10" wider rear rims are now made possible for SP20's

[marcs_sp20]

Originally Posted by Cosmo Dude

all for what is essentially cosmetic reasons.

I plan on tracking the car next year, so what better way to be able to fit some wider tyres?

[project.r.racing]

you don't need to go wider than 205s on the rears on a 1100kg fwd car.

[marcs_sp20]

Its the thought that counts

Still wanna do that meetup next weekend?

[A.E]

Lol I think the man has his mind made up he wants to go to extremes on his suspension. Lol

[rodhog]

Originally Posted by A.E

Lol I think the man has his mind made up he wants to go to extremes on his suspension. Lol

Yes he does

But a stock Corrolla NON sportivo with original tyres will still run rings around it.

Massive rims wider tyres dont' always mean a quicker car. Think of the rear end with even 9inch wide with 245's even it wil lturn like a dragster LOL. Or a Capri/Torana with 11inchs under it's gaurds. - oh No it won't rear end aint' powered - It will Turn like one of them little street sweeper things they drive at night on the foot path.

As Said by Cosmo- ALL COSMETIC. If done so - I say Don't forget to go all out with MASSIVE FLARES. Because nothing shows off Big rims like Big Group C style flares.


PS It's nothing personal. It's Just too Easy to make Fun of. Little cars with massive rubber that turn like toys on carpet. It's Just funny.

[jakez88]

^^i concur to this. it just doesnt seem like a good idea at all to fit wider rims. the car weighs nothing, makes very little power and is a fwd. unless you are wanting to turbo the car or make something decent with the power of the car would you really need the tyres and or wider rims. i thought i could fit a 17x9 +15 on standard suspension compnents and i probably be able to if i really tried but theres no point.

[marcs_sp20]

I didnt say anything about using this link kit with stock struts/springs, this would only work with coilovers.

I for one dont see why this wouldnt work well, wider tyre on the rear could help with stability, and combined with a rear sway bar, it'd be nice and flat on corners.

18x8 & 18x8.5 or 9 would give it a nice stance...

[project.r.racing]

Originally Posted by marcs_sp20

I didnt say anything about using this link kit with stock struts/springs, this would only work with coilovers.

can you explain this one to me?

i don't see how making the lateral links 50mm shorter and making custom camber tops (maybe 20mm maximum inwards movement) is gonna be benefitual you are handling? the struts will still be pointing inwards at the bottom.

all i can see with this in a increase in wheel with and a decrease in suspension/handling charactristics.

unless i missed something in that thread you linked us to. but they hadn't even figured it out yet also.

i link the megan ones as the remove about 15-20mm, which seems like about the most you should be removing.

all i see with 50mm being removed, is the rear wheel track being alot smaller than the front wheel track, and this will induce understeer. understeer = slow cornering. defeats purpose...

[marcs_sp20]

Originally Posted by project.r.racing

can you explain this one to me?

you'd basically be limited by how wide of a rim you wanna go with, seeing that a normal coilover setup is a lot smaller diameter wise

Originally Posted by project.r.racing

i don't see how making the lateral links 50mm shorter and making custom camber tops (maybe 20mm maximum inwards movement) is gonna be benefitual you are handling? the struts will still be pointing inwards at the bottom.

all i can see with this in a increase in wheel with and a decrease in suspension/handling charactristics.

unless i missed something in that thread you linked us to. but they hadn't even figured it out yet also.

i link the megan ones as the remove about 15-20mm, which seems like about the most you should be removing.

all i see with 50mm being removed, is the rear wheel track being alot smaller than the front wheel track, and this will induce understeer. understeer = slow cornering. defeats purpose...

Considering the car currently has plenty of Oversteer, this would hopefully level it out

[rodhog]

Originally Posted by marcs_sp20

Considering the car currently has plenty of Oversteer, this would hopefully level it out

what kind of oversteer does your car have to be problem that you need bigger rear tyres?

because I highly doubt you are using all the rubber you can.
Just for notice the Honda EG or EK that took out last years Fastest FWD at world time attack. Did it all on I thinik it was 15 or 16 maybe 17inch rims no wider then 8inchs. I'm pretty sure it was only like 7inch wide It was light weight. had a 2.4L honda motor and driven by a top driver. Ha no reason or issues to get rubber on to it. In fact the drive said compared to the S2000 I was with it was all suspension work difference. In that one car had the tyres working better then the other.

Wider tyres on a FWD car will not help you corner anyway or form especially if you have if stagger to the front with narrower rims. The back end will lead the front and you won't be able to worry about under steer or oversteer it just won't turn.

[swift jimmy]

after having a good old read of this thread i can see the advantages of this kit.

1) people that want to track there car.

2) people wanting more room for tyre/rim inside the guard.. (IE rim offset issues)

3) changing from daily rims to wider sticker tyres for track days

but for more grip in corning and overall daily driving probably better of spending more $$$ on the tyres you are putting on your car.. wack in 2-3 degrees more chamber (if your that keen )and problem solved

[DavoAust]

I gather this thread died a couple of weeks ago.

Still, heres my 2c. I agree with Rod & Ryan, its the rear of an FWD car. There wont be any improvement to performance on the track, more likely the opposite.

You'd be better off running 8-8.5" all round (if you can fit them) with semi-slicks (something like the KU36 or the 595 RS-R) and decent coilovers. Put the semi's on separate rims, 17x8.5 lightweights and use them for the track. You'll end up paying less for daily tyres and have a better all rounder for track days.