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shaggy 1800 08-05-2005 09:43 AM

HOW TO: Fitting a pod filter to a BG
 
Hey guys i knows it's probly been answerd before but ive had a look and carn't find it.

Im goin to fit a pod filter to my BG astina. :D The problem is space. It won't fit if i just take out the air box. There is a black box about 5cm after the AFM and there is a tube running off the bottom of it. Would it be ok to take this box out so i can move my AFM back so i can fit my pod in?? what would i have to do with the tube?? breather filter??? cable tie it some where so it can get some air with no filter???

any help cheers

Nate 08-05-2005 10:08 AM

I have a pod in my BG Astina.

That black box is a resonence chamber. it is good for 4nm of torque (dyno proven on an MX5) but you dont need it so you can take it out if you wish.

Also remember to run a cold air tube (using 100mm ag pipe or similar) from the front of your car to your pod, otherwise you will reduce performance instead of helping it :D For this you have two options, running it over the top, starting at your pod, feeding back towards the engine then down in front of the gearbox, underneath the radiator and out the front, so whats option two you ask??? see that big well underneath your standard air box. what you can do is take your front bar off and cut a big hole in the front of your well and run a tube from there up to your pod :) a heat shield from the engine could also come in handy :)

i will try to find pics of my set up

shaggy 1800 08-05-2005 11:51 AM

SHot Nate
I quite like option two. I havent pulled the airbox out yet because of the last time i did it thats when i screwed my AFM.
What option did you take??? And what did you do with that lil tube that was on the bottom??
Photos would be great you guys are f**kn amazing

MeFo 08-05-2005 04:06 PM

Hopefully this may be of some help to you. It's a fitting guide for the K&N 57i induction kit for BG's.

-BraXta- 08-05-2005 09:40 PM

just a thing tho..

aint pods illegal ???

like you can get defected and all dat..

i heard that if you have a pod in the engine bay you get defected but if it aint in the engine bay... then your fine and wont get a Defect...



I just wanna know what ppl think and know cause i wanna get a pod cause they are better but i dont wanna get defected ....

=P not made of money =P

shaggy 1800 09-05-2005 04:58 AM

You guys got some pretty tight laws it's just not cars but also you gun laws.
I know for sure that they are legal over here maybe you guys should coome over here :-p youll have none of you lil legal problems and its a better country LOL
taking to piss sorry

Nate 09-05-2005 08:48 AM

option one
http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL389...6/95938947.jpg

but that means this ...

http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL389...6/95938952.jpg

cut out around the right side box for an air duct in option too ... pipe gos thru the hole and up to the filter

http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL389...6/95939163.jpg

mcwilly 09-05-2005 11:56 AM

i didnt bother about a pod i just cut the whole bottom out of the box. i still have to make a cold air intake and get a k&n panel filter. but breaths alot better already

shaggy 1800 09-05-2005 03:44 PM

But how does you pannel filter sit in there?? my mods have to be undoable becuase i'm going to be selling this car on about 6-12 months. Nate i now quite like the idea of number one LOL i had a look last night and saw the stuff that your ment to cut and thought that wasn't it, it would be to hard to cut. Oh well option one looks very attractive now. LOL no-one have any ideas about the tube??

skippy 09-05-2005 04:03 PM

Why you doing it if you are gunna sell the car in a few months?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggy 1800
its a better country LOL

Yeah that is funny, as if.

And what is wrong with our guns laws,
Who needs a gun really?
FYI heard about the new law in Miami (I think or one of the wack job states)
You can legally shot dead an unarmed person who you felt was threatening you while in public.

So I can wonder onto the the middle of street with my pistol in my back pocket, starts yelling insults at all passed by and if a group of them comes up to me and acts threatening, YYYYYEEEEEHHHHAAA OPEN FIRE perfectly legal, Gotta love the yanks.

Basically the same as the old law, but you longer have to be at home.




Anyway onto topic welcome to AGT,

Thought about trying a pipe striaght into the airbox? Ie normal panel filter?

shaggy 1800 09-05-2005 04:36 PM

Because i must! what a silly question LOL. It has been my dream. (sad i know) and it's my first car. Yeah thought bout that ,and i know a budget pod doesn't do any thing for proformance. But the intake note is realy quite adictave.

