting the kf v6 to buy here so i was just wandering if the b6 gearbox would work i guess automatic for life people in Trinidad and Tobago hardly use mazda v6's and hardly modify mazda engines on the whole except for rotary's no mechanic wants to modify them at all everything is either nissan sr20 or rb25 ,26 or civics where is the love for mazda where is the love

12-04-2008, 03:13 PM	#16
mervswerve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Car: 1997 BA Posts: 13	btw no car came from the delarship in Trinidad and Tobago with k series engines except for very few mx6's i can't even get parts for my 323f (astina) the only mazda's on the track are rotary's and 1 or 2 b6t and bpt thanks for the help

23-04-2008, 06:14 AM	#17
mervswerve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Car: 1997 BA Posts: 13	update i got a whole front half with kf-ze and a manual gearbox but i notice that the intake manifold is different what a the differences in manifolds

27-09-2008, 10:43 PM	#20
mervswerve Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Car: 1997 BA Posts: 13	yes it is the Kf-ze all our imports come from japan or singapore i am so happy