Well there goes the neigborhood.

D Valerius · 05-11-2009, 07:38 PM

Well it seems we can wave bye bye to our foggies according to this little gem

http://newsletters.racq.com.au/em/me...8679&id=576787

perfect time to grab a new front bar eh....

bourbon · 05-11-2009, 07:44 PM

as far as ive known cops have been enforcing the foggie laws for a long time...

marcs_sp20 · 05-11-2009, 07:59 PM

yeah i got warned a couple years back now.,, i still drive with them on, but only at night, not that they are bright anyways,

maztech · 05-11-2009, 08:05 PM

Been inforce for a while now cops dont seam to worry about it anymore as long as they dont shine in oncoming traffic and they are not really bright and anyway $40 fine not much it will only be bad when points are involved

project.r.racing · 05-11-2009, 08:18 PM

you dont need them in the middle of the day anywayz...

chicaboo · 05-11-2009, 08:18 PM

I'm getting HIDs now...

maztech · 05-11-2009, 08:25 PM

I have only used them at night , talking about HID's getting mine soon should arrive anyday now ,cant wait to put them in.

D Valerius · 05-11-2009, 08:36 PM

Well obviously useless in the daytime, just the clear weather night time use they are banning, i like the extra arc they afford me when driving....

but oh well, rules is rules *shrug*

maztech · 05-11-2009, 08:39 PM

And rules are meant to be broken anyway

project.r.racing · 05-11-2009, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D Valerius

Well obviously useless in the daytime, just the clear weather night time use they are banning, i like the extra arc they afford me when driving....

but oh well, rules is rules *shrug*

sorry but night time does not count as clear weather conditions.

chicaboo · 05-11-2009, 09:06 PM

I reckon if you are driving at night on a road without a system of street lighting, then fogs are ok. The headlights on my Pulsar aren't the greatest [black out lenses], so the fogs really help a lot. But I think I will just get HIDs considering how cheap they are now...

Gav.

Brisbane_boy · 05-11-2009, 09:07 PM

wats the difference with fog lights and normal lights?
I know fog lights cut throught the fog and normal ligts just refelct off it.
But i got some normal lights below my normal head lights are they considered fog lights?

project.r.racing · 05-11-2009, 09:09 PM

yes they are.

D Valerius · 05-11-2009, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by project.r.racing

sorry but night time does not count as clear weather conditions.

Fair enough my misunderstanding.

deffs considering HID's in the near future if this turns out as my long term car. would love a set of the factory SP20 heads if they sure up to the looms on a 1.8 havnt researched all that far in yet...

DavoAust · 05-11-2009, 09:34 PM

guess i'll be leaving mine off, probably get away with 55W but the 100W are a *little* bright

70NYD · 05-11-2009, 11:04 PM

lol this is still debetable.. just cus of the fact that you can classify certain lights as forward driving lights (second set), as long as they do not interfeere with drivers vision, and as long as they come on with low/high beams respectively (asuming that they are highbeam)
what you guys have on your BJ's is FAR from a foglight(even tho they are classified as that due to a seperate switch). BAs have foglights that are actual foglights (very dispersed nonfocused beam)

but yeah i thought that this law was in force a LONG time ago, cops just didnt give a sht..

D Valerius · 05-11-2009, 11:28 PM

I always saw the BJ "foggies" as driving lights more than as you say tony actual fog lights, that boost to the range your standard lights give without hitting oncoming traffic with the hi beams.

chicaboo · 05-11-2009, 11:39 PM

The lower BJ/SP20 lights are foglights. They don't have much range, and at best just fill the gap from the bumper to the inner range of the normal headlights. Driving lights are like another set of headlights with decent range, and then you have spotlights. These last 2 are what blind ppl and give foglights a bad name, which has caused a blanket law thrown over all of them. I guess it's hard to argue the semantics of which type you have, so they all just get regulated to poor driving conditions, which is fine really...

Gav.

S373N · 06-11-2009, 12:29 AM

may be off topic, but mate only just noticed the dark 323 in middle of back of the astina, as i told him that you can route a brakelight in, and "recommended" i put a single foggy behind it so it jumps out and people get the picture that it's a 323. (or have 323 burned into the back of their eyeballs!)

D Valerius · 06-11-2009, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicaboo

The lower BJ/SP20 lights are foglights. They don't have much range, and at best just fill the gap from the bumper to the inner range of the normal headlights. Driving lights are like another set of headlights with decent range, and then you have spotlights. These last 2 are what blind ppl and give foglights a bad name, which has caused a blanket law thrown over all of them. I guess it's hard to argue the semantics of which type you have, so they all just get regulated to poor driving conditions, which is fine really...

Gav.