Whats wrong with your gun laws??? I wont get started but before you guys got all tight assed with your laws you had very competive shooters in a style of shooting called IPSC. But now your allowed nothing over .38 in calbire (correct me if im wrong) your open division guys are being laughed at. Sorry to every body who doesn't understand.

I need guns LOL other wise i'd lose a job :(

EVOlution 29-11-2005 09:45 PM

G'day, I have just purchased a 92 model BG Astina, it's twin cam and I guess it would be a 1.8L then?
Anyway, I fitted a pod filter, I tried removeing that air resonator box after the AFM but the car wouldn't idle with out giving it a prod on the accelerator to keep it going, I tried blocking the hose up and it was worse - no idle at all.
So, I was wondering, could I run this hose that goes to what might be the IAC straight into the intake pipe without the resonator box. I'm guessing it should work but then why did they go to the trouble of putting the resonator box in..... :confused:
Any help would be great and if anyone knows where I can get my hands on service manuals and technical info for the engine in sydney metro I would appreciate it.

ROB-80E 03-12-2005 08:58 AM

Yes you can do that, it would involve making a new pipe though, because there is no where to attach the ISC pipe into the main induction pipe.

I'm pretty sure the only reason for the resonator box would be noise. ;)

89sp1.8 04-12-2005 06:53 PM

if u want u can keep the res box in though,its just a nice tight fit. they tip of my pod sits just under/in the side panel.which im thinking is a good thing because its furthur away from the engine and closer to air flow...

shaggy 1800 05-12-2005 05:41 AM

"That black box is a resonence chamber. it is good for 4nm of torque (dyno proven on an MX5)"

I left mine on. the pod sits just under the side car pannel just like 89sp1.8's
i could take a photo but i think you've got the idea :)

323kid 12-12-2005 08:32 PM

ok this is my setup

note: only do it this way if you want to keep your popups up 24/7, mine are broken, so they stay up.

This is it my setup...
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/9954/12kw2.th.jpg

It runs under the headlight..
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8698/21qh1.th.jpg
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/3558/35cb1.th.jpg

And pops out here...
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7...02378bs.th.jpg

MMmMmmM Cold air!!!!!!!!
http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/6374/41yv.th.jpg


enjoy!

geetee 22-02-2006 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EVOlution
G'day, I have just purchased a 92 model BG Astina, it's twin cam and I guess it would be a 1.8L then?
Anyway, I fitted a pod filter, I tried removeing that air resonator box after the AFM but the car wouldn't idle with out giving it a prod on the accelerator to keep it going, I tried blocking the hose up and it was worse - no idle at all.
So, I was wondering, could I run this hose that goes to what might be the IAC straight into the intake pipe without the resonator box. I'm guessing it should work but then why did they go to the trouble of putting the resonator box in..... :confused:

i would say this is some kind of air by-pass system, so the engine can idle when the throttle butterfly is closed.
disconnecting it will basically mean you are introducing a leak to the intake air pipe, and the by-pass air will not be controlled by the AFM. plus if you block the pipe off, then there will be no air at idle at all. hence, no idle.
the AFM also has small ducts on either side of the flap. probably for idle air.

MAztinA 323 22-02-2006 02:39 PM

hey im in the market for a pod filter, but was wondering on which one (prob K&N) and i dont want 2 spend over say $120
theres the 57i kit with cai p/n 57-0117 (i can get for about $120 AUD), which would be handy cause of all the parts with it
and theres also a universal one p/n RX-3900-1 and that one goes on the pipes to the afm backwards! so the big end sucks in the air and pushes it through. i can get that for $100, and would make my own cai/heatshield

any thoughts or suggestions? have many ppl tried both?

thanx dan ;)

one other thing, has anyone tried 2 100mm pipes going to a pod? or 3 for that matter? imagine how much more air you'd get! an interesting idea i mite try when i decide on a filter.. :P

thanks again!

asanga 05-01-2007 01:49 PM

Does any one know if there is a significant improvement when driving with a pod filter installed ? Any changes to the fuel consumption? Is it bit noisy having a pod filter ?

bourbon 05-01-2007 02:48 PM

yeah theres stacks of difference...you can hear it sucking in the air as well...improves fuel consumption as well :) i recommend it but also on the other end a bigger exhaust (than stock) is also needed so the air can flow through more freely (well not needed, put to also improve)


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