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shaggy 1800 08-05-2005 09:43 AM

HOW TO: Fitting a pod filter to a BG
 
Hey guys i knows it's probly been answerd before but ive had a look and carn't find it.

Im goin to fit a pod filter to my BG astina. :D The problem is space. It won't fit if i just take out the air box. There is a black box about 5cm after the AFM and there is a tube running off the bottom of it. Would it be ok to take this box out so i can move my AFM back so i can fit my pod in?? what would i have to do with the tube?? breather filter??? cable tie it some where so it can get some air with no filter???

any help cheers

Nate 08-05-2005 10:08 AM

I have a pod in my BG Astina.

That black box is a resonence chamber. it is good for 4nm of torque (dyno proven on an MX5) but you dont need it so you can take it out if you wish.

Also remember to run a cold air tube (using 100mm ag pipe or similar) from the front of your car to your pod, otherwise you will reduce performance instead of helping it :D For this you have two options, running it over the top, starting at your pod, feeding back towards the engine then down in front of the gearbox, underneath the radiator and out the front, so whats option two you ask??? see that big well underneath your standard air box. what you can do is take your front bar off and cut a big hole in the front of your well and run a tube from there up to your pod :) a heat shield from the engine could also come in handy :)

i will try to find pics of my set up

shaggy 1800 08-05-2005 11:51 AM

SHot Nate
I quite like option two. I havent pulled the airbox out yet because of the last time i did it thats when i screwed my AFM.
What option did you take??? And what did you do with that lil tube that was on the bottom??
Photos would be great you guys are f**kn amazing

MeFo 08-05-2005 04:06 PM

Hopefully this may be of some help to you. It's a fitting guide for the K&N 57i induction kit for BG's.

-BraXta- 08-05-2005 09:40 PM

just a thing tho..

aint pods illegal ???

like you can get defected and all dat..

i heard that if you have a pod in the engine bay you get defected but if it aint in the engine bay... then your fine and wont get a Defect...



I just wanna know what ppl think and know cause i wanna get a pod cause they are better but i dont wanna get defected ....

=P not made of money =P

shaggy 1800 09-05-2005 04:58 AM

You guys got some pretty tight laws it's just not cars but also you gun laws.
I know for sure that they are legal over here maybe you guys should coome over here :-p youll have none of you lil legal problems and its a better country LOL
taking to piss sorry

Nate 09-05-2005 08:48 AM

option one
http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL389...6/95938947.jpg

but that means this ...

http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL389...6/95938952.jpg

cut out around the right side box for an air duct in option too ... pipe gos thru the hole and up to the filter

http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL389...6/95939163.jpg

mcwilly 09-05-2005 11:56 AM

i didnt bother about a pod i just cut the whole bottom out of the box. i still have to make a cold air intake and get a k&n panel filter. but breaths alot better already

shaggy 1800 09-05-2005 03:44 PM

But how does you pannel filter sit in there?? my mods have to be undoable becuase i'm going to be selling this car on about 6-12 months. Nate i now quite like the idea of number one LOL i had a look last night and saw the stuff that your ment to cut and thought that wasn't it, it would be to hard to cut. Oh well option one looks very attractive now. LOL no-one have any ideas about the tube??

skippy 09-05-2005 04:03 PM

Why you doing it if you are gunna sell the car in a few months?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggy 1800
its a better country LOL

Yeah that is funny, as if.

And what is wrong with our guns laws,
Who needs a gun really?
FYI heard about the new law in Miami (I think or one of the wack job states)
You can legally shot dead an unarmed person who you felt was threatening you while in public.

So I can wonder onto the the middle of street with my pistol in my back pocket, starts yelling insults at all passed by and if a group of them comes up to me and acts threatening, YYYYYEEEEEHHHHAAA OPEN FIRE perfectly legal, Gotta love the yanks.

Basically the same as the old law, but you longer have to be at home.




