Wilwood Big Brake Kit - 4 stud - Page 2

project.r.racing · 29-06-2011, 07:25 AM

Alive and moving slowly.

project.r.racing · 28-07-2011, 04:30 PM

big tax return + high AUD vs USD = project is more alive again.

maztech · 02-10-2011, 07:23 PM

Hey Ryan what's happening with this, how are you going with it?

project.r.racing · 02-10-2011, 08:43 PM

Gone nowhere in months. Everytime I try to advance it, some outside issue stops me. Crash car, coilover problem etc.

phildough · 02-10-2011, 08:51 PM

Its got me interested. I will look into something similar for my car.

DavoAust · 03-10-2011, 02:03 AM

Hmm. Have you looked into whether this will throw off the brake bias? You'd want to make sure this won't actually worsen your stopping distance

project.r.racing · 03-10-2011, 09:29 AM

Yes that has been investigated.

SLY 323 · 04-10-2011, 07:44 PM

Where did you pick up all these parts from?

project.r.racing · 13-12-2011, 10:32 AM

I'm puting this back on the table. Most likely after xmas into Feb. There are a few changes to pricing (cheaper) thanks to a good AUD vs USD compared to when I 1st floated this idea. Also the blue caliper is not unavailable. Check post #1 for changes.

Sly-323, the calipers, pads and rotors are all from ebay.

SLY 323 · 14-12-2011, 07:45 PM

Awesome, I'm super interested to see results. How much did they charge you for the dogbone/adaptor for the caliper?

Cheers!

Edit; referred to first post for answer to pricing.

though results will be good.

Mad Mat · 15-05-2012, 06:54 AM

pm sent

SLY 323 · 04-09-2012, 09:02 PM

Get this going! Otherwise I will :P

Found pricing on rotors, found the calipers on eBay, who would manufacture the dogbone?
Why are the brake lines needed?
Also with the bigger rotors, will they fit? Also will we have to change hubs or work with standard?

I have a spare hub to work this with and want to do this upgrade asap!

project.r.racing · 04-09-2012, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLY 323

Get this going! Otherwise I will :P go for it, perfer someone else handle the cost of the first dogbone than me.

Found pricing on rotors, found the calipers on eBay, who would manufacture the dogbone? the rotors and calipers aren't hard to fine, that why i chose them. digbone can be made by anyone/business that has the manufacturering skills.

Why are the brake lines needed?not all caliper use the same banyos mazda do.
Also with the bigger rotors, will they fit? Also will we have to change hubs or work with standard?15 inch or bigger is a must. it's the backspacing behind the wheel spokes that is the challenge due to the increase in the size of the caliper.

I have a spare hub to work this with and want to do this upgrade asap!

.....

Mad Mat · 04-09-2012, 09:53 PM

Tired it and it wont work unless u get custom dics..

SLY 323 · 04-09-2012, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Mat

Tired it and it wont work unless u get custom dics..

really?

why is this?

Clean_Cookie · 04-09-2012, 11:25 PM

He bought mx5 stuff, which appears to be perfect, but the way they bolt onto the hubs is different, and males for a gigantic rotor size or custom brackets (calipers sit too far away from the center of the hub..

project.r.racing · 05-09-2012, 07:25 AM

buying a kit specially for another car doesn't mean a custom job won't work. matt is being a little vague with his post.

he brought a MX5 kit and attempted to fit it to his BA. and the offsets were off.

last time i have anything to do with a custom brake conversion like this, it was on a starion. 5 stud conversion, rav4 rotors, R33 skyline 4 pot calipers. custom works and fit 99.99% of the time.

