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Mad Mat 09-06-2012 09:58 PM

BPT forged internals
 
Hey guys,

I'm looking at getting forged internals for the bp motor this month but I don't know what's the best comb (piston and rod) out on the market ATM. There are heaps of kits on eBay but how good are they actually..

Cp forged pistons and eagle rods R the ones I'm looking ATM..

And what r the best bet for main and small end bearings??? Genuine or is there an aftermarket version out there??

laserlynx 10-06-2012 04:37 AM

I am using JE pistons and rings and was off ebay and run ETD racing rods as their website say they are tried and tested on the MX5 for about 600hp from memory a lot cheaper than going carrillo rods, bearings i think the shop used ACL race bearings im not sure

project.r.racing 10-06-2012 06:16 AM

they are all as good as eachother. just have a read of the descriptions if buying from ebay. some offer rings, some dont.

familiagtx 10-08-2012 08:21 AM

I am fan of arias pistons. Any motor I have had has always ran silent with these branded pistons. I have heard wisco piston chatter at idle in a bp n/a and heard other rumours of excess noise with wisco pistons.

Again if whether they were installed properly is another thing

Mad Mat 10-08-2012 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by familiagtx (Post 301120)
I am fan of arias pistons. Any motor I have had has always ran silent with these branded pistons. I have heard wisco piston chatter at idle in a bp n/a and heard other rumours of excess noise with wisco pistons.

Again if whether they were installed properly is another thing

can u get arias pistons for a bpt??

TheMAN 10-08-2012 10:01 AM

you can get any brand piston for any motor for any spec... they are all custom made to order

Ice88 10-08-2012 11:54 AM

What do you want from the rod/piston? What rpm range? Etc.

Mad Mat 10-08-2012 01:08 PM

i just want to lower the compression down to 8.5.1 and go to about 7.5-8k rpm..

TheMAN 10-08-2012 01:32 PM

and how much boost you want to run?

Mad Mat 10-08-2012 01:48 PM

about 20 max... well im thinking about using a gt28 or gt30.. atm i have a vf10 hybrid..

project.r.racing 10-08-2012 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Mat (Post 301150)
i just want to lower the compression down to 8.5.1 and go to about 7.5-8k rpm..

8.5:1 would be raising the compression on a bpt.

and if you're chasing 7.5-8.0Krpm, you might even need to go higher compression again. hope you got a very good tuner lined up Matt.

Mad Mat 10-08-2012 02:18 PM

wha??? i thought they where at 9.0 comp standard???

Quote:

Originally Posted by JynX (Post 8973)
7.9:1 for the GTX
8.2:1 for the GTR

If the source is correct.

i take that back.. hmmmm well i was looking at one of those ebay mx5 kits and there all 9.0 and 8.5 comps..

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Wiseco-Fo...item3f14231426

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CP-Forged...item3f1418bf45

TheMAN 10-08-2012 02:56 PM

BPs in the BG and BA were 9.0:1 (really 8.8:1), but not the BPT... they were 8.2:1

at 20psi, you better start worrying about breaking the gearbox instead of the engine!

Mad Mat 10-08-2012 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMAN (Post 301166)
BPs in the BG and BA were 9.0:1 (really 8.8:1), but not the BPT... they were 8.2:1

at 20psi, you better start worrying about breaking the gearbox instead of the engine!

im aready ahead of u there.. new gear box is going in very soon..

but back to the internals.. so the kits above arent right r they?? i was told that they would work. :(

project.r.racing 10-08-2012 03:08 PM

those are fine to use. just depends on the engine outcome you are looking for.

Rupewrecht 10-08-2012 03:10 PM

I'm using SPS pistons. Aussie made. They did a 8.3:1 CR for me

Mad Mat 10-08-2012 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by project.r.racing (Post 301168)
those are fine to use. just depends on the engine outcome you are looking for.

well honestly im looking for a more touque engine.. not something that is high reving.. so the standard rev range is fine for me.. :)

project.r.racing 10-08-2012 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Mat (Post 301150)
and go to about 7.5-8k rpm..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Mat (Post 301170)
not something that is high reving.. so the standard rev range is fine for me.. :)

which is it?

Mad Mat 10-08-2012 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by project.r.racing (Post 301171)
which is it?

lol ok sorry let me be clear, standard rev range is fine for me.. 8k would be to much and i'd have no touque down in the low rpm range.

boosted escort 10-08-2012 03:21 PM

I would go with wiesco pistons and what ever brand of rods you want. The eagle rods are a little heavier than some of the other rods but a good rod for the money. Only reason I say Wiesco is because they have a protective coating that holds up to high heat for a longer period of time than the others. I have a set of Weisco 9:1 pistons in my bp. A stock bp with a good tune with take 300 whp for quite a while but the rods are the weak point. Oil pump gear have also been known to break. I would invest in a set of boundary engnering oil pump gears they are good insurance.


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