Hi, I'm Alexander93

Alexander93 · 06-05-2012, 12:08 PM

Hi, I've just recently bought myself a 1990 BG Astina, In hope to making it my new project.

Any suggestions on what engines would see fit to be dropped in?

Clean_Cookie · 06-05-2012, 12:46 PM

Bpt from familia. Check derb's profile. Budget a few grand and upgrade the brakes and suspension first. Loads of info here and welcome!

Alexander93 · 06-05-2012, 03:56 PM

Any suggestions on the types of brakes and suspension i should be upgrading too?
I usually upgrade those after finding out what engine and HP it is that they have to handle.

Rupewrecht · 06-05-2012, 04:25 PM

Welcome to AGT!

Alexander93 · 06-05-2012, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupewrecht

Welcome to AGT!

Thanks!

xeon8 · 06-05-2012, 04:45 PM

Welcome mate!

derb · 06-05-2012, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander93

Any suggestions on the types of brakes and suspension i should be upgrading too?
I usually upgrade those after finding out what engine and HP it is that they have to handle.

suspension: kings/lovells springs with kyb shocks, or BC Racing coilovers from JustJap.

brakes: slotted brake rotors on the front and Remsa street/track pads all round from GSL Rallysport.

Also, if your car comes with the SOHC motor, you can get the front brakes off the DOHC model that are a little bigger and bolt straight up. And do maintenance while parts are off the car. for instance, if you're doing the brake upgrade, replace the wheel bearings while the hubs are off the car, etc. if you need to remove stuff, see if there is better stuff to put back on or at least maintain the area you are working on.

Alexander93 · 07-05-2012, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupewrecht

Welcome to AGT!

thanks!

Alexander93 · 07-05-2012, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derb

suspension: kings/lovells springs with kyb shocks, or BC Racing coilovers from JustJap.

brakes: slotted brake rotors on the front and Remsa street/track pads all round from GSL Rallysport.

Also, if your car comes with the SOHC motor, you can get the front brakes off the DOHC model that are a little bigger and bolt straight up. And do maintenance while parts are off the car. for instance, if you're doing the brake upgrade, replace the wheel bearings while the hubs are off the car, etc. if you need to remove stuff, see if there is better stuff to put back on or at least maintain the area you are working on.

thanks mate! also, i am sussing out the chance on installing an mazda 3 sp2.5 engine into the SOHC. any idea if this is feasable?

phildough · 07-05-2012, 12:39 PM

Too much work to be worth the hassle.
The engine faces the other way and would be a nightmare to fit.
The latest engine that you possibly would be able to get to fit would be a 2003 FS-ZE but too much work as well.

derb · 07-05-2012, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phildough

Too much work to be worth the hassle.
The engine faces the other way and would be a nightmare to fit.
The latest engine that you possibly would be able to get to fit would be a 2003 FS-ZE but too much work as well.

As above, way too much money to spend on something that can be achieved with a BPT turbo engine. If you want to stay N/A then I think you could make an FE3 engine fit.

My car was SOHC originally, but now holds a BPT and looks like it's from the factory.

Alexander93 · 08-05-2012, 12:35 PM

BPT - call me stupid, but im not too familiar with the engine abbreviations.. what type of engine is the BPT?

marcs_sp20 · 08-05-2012, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexander93

BPT - call me stupid, but im not too familiar with the engine abbreviations.. what type of engine is the BPT?

BPT is basically the Turbo'd version of the BP found in the BG SP, originally from the BG Famila GTX.

phildough · 08-05-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by marcs_sp20

BPT is basically the Turbo'd version of the BP found in the BG SP, originally from the BG Famila GTX.

It was also found in the Australian new Ford Laser TX3i 4WD from 89-93

Clean_Cookie · 08-05-2012, 01:24 PM

Bpt will double the power to your wheels...more than enough power!

Alexander93 · 08-05-2012, 01:39 PM

thanks boys! how much would it be for one of these engines?! and are the engine mounts located in a similar position?

derb · 08-05-2012, 03:21 PM

Engine mounts are EXACTLY the same, as is mating to your existing gearbox. As long as you get the full engine loom, it's easy as pie. I've already gone through a loom with Cookie against my car and we marked what all the plugs do, so i'm more than happy to assist if you get the gear.

As for price, no idea at all actually. I found this from a quick google, but it says call for the price. http://www.allautos.com.au/tabid/59/...1/Default.aspx

Clean_Cookie · 08-05-2012, 03:49 PM

Expect no change from $2k if replacing the externals. It's almost cheaper to buy a wrecked laser with the swap already done.