Anyway onto topic welcome to AGT,

Thought about trying a pipe striaght into the airbox? Ie normal panel filter?

shaggy 1800 09-05-2005 04:36 PM

Because i must! what a silly question LOL. It has been my dream. (sad i know) and it's my first car. Yeah thought bout that ,and i know a budget pod doesn't do any thing for proformance. But the intake note is realy quite adictave.

Whats wrong with your gun laws??? I wont get started but before you guys got all tight assed with your laws you had very competive shooters in a style of shooting called IPSC. But now your allowed nothing over .38 in calbire (correct me if im wrong) your open division guys are being laughed at. Sorry to every body who doesn't understand.

I need guns LOL other wise i'd lose a job :(

EVOlution 29-11-2005 09:45 PM

G'day, I have just purchased a 92 model BG Astina, it's twin cam and I guess it would be a 1.8L then?
Anyway, I fitted a pod filter, I tried removeing that air resonator box after the AFM but the car wouldn't idle with out giving it a prod on the accelerator to keep it going, I tried blocking the hose up and it was worse - no idle at all.
So, I was wondering, could I run this hose that goes to what might be the IAC straight into the intake pipe without the resonator box. I'm guessing it should work but then why did they go to the trouble of putting the resonator box in..... :confused:
Any help would be great and if anyone knows where I can get my hands on service manuals and technical info for the engine in sydney metro I would appreciate it.

ROB-80E 03-12-2005 08:58 AM

Yes you can do that, it would involve making a new pipe though, because there is no where to attach the ISC pipe into the main induction pipe.

I'm pretty sure the only reason for the resonator box would be noise. ;)

89sp1.8 04-12-2005 06:53 PM

if u want u can keep the res box in though,its just a nice tight fit. they tip of my pod sits just under/in the side panel.which im thinking is a good thing because its furthur away from the engine and closer to air flow...

shaggy 1800 05-12-2005 05:41 AM

"That black box is a resonence chamber. it is good for 4nm of torque (dyno proven on an MX5)"

I left mine on. the pod sits just under the side car pannel just like 89sp1.8's
i could take a photo but i think you've got the idea :)

323kid 12-12-2005 08:32 PM

ok this is my setup

note: only do it this way if you want to keep your popups up 24/7, mine are broken, so they stay up.

This is it my setup...
http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/9954/12kw2.th.jpg

It runs under the headlight..
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8698/21qh1.th.jpg
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/3558/35cb1.th.jpg

And pops out here...
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/7...02378bs.th.jpg

MMmMmmM Cold air!!!!!!!!
http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/6374/41yv.th.jpg


enjoy!

geetee 22-02-2006 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EVOlution
G'day, I have just purchased a 92 model BG Astina, it's twin cam and I guess it would be a 1.8L then?
Anyway, I fitted a pod filter, I tried removeing that air resonator box after the AFM but the car wouldn't idle with out giving it a prod on the accelerator to keep it going, I tried blocking the hose up and it was worse - no idle at all.
So, I was wondering, could I run this hose that goes to what might be the IAC straight into the intake pipe without the resonator box. I'm guessing it should work but then why did they go to the trouble of putting the resonator box in..... :confused:

i would say this is some kind of air by-pass system, so the engine can idle when the throttle butterfly is closed.
disconnecting it will basically mean you are introducing a leak to the intake air pipe, and the by-pass air will not be controlled by the AFM. plus if you block the pipe off, then there will be no air at idle at all. hence, no idle.
the AFM also has small ducts on either side of the flap. probably for idle air.

MAztinA 323 22-02-2006 02:39 PM

hey im in the market for a pod filter, but was wondering on which one (prob K&N) and i dont want 2 spend over say $120
theres the 57i kit with cai p/n 57-0117 (i can get for about $120 AUD), which would be handy cause of all the parts with it
and theres also a universal one p/n RX-3900-1 and that one goes on the pipes to the afm backwards! so the big end sucks in the air and pushes it through. i can get that for $100, and would make my own cai/heatshield

any thoughts or suggestions? have many ppl tried both?