Mad Mat · 05-09-2012, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by project.r.racing

buying a kit specially for another car doesn't mean a custom job won't work. matt is being a little vague with his post.

he brought a MX5 kit and attempted to fit it to his BA. and the offsets were off.

last time i have anything to do with a custom brake conversion like this, it was on a starion. 5 stud conversion, rav4 rotors, R33 skyline 4 pot calipers. custom works and fit 99.99% of the time.

yer sorry about that i was on my fone half asleep..

ok yes ryan is correct i did buy the mx5 kit to see it it would fit and no it doesnt. BUT even with a custom dog bone the caliper will sit for far back behind the hub, making the centre of the caliper line up with the forward(outside face) of the hub where the disc is. hence the face the u will need custom discs. the only way to make it work is to have to bolt directly to the hub it self but the caliper doesnt even line up to both the hub bolt holes ether. u can only get one to line up.. there is enought meat on on the hub to drill a new hole but i wouldnt recomend it at all..

that is why i sold my kit and have decided to use late mini cooper discs and 800s calipers with v6 hubs and I4 hub axels..

project.r.racing · 05-09-2012, 09:03 AM

many options and varients available. but the kit in the 1st posts was designed to be the smallest amount of modding and the lowest cost.

adding bits here and bits there to improve it over the original kit in the first post isn't a problem. any one that does so, just need to be prepared for the cost increases.

reason why the kit i proposed was selected was:-
all new parts available
one part only needed to be manufactured
lowest cost available
fit 15 inch diameter or larger wheels

was designed to meet a large range cars/wheels/cost/wants.

nothing stopping people using 316x22 mini rotors etc. but a few more manufactured parts are required. if you don't have large enough diameter wheels (17in), then you'd need to buy bigger wheels. hazarding a guess that this would be about $300 more, and maybe the cost of wheels also.

when i first started this, their was one dude one fordlaser that kept asking if larger rotors were available. yes and it would be custom like the original kit. but just couldn't get the idea that custom is custom, and if he wanted custom, he would have to do it himself at his own (increased) costs.

matt is prepared for the added costs.

Mad Mat · 05-09-2012, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by project.r.racing

many options and varients available. but the kit in the 1st posts was designed to be the smallest amount of modding and the lowest cost.

adding bits here and bits there to improve it over the original kit in the first post isn't a problem. any one that does so, just need to be prepared for the cost increases.

reason why the kit i proposed was selected was:-
all new parts available
one part only needed to be manufactured
lowest cost available
fit 15 inch diameter or larger wheels

was designed to meet a large range cars/wheels/cost/wants.

nothing stopping people using 316x22 mini rotors etc. but a few more manufactured parts are required. if you don't have large enough diameter wheels (17in), then you'd need to buy bigger wheels. hazarding a guess that this would be about $300 more, and maybe the cost of wheels also.

when i first started this, their was one dude one fordlaser that kept asking if larger rotors were available. yes and it would be custom like the original kit. but just couldn't get the idea that custom is custom, and if he wanted custom, he would have to do it himself at his own (increased) costs.

matt is prepared for the added costs.

i learnt this quick smart

well said ryan.

03-10-2011, 02:03 AM	#26
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	Hmm. Have you looked into whether this will throw off the brake bias? You'd want to make sure this won't actually worsen your stopping distance __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

04-10-2011, 07:44 PM	#28
SLY 323 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wollongong Car: 95' Mazda BA 323 Posts: 747	Where did you pick up all these parts from? __________________ Too many Mazdas. ♡

13-12-2011, 10:32 AM	#29
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	I'm puting this back on the table. Most likely after xmas into Feb. There are a few changes to pricing (cheaper) thanks to a good AUD vs USD compared to when I 1st floated this idea. Also the blue caliper is not unavailable. Check post #1 for changes. Sly-323, the calipers, pads and rotors are all from ebay. Last edited by project.r.racing; 13-12-2011 at 10:38 AM.

14-12-2011, 07:45 PM	#30
SLY 323 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wollongong Car: 95' Mazda BA 323 Posts: 747	Awesome, I'm super interested to see results. How much did they charge you for the dogbone/adaptor for the caliper? Cheers! Edit; referred to first post for answer to pricing. though results will be good. __________________ Too many Mazdas. ♡ Last edited by SLY 323; 14-12-2011 at 07:47 PM.

