coilovers- BC's v yellowspeeds? - Page 2

derb · 22-11-2012, 03:18 PM

mFactory is gear type, not clutch type. It's a torsen style like the TRD ones.

BG1.8sp · 22-11-2012, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derb

mFactory is gear type, not clutch type. It's a torsen style like the TRD ones.

Ohhh i like!!
I was under the impression that mFactory was same as the Mazdaspeed lol
It's not

silly silly me.

BG1.8sp · 22-11-2012, 03:46 PM

mFactory are helical... (Torque multiplier) same as Quaife.
Don't really like much. Prefer a clutch based system.
Nicer on a tight FWD hatch IMO. Not even on coilovers on the roads I drive I have situations of no load on one wheel...
That situation + torque multiplier = may as well have the open diff lol.

I just realised how far off we have gone from Op :/ lol

I may start another thread with discussion about LSD types and selection (pros as cons) for the G series.

smurfy · 22-11-2012, 03:56 PM

where you ordering them from azz? cr3?

smurfy · 22-11-2012, 03:56 PM

where are you ordering from azz? cr3

derb · 22-11-2012, 03:57 PM

PMing you about LSD stuff to keep this cleanish.

BG1.8sp · 22-11-2012, 03:58 PM

Wherever at the time will give me the best price and is easiest to deal with and where I can get my custom rates.

...

So yes.... Most likely cr3

will see what AAC can do for me too

sikwitit · 22-11-2012, 07:16 PM

i use to run ksport pro inverted dampers if u want a stiff ride go with them on my old camry running 17X9 all round with the coils on 3/4 stiffness i had no rubbing and i was 70mm from the lowest point on the car

BG1.8sp · 22-11-2012, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by project.r.racing

get a kaaz lsd if you want a clutch plate lsd.

also don't go too crazy changing the springs. i've used various spring combo to a 1100kg fwd car. and 7/5 would be the best if you prefer a street performance coilover. 6/4 is you wanna more comfort style coilover.

i currently have a 8/5 combo, but it gets a bit understeery on the front on some occassions, so i'm gonna change the fronts to 7kg when i can. either that or it needs another kg in the rear.

You running upgraded front and rear sway bars?

Clean_Cookie · 22-11-2012, 09:52 PM

only rear. I got swayed away from upgrading my front from people on here.

BG1.8sp · 22-11-2012, 10:04 PM

Well I am definitely going with the front swaybar. Really adds so much front end performance. That's why I was going to go with 6kg all round. Getting BC's is my chance to get it set up for having a front swaybar.

Clean_Cookie · 22-11-2012, 10:54 PM

I guess I'll have a 24mm one off the v6...

Clean_Cookie · 22-11-2012, 11:16 PM

No sorry.

sim08u · 15-12-2012, 01:44 PM

Exactly the post I was looking for!! I'm having the same dilemma, bc's or yellowspeed's, I just want to be tucking tyre and a pretty smooth ride and also be able to take corners at a reasonable speed comfortably...

smurfy · 15-12-2012, 01:48 PM

What about the other one sim?

mattylagana · 15-12-2012, 03:35 PM

I'm not happy with my yellow speeds even with a two finger gap An damper need all the way up with pre tention all round an still scrub, the busted jic's I had before these brand new ones were much better, the yellows also make loud ball join noise up front, and in the rear the springs seem to be making noise as of they are re seating ever few mins

BG1.8sp · 15-12-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by project.r.racing

you'd be the only one with those noises. i'd check them out. also pretension your rear springs if you are failing to have capture issues by a few millimeters.

i'd also get a pro (or someone quite knowledgable in this area) to have a once over on them. you had alot of user error install issue, and that may have causes the issues you are having now.

Andy's ones are a bit noisy too

Yellows don't seem to go very low without adjusting pretension... Which is just bad.

BC's you can absolutely slam. And they offer an extra low option.
For me it's a no brainier. BC's... They offer so many options and most at zero cost.
More BC users around that yellow's
Every weekend at eastern creek there are heaps of BC users on the track... Yet to see Yellowspeeds. All are very happy with the performance and quality

sim08u · 15-12-2012, 04:33 PM

I spoke to a guy from justjap and he said the BC's aren't meant to be slammed, they only give you a 2 finger gap... Where as Hammo has the yellowspeed's and he can go lower?? Also jess they are the wrong ones so there going back...

BG1.8sp · 15-12-2012, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sim08u

I spoke to a guy from justjap and he said the BC's aren't meant to be slammed, they only give you a 2 finger gap... Where as Hammo has the yellowspeed's and he can go lower?? Also jess they are the wrong ones so there going back...

Then order them with the extra low option. Pretty sure it's free for that option.

smurfy · 15-12-2012, 05:02 PM

Dont let this kick off again...