thanx dan ;)

one other thing, has anyone tried 2 100mm pipes going to a pod? or 3 for that matter? imagine how much more air you'd get! an interesting idea i mite try when i decide on a filter.. :P

thanks again!

asanga 05-01-2007 01:49 PM

Does any one know if there is a significant improvement when driving with a pod filter installed ? Any changes to the fuel consumption? Is it bit noisy having a pod filter ?

bourbon 05-01-2007 02:48 PM

yeah theres stacks of difference...you can hear it sucking in the air as well...improves fuel consumption as well :) i recommend it but also on the other end a bigger exhaust (than stock) is also needed so the air can flow through more freely (well not needed, put to also improve)

asanga 05-01-2007 04:14 PM

did you use the K&N 57i kit ?

MAztinA 323 19-01-2007 12:31 AM

yea pod makes ur engine sound mad! when i put my foot right down hard it sounded like a flat four in a wrx :P

and fuel consumption instantly went up. i used to just manage 450-500km per tank, as soon as i put it on i was getting 500-550 (driving liberally)

well worth it if ur not worried about defects! but a lot of ppl seem to do it

mws78 28-02-2007 06:48 PM

i built a fully enclosed box for my pod, so all legal. :) and it works a treat.

cazza 03-08-2007 01:54 PM

Induction and Pod tubing
 
Hey guys

just a few questions. got a k&n pod filter and was installing it and stumbled across a very dirty induction tube that runs from the air box to the injection area. is there meant to be a thin film of crease on the inside of the black piping.
Also im running my pod down to the front end with some piping either steel or something stronger or more flexible. so need some do's and dont's .
thanks

FlamenIce 01-12-2007 08:58 PM

I just fitted my pod filter, works great! and fits right in so it doesnt move ither... might zip tie it down for extra security but other than that its perfect... i will try to do the piping too but i want to get a front bar first so i can feed it to an open duct or something...

Lawsy 02-12-2007 10:26 PM

I've had mine in for ages; but I haven't enclosed it yet (I know, I know...)...

I need to get a pressure cleaner and clean out that hollow area under the filter, get an 80 pipe and put the filter in there, then close off the top (I have a 100mm duct at the front :) )...

Anyone know a good place to get aluminium sheets from?

Clarky_BA 10-12-2007 10:53 AM

aluminium sheets, save yourself some money. When there is a curb side pickup (you know when people put rubbish out) Get a washing machine or dishwasher or even a microwave and use the metal surround. Dirt cheap...

ranoverbyamazada 14-12-2007 07:58 PM

hey guy iam working on a mod for air flow.
1 take out black box
2 attach pod air filter
3 you need a 95 ef ford it has a cold air intake which sucks air from underneath bonnet screw it on to wear the bonnet latch is
4 then at the end where air pod is cable tie pod to that
5 nice and neat no mess works for me

matty88 08-01-2008 02:41 PM

How do you secure the air flow meter to the body? Can someone please draw up/give me measurements on how to secure it?

downet 31-01-2008 05:37 PM

hey i have a mazda 323 astina 1995,

is it easy to install a pod filter to my car

shaikaka 23-12-2008 12:29 PM

my stock bg air filter has an intake tube connected to the air filter that goes under the wheel arch for (im guessing) cold air intake and one to a chamber above the radiator that seems sealed in. Any idea what that one is for? and sould i cut holes in it to increase airflow??
http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/13...500x500Q85.jpg

mussing 23-12-2008 01:48 PM

I'm amazed that thing's still intact. On maybe every BG I've ever seen it's either been removed or was broken. It was borked when I got the SOHC, and on the DOHC it had been taken off in favour of a CAI on the front left.

RibZe 31-01-2009 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaikaka (Post 183453)
my stock bg air filter has an intake tube connected to the air filter that goes under the wheel arch for (im guessing) cold air intake and one to a chamber above the radiator that seems sealed in. Any idea what that one is for? and sould i cut holes in it to increase airflow??
http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/13...500x500Q85.jpg

My mate removed that from my car today. He said that it's a baffle (?), which removes/quietens induction noise. I've noticed a difference when i take off but i only drop it for 5 minutes.

