Sway Bar for SP20 2003 - Page 3

twilightprotege · 13-08-2004, 12:44 PM

we'll see if we can get them to make them for us if they reckon we need them...

SFC01 · 13-08-2004, 01:20 PM

One would assume that the mounting bushes would be included in the kit, as they are for the rear bars.

While there is a donor car there might be some advantage in the development of an antilift kit as well. May as well kill two birds with one stone, no?

Wouldn't we all love to get some of the power-on understeer dialled out?

twilightprotege · 13-08-2004, 01:22 PM

yeah that sounds like a good plan to me! i'm all for that!

SFC01 · 13-08-2004, 01:28 PM

I would definately buy an A/L kit were one available.
I don't know that I would bother with a stiffer front bar though...

arden · 13-08-2004, 01:55 PM

Whats does an A/L do?
advantages?

SFC01 · 13-08-2004, 02:04 PM

Dials out some anti-dive/anti-lift geometry. The story is that on power down some of the wheel load is reacted through the chassis, rather than through the springs, which affects the dynamic wheel loading. This in turn reduces the tractive capacity of the front wheels. There is normally an article on the whiteline web site in the technical area, but it has been removed for revision.

preeman80 · 28-08-2004, 02:15 PM

Ordered the rear sway bar, should be ready in 7~ 10 working days.

Zed · 28-08-2004, 11:40 PM

Which one did you end up going with?

twilightprotege · 29-08-2004, 07:26 AM

arden how's things going with peter @ whiteline?

arden · 29-08-2004, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twilightprotege

arden how's things going with peter @ whiteline?

diddly squat.
sent another email to him the other day and still no response.

BigMal · 29-08-2004, 12:29 PM

Have you guys tried the whiteline forum on yahoogroups they respond real
quick on their for anything.

preeman80 · 29-08-2004, 04:17 PM

I got the BFR59Z adjustable.

twilightprotege · 29-08-2004, 07:52 PM

poop. might try emailing him again myself

SFC01 · 29-08-2004, 08:36 PM

Try talking to Wotjek Rogulski at Whiteline. He was the swaybar man when I was dealing with them. I think it was wotjek@....

Good work with the bfr59z. When you get don't be too surprised if you have to massage out some of the mounting holes on the bar blades. - oh and if you do have to don't forget to cover the bare metal with some kind of paint. I have no doubts that you will settle on the stiffest of the settings. :wink:

preeman80 · 05-09-2004, 05:56 PM

okie kidz... the rear sway bar is in, and also at the stiffest setting(?) i assumed that was the first set of holes??

but ya! makes a diff.. :mrgreen:

i thinks, im gonna get a front strut brace and a front sway bar(?).

do you guys think that the front sway bar is any good? (hmm.. better go see if there is such a thing)

SFC01 · 06-09-2004, 10:06 AM

The stiffest setting has the holes closest to the axis of rotation (i.e. shortest legs)

Front strut brace will make a difference compared to none. Not sure how much difference there will be changing out the stock brace on an SP...

arden · 06-09-2004, 05:37 PM

No front sway bar exists for the sp20.
Twilight has contacted Whiteline about the possibility of them making one for us.
and i have volunteered my car for the development but am still waiting to hear confirmation from them.

preeman80 · 06-09-2004, 06:52 PM

good stuff... are you running a front strut brace? (whiteline)

twilightprotege · 06-09-2004, 07:28 PM

arden, you still havent heard back from pete?

arden · 06-09-2004, 08:24 PM

nope, i emailed him rite after u forwarded me his email

13-08-2004, 01:20 PM	#42
SFC01 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mordialloc, VIC Posts: 167	One would assume that the mounting bushes would be included in the kit, as they are for the rear bars. While there is a donor car there might be some advantage in the development of an antilift kit as well. May as well kill two birds with one stone, no? Wouldn't we all love to get some of the power-on understeer dialled out? __________________ SFC01 2003 BJII Astina Rampod/CAI, Adjustable Rear ARB, Strut Brace, slotted rotors RB156 pads, TWM Short Shifter + Kartboy shifter bushings

13-08-2004, 01:28 PM	#44
SFC01 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mordialloc, VIC Posts: 167	I would definately buy an A/L kit were one available. I don't know that I would bother with a stiffer front bar though... __________________ SFC01 2003 BJII Astina Rampod/CAI, Adjustable Rear ARB, Strut Brace, slotted rotors RB156 pads, TWM Short Shifter + Kartboy shifter bushings

13-08-2004, 01:55 PM	#45
arden Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Car: Suby Posts: 1,280 View Photos By: arden	Whats does an A/L do? advantages? __________________