22-11-2012, 03:18 PM	#21
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	mFactory is gear type, not clutch type. It's a torsen style like the TRD ones. __________________ 1993 BG Astina 'GT-X'

22-11-2012, 03:46 PM	#23
BG1.8sp Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sydney Car: 2009 BL MPS Posts: 2,300 View Photos By: BG1.8sp	mFactory are helical... (Torque multiplier) same as Quaife. Don't really like much. Prefer a clutch based system. Nicer on a tight FWD hatch IMO. Not even on coilovers on the roads I drive I have situations of no load on one wheel... That situation + torque multiplier = may as well have the open diff lol. I just realised how far off we have gone from Op :/ lol I may start another thread with discussion about LSD types and selection (pros as cons) for the G series. __________________

22-11-2012, 03:56 PM	#24
smurfy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: sutherland shire, nsw Car: sp20 Posts: 1,968 View Photos By: smurfy	where you ordering them from azz? cr3? __________________ To many of us, our cars are an extension of our own personalities, the way we choose to modify reflects this.

22-11-2012, 03:56 PM	#25
smurfy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: sutherland shire, nsw Car: sp20 Posts: 1,968 View Photos By: smurfy	where are you ordering from azz? cr3 __________________ To many of us, our cars are an extension of our own personalities, the way we choose to modify reflects this.

22-11-2012, 03:57 PM	#26
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	PMing you about LSD stuff to keep this cleanish. __________________ 1993 BG Astina 'GT-X'

22-11-2012, 03:58 PM	#27
BG1.8sp Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sydney Car: 2009 BL MPS Posts: 2,300 View Photos By: BG1.8sp	Wherever at the time will give me the best price and is easiest to deal with and where I can get my custom rates. ... So yes.... Most likely cr3 will see what AAC can do for me too __________________

22-11-2012, 07:16 PM	#28
sikwitit AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: ryde Car: ford laser sr2 Posts: 395	i use to run ksport pro inverted dampers if u want a stiff ride go with them on my old camry running 17X9 all round with the coils on 3/4 stiffness i had no rubbing and i was 70mm from the lowest point on the car

22-11-2012, 09:52 PM	#30
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	only rear. I got swayed away from upgrading my front from people on here. __________________ Worklog

22-11-2012, 10:04 PM	#31
BG1.8sp Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sydney Car: 2009 BL MPS Posts: 2,300 View Photos By: BG1.8sp	Well I am definitely going with the front swaybar. Really adds so much front end performance. That's why I was going to go with 6kg all round. Getting BC's is my chance to get it set up for having a front swaybar. __________________

22-11-2012, 10:54 PM	#32
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	I guess I'll have a 24mm one off the v6... __________________ Worklog

22-11-2012, 11:16 PM	#33
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	No sorry. __________________ Worklog

15-12-2012, 01:44 PM	#34
sim08u Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sydney Car: Mazda SP20 Posts: 240	Exactly the post I was looking for!! I'm having the same dilemma, bc's or yellowspeed's, I just want to be tucking tyre and a pretty smooth ride and also be able to take corners at a reasonable speed comfortably... __________________ Hustle and Flow

15-12-2012, 01:48 PM	#35
smurfy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: sutherland shire, nsw Car: sp20 Posts: 1,968 View Photos By: smurfy	What about the other one sim? __________________ To many of us, our cars are an extension of our own personalities, the way we choose to modify reflects this.

15-12-2012, 03:35 PM	#36
mattylagana Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nsw, wollongong :) Car: Ba 323 Astina hatch V6 Posts: 615	I'm not happy with my yellow speeds even with a two finger gap An damper need all the way up with pre tention all round an still scrub, the busted jic's I had before these brand new ones were much better, the yellows also make loud ball join noise up front, and in the rear the springs seem to be making noise as of they are re seating ever few mins __________________ >97' V6 MAZDA 323 S3\|Sunroof\|18"x8" RX8 rims\|Custom Cold air intake\|klze headers, 100cpi cat, resi delete, Apexi back box\|Top Gun Leads/NGK Platinum Iridium plugs\|Soundstream Sound\|Lowered on yellow speeds\|Whiteline heavy duty swaybar\|cusco front strutty\|momo steering\|short shifter\|Lantis door sills\| This is my girl sxc isn't she? http://www.astinagt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18139

15-12-2012, 04:33 PM	#38
sim08u Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sydney Car: Mazda SP20 Posts: 240	I spoke to a guy from justjap and he said the BC's aren't meant to be slammed, they only give you a 2 finger gap... Where as Hammo has the yellowspeed's and he can go lower?? Also jess they are the wrong ones so there going back... __________________ Hustle and Flow

15-12-2012, 05:02 PM	#40
smurfy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: sutherland shire, nsw Car: sp20 Posts: 1,968 View Photos By: smurfy	Dont let this kick off again... __________________ To many of us, our cars are an extension of our own personalities, the way we choose to modify reflects this.