I'd replace:all mounts, water pump, timing belt and seals at a minimum. A running engine without any electronics are about $500-750. Loom about $100. Intercooler about $100-300. Add piping ontop of that. Ecu's are about $100... Adds up quick...trust me.

derb · 08-05-2012, 03:52 PM

Here is some gear already.

JDM ECU: http://www.fordlaser.com/forum/viewt...p?f=64&t=84411
Standard side-mount intercooler, piping and exhaust manifold: http://www.fordlaser.com/forum/viewt...p?f=64&t=84449

Alexander93 · 09-05-2012, 09:45 AM

so all up, im looking at around 6 grand for the conversion?

06-05-2012, 12:08 PM	#1
Alexander93 Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NSW Car: 1990 Mazda 323 BG Astina Posts: 18	Hi, I'm Alexander93 Hi, I've just recently bought myself a 1990 BG Astina, In hope to making it my new project. Any suggestions on what engines would see fit to be dropped in?

06-05-2012, 12:46 PM	#2
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	Bpt from familia. Check derb's profile. Budget a few grand and upgrade the brakes and suspension first. Loads of info here and welcome! __________________ Worklog

06-05-2012, 04:25 PM	#4
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Welcome to AGT! __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

06-05-2012, 04:45 PM	#6
xeon8 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Adelaide Car: 2000 Mazda BJI Protege Posts: 878	Welcome mate! __________________ 2010-2014: 2000 Mazda 323 Protege 2014 - 2016: 1991 Toyota MR2 SW20 2016 - Err, 2016: 2002 Mazda 323 Astina SP20 2016 - Err, uh, 2016: 1991 Mazda MX5 NA 2016 - 2017: 2000 Alfa 916 Spider 2017 - 2018: 2007 Alfa Brera 2018 - Current: 2018 Mazda 3 SP25

08-05-2012, 01:24 PM	#15
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	Bpt will double the power to your wheels...more than enough power! __________________ Worklog

06-05-2012, 03:56 PM	#3
Alexander93 Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NSW Car: 1990 Mazda 323 BG Astina Posts: 18	Any suggestions on the types of brakes and suspension i should be upgrading too? I usually upgrade those after finding out what engine and HP it is that they have to handle.

07-05-2012, 12:39 PM	#10
phildough Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brisneyland, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Frankenstina Posts: 2,868 View Photos By: phildough	Too much work to be worth the hassle. The engine faces the other way and would be a nightmare to fit. The latest engine that you possibly would be able to get to fit would be a 2003 FS-ZE but too much work as well.

08-05-2012, 12:35 PM	#12
Alexander93 Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NSW Car: 1990 Mazda 323 BG Astina Posts: 18	BPT - call me stupid, but im not too familiar with the engine abbreviations.. what type of engine is the BPT?

08-05-2012, 01:39 PM	#16
Alexander93 Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NSW Car: 1990 Mazda 323 BG Astina Posts: 18	thanks boys! how much would it be for one of these engines?! and are the engine mounts located in a similar position?

08-05-2012, 03:21 PM	#17
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	Engine mounts are EXACTLY the same, as is mating to your existing gearbox. As long as you get the full engine loom, it's easy as pie. I've already gone through a loom with Cookie against my car and we marked what all the plugs do, so i'm more than happy to assist if you get the gear. As for price, no idea at all actually. I found this from a quick google, but it says call for the price. http://www.allautos.com.au/tabid/59/...1/Default.aspx

08-05-2012, 03:49 PM	#18
Clean_Cookie obsessed-incomplete-broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: BA Hardtop/Hatch Posts: 5,441	Expect no change from $2k if replacing the externals. It's almost cheaper to buy a wrecked laser with the swap already done. I'd replace:all mounts, water pump, timing belt and seals at a minimum. A running engine without any electronics are about $500-750. Loom about $100. Intercooler about $100-300. Add piping ontop of that. Ecu's are about $100... Adds up quick...trust me. __________________ Worklog

08-05-2012, 03:52 PM	#19
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	Here is some gear already. JDM ECU: http://www.fordlaser.com/forum/viewt...p?f=64&t=84411 Standard side-mount intercooler, piping and exhaust manifold: http://www.fordlaser.com/forum/viewt...p?f=64&t=84449

09-05-2012, 09:45 AM	#20
Alexander93 Junior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NSW Car: 1990 Mazda 323 BG Astina Posts: 18	so all up, im looking at around 6 grand for the conversion?

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