My aussie SP20 with MSP turbo bits = sweet - Page 8

JDM323 · 13-05-2013, 10:29 PM

great progress Pete

HAIGHIE · 13-05-2013, 10:44 PM

what gear set was it the hole thing or just like 3rd gear??

familiagtx · 13-05-2013, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JDM323

great progress Pete

Finally near the finish line now

...

I have par full straight cut synchromesh engagement 1st to 4th gear and a factory standard 5th gear (quiet) and mazdaspeed LSD

Still worried about the excess noise when using gears 1st to 4th, but we will find out

ghetto3 · 14-05-2013, 12:15 AM

Excess noise? Dude i would use an audio dub of it as a lullaby to get me off to sleep at night!
You better youtube it..

Mad Mat · 14-05-2013, 08:15 AM

I was talking to a Toyota nut the other day (when I was getting my engine mounts made up) and he has been running PAR gear sets for years in his street and race Mr2's... there are Pros and Cons with them...

Pros:
- They allow you to shift better at high rpm
- They are stronger
- They make an awesome noise
- On most tracks they can give you up to a 3second faster lap time

Cons;
- servicing them is a biatch (you have to change the fluid constantly as the gears shed)
- They usually only last a season of racing as they are strong BUT brittle
- COST COST COST $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

That’s all I can remember atm. I don’t mean to be a pain or anything... just wanna let you know what i know/have been told.

familiagtx · 14-05-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ghetto3

Excess noise? Dude i would use an audio dub of it as a lullaby to get me off to sleep at night!
You better youtube it..

Haha

MP5T has a good clip of his car with his par gearset including straight cut crown wheel and pinion which would be noisier than my standard helical cut I think

familiagtx · 14-05-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Mat

I was talking to a Toyota nut the other day (when I was getting my engine mounts made up) and he has been running PAR gear sets for years in his street and race Mr2's... there are Pros and Cons with them...

Pros:
- They allow you to shift better at high rpm
- They are stronger
- They make an awesome noise
- On most tracks they can give you up to a 3second faster lap time

Cons;
- servicing them is a biatch (you have to change the fluid constantly as the gears shed)
- They usually only last a season of racing as they are strong BUT brittle
- COST COST COST $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

That’s all I can remember atm. I don’t mean to be a pain or anything... just wanna let you know what i know/have been told.

This is the first straight cut par gearset that I've owned. I have purchase plenty of neo synthetic gearbox oil purchased from par engineering as per their recommendation.

My other mates that have had these gear sets have lasted years without any special maintainence, apart from changing oils on a regular basis

familiagtx · 15-05-2013, 08:43 PM

Car is alive.
Started up and sings like an angel.

Scheduled for running in tomorrow on the dyno and adjust fuel and ignition trims.

BG1.8sp · 16-05-2013, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by familiagtx

Car is alive.
Started up and sings like an angel.

Scheduled for running in tomorrow on the dyno and adjust fuel and ignition trims.

lol Pete... typing like a boss...

Its ok... we all know you are jumping up and down, giggling like a little school girl now

familiagtx · 16-05-2013, 06:22 AM

Yep

Looking more promising to attend the cruise/meet up

joshua_james_HUB32T · 16-05-2013, 08:47 PM

looks great pete :-) hope to see you and your beast soon

Mad Mat · 16-05-2013, 08:53 PM

Sssooo pete.. How did it go???

familiagtx · 16-05-2013, 09:01 PM

Motor has been ran in today.
Didn't have my phone with me to record the dyno action.

Ran 120kw at full noise 4500rpm

Not going to do any further tuning until I run up some Kms and change to a normal oil

Car is ready to pickup Friday night, but will pickup on Saturday morning if I can't get out of work early

Ice88 · 17-05-2013, 05:07 PM

D day huh.

familiagtx · 17-05-2013, 05:23 PM

Just picking up the partner from work, if I make it to Hi-Comp before they close, I'll pick it up tonight

familiagtx · 17-05-2013, 09:31 PM

Car is home now.

The car now sounds like a Sebastian Loeb rally car from 1st to 4th.