13-08-2004, 02:04 PM	#46
SFC01 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mordialloc, VIC Posts: 167	Dials out some anti-dive/anti-lift geometry. The story is that on power down some of the wheel load is reacted through the chassis, rather than through the springs, which affects the dynamic wheel loading. This in turn reduces the tractive capacity of the front wheels. There is normally an article on the whiteline web site in the technical area, but it has been removed for revision. __________________ SFC01 2003 BJII Astina Rampod/CAI, Adjustable Rear ARB, Strut Brace, slotted rotors RB156 pads, TWM Short Shifter + Kartboy shifter bushings

28-08-2004, 11:40 PM	#48
Zed SQL SP20 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney, NSW Car: 2003 323 Astina SP20 Posts: 190 View Photos By: Zed	Which one did you end up going with? __________________ Alpine - AVI - JL Audio - Image Dynamics - Coustic - Audiocontrol Dynamat - Focal - Streetwires David Navone Engineering

13-08-2004, 12:44 PM	#41
twilightprotege Driving a faster car now! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Work, always at bloody work... Car: Lotus ....... . Posts: 5,217 View Photos By: twilightprotege	we'll see if we can get them to make them for us if they reckon we need them...

13-08-2004, 01:22 PM	#43
twilightprotege Driving a faster car now! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Work, always at bloody work... Car: Lotus ....... . Posts: 5,217 View Photos By: twilightprotege	yeah that sounds like a good plan to me! i'm all for that!

28-08-2004, 02:15 PM	#47
preeman80 AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sydney, AUS Car: SP20 BJII Hatch Posts: 446	Ordered the rear sway bar, should be ready in 7~ 10 working days.

29-08-2004, 07:26 AM	#49
twilightprotege Driving a faster car now! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Work, always at bloody work... Car: Lotus ....... . Posts: 5,217 View Photos By: twilightprotege	arden how's things going with peter @ whiteline?

29-08-2004, 12:29 PM	#51
BigMal 1ST BA TURBO MEMBER Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sydney Car: BA Astina Turbo Posts: 4,195 View Photos By: BigMal	Have you guys tried the whiteline forum on yahoogroups they respond real quick on their for anything. __________________ If you want wind in your hair add a Hairdryer !!!

29-08-2004, 04:17 PM	#52
preeman80 AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sydney, AUS Car: SP20 BJII Hatch Posts: 446	I got the BFR59Z adjustable.

29-08-2004, 07:52 PM	#53
twilightprotege Driving a faster car now! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Work, always at bloody work... Car: Lotus ....... . Posts: 5,217 View Photos By: twilightprotege	poop. might try emailing him again myself

29-08-2004, 08:36 PM	#54
SFC01 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mordialloc, VIC Posts: 167	Try talking to Wotjek Rogulski at Whiteline. He was the swaybar man when I was dealing with them. I think it was wotjek@.... Good work with the bfr59z. When you get don't be too surprised if you have to massage out some of the mounting holes on the bar blades. - oh and if you do have to don't forget to cover the bare metal with some kind of paint. I have no doubts that you will settle on the stiffest of the settings. :wink: __________________ SFC01 2003 BJII Astina Rampod/CAI, Adjustable Rear ARB, Strut Brace, slotted rotors RB156 pads, TWM Short Shifter + Kartboy shifter bushings

05-09-2004, 05:56 PM	#55
preeman80 AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sydney, AUS Car: SP20 BJII Hatch Posts: 446	okie kidz... the rear sway bar is in, and also at the stiffest setting(?) i assumed that was the first set of holes?? but ya! makes a diff.. :mrgreen: i thinks, im gonna get a front strut brace and a front sway bar(?). do you guys think that the front sway bar is any good? (hmm.. better go see if there is such a thing)

06-09-2004, 10:06 AM	#56
SFC01 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mordialloc, VIC Posts: 167	The stiffest setting has the holes closest to the axis of rotation (i.e. shortest legs) Front strut brace will make a difference compared to none. Not sure how much difference there will be changing out the stock brace on an SP... __________________ SFC01 2003 BJII Astina Rampod/CAI, Adjustable Rear ARB, Strut Brace, slotted rotors RB156 pads, TWM Short Shifter + Kartboy shifter bushings

06-09-2004, 05:37 PM	#57
arden Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Car: Suby Posts: 1,280 View Photos By: arden	No front sway bar exists for the sp20. Twilight has contacted Whiteline about the possibility of them making one for us. and i have volunteered my car for the development but am still waiting to hear confirmation from them. __________________

06-09-2004, 06:52 PM	#58
preeman80 AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sydney, AUS Car: SP20 BJII Hatch Posts: 446	good stuff... are you running a front strut brace? (whiteline)

06-09-2004, 07:28 PM	#59
twilightprotege Driving a faster car now! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Work, always at bloody work... Car: Lotus ....... . Posts: 5,217 View Photos By: twilightprotege	arden, you still havent heard back from pete?

06-09-2004, 08:24 PM	#60
arden Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sydney Car: Suby Posts: 1,280 View Photos By: arden	nope, i emailed him rite after u forwarded me his email __________________

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