True enough, i stand corrected

05-11-2009, 07:38 PM	#1
D Valerius AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nundah, QLD Car: 2014 GJ Mazda 6 Posts: 317 View Photos By: D Valerius	Well there goes the neigborhood. Well it seems we can wave bye bye to our foggies according to this little gem http://newsletters.racq.com.au/em/me...8679&id=576787 perfect time to grab a new front bar eh.... __________________

05-11-2009, 07:44 PM	#2
bourbon The Hairy Mod Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: southside ya'll and North Side, Brissy Car: MINI Cooper S 2003 Posts: 8,110	as far as ive known cops have been enforcing the foggie laws for a long time... __________________ For All your crash repair panels & lights, clear lights contact us at PANEL HOUSE 45 RANDALL ST SLACKS CREEK QLD 4127 PHONE : 07 3808 8737 FAX : 07 3808 8735

05-11-2009, 07:59 PM	#3
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	yeah i got warned a couple years back now.,, i still drive with them on, but only at night, not that they are bright anyways, __________________

05-11-2009, 08:36 PM	#8
D Valerius AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nundah, QLD Car: 2014 GJ Mazda 6 Posts: 317 View Photos By: D Valerius	Well obviously useless in the daytime, just the clear weather night time use they are banning, i like the extra arc they afford me when driving.... but oh well, rules is rules shrug __________________

05-11-2009, 09:07 PM	#12
Brisbane_boy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Brisbane QLD Car: 2002 323 astina Posts: 1,059	wats the difference with fog lights and normal lights? I know fog lights cut throught the fog and normal ligts just refelct off it. But i got some normal lights below my normal head lights are they considered fog lights? __________________ If your not allowed to go fast, you might as well look fast

05-11-2009, 08:05 PM	#4
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	Been inforce for a while now cops dont seam to worry about it anymore as long as they dont shine in oncoming traffic and they are not really bright and anyway $40 fine not much it will only be bad when points are involved

05-11-2009, 08:18 PM	#5
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	you dont need them in the middle of the day anywayz...

05-11-2009, 08:18 PM	#6
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	I'm getting HIDs now...

05-11-2009, 08:25 PM	#7
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	I have only used them at night , talking about HID's getting mine soon should arrive anyday now ,cant wait to put them in.

05-11-2009, 08:39 PM	#9
maztech Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: QLD Car: ...... Posts: 952	And rules are meant to be broken anyway

05-11-2009, 09:06 PM	#11
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	I reckon if you are driving at night on a road without a system of street lighting, then fogs are ok. The headlights on my Pulsar aren't the greatest [black out lenses], so the fogs really help a lot. But I think I will just get HIDs considering how cheap they are now... Gav.

05-11-2009, 09:09 PM	#13
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	yes they are.

05-11-2009, 09:34 PM	#15
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	guess i'll be leaving mine off, probably get away with 55W but the 100W are a little bright __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

05-11-2009, 11:04 PM	#16
70NYD Veni, vidi, vici Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1996 BA Hatch & 2005 RX8 Posts: 4,911 View Photos By: 70NYD	lol this is still debetable.. just cus of the fact that you can classify certain lights as forward driving lights (second set), as long as they do not interfeere with drivers vision, and as long as they come on with low/high beams respectively (asuming that they are highbeam) what you guys have on your BJ's is FAR from a foglight(even tho they are classified as that due to a seperate switch). BAs have foglights that are actual foglights (very dispersed nonfocused beam) but yeah i thought that this law was in force a LONG time ago, cops just didnt give a sht.. __________________

05-11-2009, 11:28 PM	#17
D Valerius AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nundah, QLD Car: 2014 GJ Mazda 6 Posts: 317 View Photos By: D Valerius	I always saw the BJ "foggies" as driving lights more than as you say tony actual fog lights, that boost to the range your standard lights give without hitting oncoming traffic with the hi beams. __________________

05-11-2009, 11:39 PM	#18
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	The lower BJ/SP20 lights are foglights. They don't have much range, and at best just fill the gap from the bumper to the inner range of the normal headlights. Driving lights are like another set of headlights with decent range, and then you have spotlights. These last 2 are what blind ppl and give foglights a bad name, which has caused a blanket law thrown over all of them. I guess it's hard to argue the semantics of which type you have, so they all just get regulated to poor driving conditions, which is fine really... Gav.

06-11-2009, 12:29 AM	#19
S373N Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Launceston, Tasmania Car: 1991 Mazda 323 Astina GTX Conversion (Currently M.I.A) Posts: 618 View Photos By: S373N	may be off topic, but mate only just noticed the dark 323 in middle of back of the astina, as i told him that you can route a brakelight in, and "recommended" i put a single foggy behind it so it jumps out and people get the picture that it's a 323. (or have 323 burned into the back of their eyeballs!)