15-05-2012, 06:54 AM	#31
Mad Mat HONEYWELL REPRESENT Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Salisbury - Inner City Car: 1997 BA Hardtop - Had a 2003 BJii J48 Sport20, and 2x bg SOHC astina hatches Posts: 5,011 View Photos By: Mad Mat	pm sent __________________ PROJECT "Catalina" 1994 323 BG Hatch 2005-2007 Crashed into truck 1991 323 BG Hatch 2007-2008/9 SOLD 2003 BJ SP20 J48 Hatch 2008-2011 Regretfully SOLD 1997 BA I4 Sedan 2012-CURRENT 1985 BF 323 Hatch 2014-2015SOLD 1989 MX5 2015-2015

29-06-2011, 07:25 AM	#21
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	Alive and moving slowly.

28-07-2011, 04:30 PM	#22
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	big tax return + high AUD vs USD = project is more alive again.

02-10-2011, 07:23 PM	#23
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	Hey Ryan what's happening with this, how are you going with it?

02-10-2011, 08:43 PM	#24
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	Gone nowhere in months. Everytime I try to advance it, some outside issue stops me. Crash car, coilover problem etc.

02-10-2011, 08:51 PM	#25
phildough Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brisneyland, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Frankenstina Posts: 2,868 View Photos By: phildough	Its got me interested. I will look into something similar for my car.

03-10-2011, 09:29 AM	#27
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	Yes that has been investigated.

04-09-2012, 09:02 PM	#32
SLY 323 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Wollongong Car: 95' Mazda BA 323 Posts: 747	Get this going! Otherwise I will :P Found pricing on rotors, found the calipers on eBay, who would manufacture the dogbone? Why are the brake lines needed? Also with the bigger rotors, will they fit? Also will we have to change hubs or work with standard? I have a spare hub to work this with and want to do this upgrade asap! __________________ Too many Mazdas. ♡

04-09-2012, 09:53 PM	#34
Mad Mat HONEYWELL REPRESENT Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Salisbury - Inner City Car: 1997 BA Hardtop - Had a 2003 BJii J48 Sport20, and 2x bg SOHC astina hatches Posts: 5,011 View Photos By: Mad Mat	Tired it and it wont work unless u get custom dics.. __________________ PROJECT "Catalina" 1994 323 BG Hatch 2005-2007 Crashed into truck 1991 323 BG Hatch 2007-2008/9 SOLD 2003 BJ SP20 J48 Hatch 2008-2011 Regretfully SOLD 1997 BA I4 Sedan 2012-CURRENT 1985 BF 323 Hatch 2014-2015SOLD 1989 MX5 2015-2015

04-09-2012, 11:25 PM	#36
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	He bought mx5 stuff, which appears to be perfect, but the way they bolt onto the hubs is different, and males for a gigantic rotor size or custom brackets (calipers sit too far away from the center of the hub.. __________________ Worklog

05-09-2012, 07:25 AM	#37
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	buying a kit specially for another car doesn't mean a custom job won't work. matt is being a little vague with his post. he brought a MX5 kit and attempted to fit it to his BA. and the offsets were off. last time i have anything to do with a custom brake conversion like this, it was on a starion. 5 stud conversion, rav4 rotors, R33 skyline 4 pot calipers. custom works and fit 99.99% of the time.

05-09-2012, 09:03 AM	#39
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	many options and varients available. but the kit in the 1st posts was designed to be the smallest amount of modding and the lowest cost. adding bits here and bits there to improve it over the original kit in the first post isn't a problem. any one that does so, just need to be prepared for the cost increases. reason why the kit i proposed was selected was:- all new parts available one part only needed to be manufactured lowest cost available fit 15 inch diameter or larger wheels was designed to meet a large range cars/wheels/cost/wants. nothing stopping people using 316x22 mini rotors etc. but a few more manufactured parts are required. if you don't have large enough diameter wheels (17in), then you'd need to buy bigger wheels. hazarding a guess that this would be about $300 more, and maybe the cost of wheels also. when i first started this, their was one dude one fordlaser that kept asking if larger rotors were available. yes and it would be custom like the original kit. but just couldn't get the idea that custom is custom, and if he wanted custom, he would have to do it himself at his own (increased) costs. matt is prepared for the added costs.