RibZe 01-08-2009 07:34 PM

Did anyone on here use the K&N 57i kit?

If not the how much was your pod, pod adapter and any other CAI costs?

Kevaclone 08-09-2009 11:27 PM

I fitted a Pod to the BG SP today. Cheap. Neat and tidy. No cutting involved and looks better than the pod jammed onto the end of the AFM

Took out the original air box and the cold air intake tubing(from behind the inner guard), and there is a huge hole there. I had a 90deg bend bit of 3inch exhaust pipe(Unused intake tube from my Land Cruiser turbo install, painted in hammertone grey)

You can buy alloy 90deg bends in 3 inch from Autobarn, also a piece of rubber tube to fit over it and the AFM adaptor

I fitted the 90deg tubing to the pod, dropped it into the space and then fitted the rubber tubing over the the 90deg and the adapter on the AFM and clamped it all up tight
I then cut the original cold air tubing right at the bottom of the "U" bend and re fitted it. It stops the pod moving about also

Then just made up a cover for the hole where the pod is fitted out of a piece of 5mm rubber sheeting. Cut to fit the shape of the top of the hole then some cutouts for the 90deg and the cold air tubing.
Made a couple of small holes in line with the original air box mountings and bolted it down
Then just cable tied the AFM to the airbox mounting stud to hold it from moving.

It should get plenty of cold air from around the headlights and through the original cold air intake and avoid getting much, if any, hot air from the engine. Looks neat and I didn't have to cut any holes in the body work.

Might redo the rubber cover in black plastic sheet to give a more factory look and seal it off better from the engine bay and direct more air from behind the headlights down into the space

The induction sound being low freqs it can still be heard quite well even covered up

Ghoru 09-09-2009 10:14 AM

the baffle i am told is for cold weather starts or something, the air is heated from the radiator or some such

so fresh 09-09-2009 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevaclone (Post 210128)
I fitted a Pod to the BG SP today. Cheap. Neat and tidy. No cutting involved and looks better than the pod jammed onto the end of the AFM

Took out the original air box and the cold air intake tubing(from behind the inner guard), and there is a huge hole there. I had a 90deg bend bit of 3inch exhaust pipe(Unused intake tube from my Land Cruiser turbo install, painted in hammertone grey)

You can buy alloy 90deg bends in 3 inch from Autobarn, also a piece of rubber tube to fit over it and the AFM adaptor

I fitted the 90deg tubing to the pod, dropped it into the space and then fitted the rubber tubing over the the 90deg and the adapter on the AFM and clamped it all up tight
I then cut the original cold air tubing right at the bottom of the "U" bend and re fitted it. It stops the pod moving about also

Then just made up a cover for the hole where the pod is fitted out of a piece of 5mm rubber sheeting. Cut to fit the shape of the top of the hole then some cutouts for the 90deg and the cold air tubing.
Made a couple of small holes in line with the original air box mountings and bolted it down
Then just cable tied the AFM to the airbox mounting stud to hold it from moving.

It should get plenty of cold air from around the headlights and through the original cold air intake and avoid getting much, if any, hot air from the engine. Looks neat and I didn't have to cut any holes in the body work.

Might redo the rubber cover in black plastic sheet to give a more factory look and seal it off better from the engine bay and direct more air from behind the headlights down into the space

The induction sound being low freqs it can still be heard quite well even covered up

i would'nt mind seeing some pics of it mate,seems like something that i would'nt mind doing myself

Kevaclone 10-09-2009 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghoru (Post 210155)
the baffle i am told is for cold weather starts or something, the air is heated from the radiator or some such

That would be the one still fitted above the radiator but not connected to anything

Kevaclone 10-09-2009 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by so fresh (Post 210163)
i would'nt mind seeing some pics of it mate,seems like something that i would'nt mind doing myself

Yeah I can grab a few pics on the weekend if I get time

Astinadroxycuts 18-09-2009 12:19 PM

How much kw do you gain from a pod?


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