I can always change my mind and install my stock box back if it annoys the **** out of me

HAIGHIE · 17-05-2013, 09:58 PM

And haighie will buy that one off you

Hammo · 17-05-2013, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HAIGHIE

And haighie will buy that one off you

bloody mr money bags over here.

glad its finally going pete

Mad Mat · 18-05-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by familiagtx

- Yes we didnt anticipate the length differences as we only discovered these with final assembly.

Definitely it would of been cheaper and faster with new pauter rods if I purchased together with the pistons from speedcircuit.

Cant do much now.

- The compression ratio is measured correct: 10.8

hey man,

are these figures correct?? the stroke is 92mm not 92.5mm. to change the stroke u have to change ur crank. increasing ur rod length wont increase your stroke. iicr

familiagtx · 18-05-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HAIGHIE

And haighie will buy that one off you

Hmmm....

Stay tuned

13-05-2013, 10:29 PM	#141
JDM323 Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: North Qld Car: 2002 BJ2 protege Posts: 1,241	great progress Pete __________________ http://www.astinagt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18798 WORKLOG

13-05-2013, 10:44 PM	#142
HAIGHIE Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: wollongong Car: 99, BJ 323 astina hatch Posts: 1,506	what gear set was it the hole thing or just like 3rd gear?? __________________ Cars .. 1: 241kw Turbo 1999 BJ 323 Astina . 2: 1983 ke70 Corolla. 3: 2011 PK Ranger Wildtrak (tow car )

14-05-2013, 08:15 AM	#145
Mad Mat HONEYWELL REPRESENT Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Salisbury - Inner City Car: 1997 BA Hardtop - Had a 2003 BJii J48 Sport20, and 2x bg SOHC astina hatches Posts: 5,011 View Photos By: Mad Mat	I was talking to a Toyota nut the other day (when I was getting my engine mounts made up) and he has been running PAR gear sets for years in his street and race Mr2's... there are Pros and Cons with them... Pros: - They allow you to shift better at high rpm - They are stronger - They make an awesome noise - On most tracks they can give you up to a 3second faster lap time Cons; - servicing them is a biatch (you have to change the fluid constantly as the gears shed) - They usually only last a season of racing as they are strong BUT brittle - COST COST COST $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ That’s all I can remember atm. I don’t mean to be a pain or anything... just wanna let you know what i know/have been told. __________________ PROJECT "Catalina" 1994 323 BG Hatch 2005-2007 Crashed into truck 1991 323 BG Hatch 2007-2008/9 SOLD 2003 BJ SP20 J48 Hatch 2008-2011 Regretfully SOLD 1997 BA I4 Sedan 2012-CURRENT 1985 BF 323 Hatch 2014-2015SOLD 1989 MX5 2015-2015

16-05-2013, 08:53 PM	#152
Mad Mat HONEYWELL REPRESENT Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Salisbury - Inner City Car: 1997 BA Hardtop - Had a 2003 BJii J48 Sport20, and 2x bg SOHC astina hatches Posts: 5,011 View Photos By: Mad Mat	Sssooo pete.. How did it go??? __________________ PROJECT "Catalina" 1994 323 BG Hatch 2005-2007 Crashed into truck 1991 323 BG Hatch 2007-2008/9 SOLD 2003 BJ SP20 J48 Hatch 2008-2011 Regretfully SOLD 1997 BA I4 Sedan 2012-CURRENT 1985 BF 323 Hatch 2014-2015SOLD 1989 MX5 2015-2015

16-05-2013, 09:01 PM	#153
familiagtx Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: sydney Car: Mazda BJ SP20 Turbocharged Posts: 629	Motor has been ran in today. Didn't have my phone with me to record the dyno action. Ran 120kw at full noise 4500rpm Not going to do any further tuning until I run up some Kms and change to a normal oil Car is ready to pickup Friday night, but will pickup on Saturday morning if I can't get out of work early Last edited by familiagtx; 16-05-2013 at 09:07 PM.

14-05-2013, 12:15 AM	#144
ghetto3 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: north coast nsw Car: 97 ba 1.8 323 Posts: 799	Excess noise? Dude i would use an audio dub of it as a lullaby to get me off to sleep at night! You better youtube it..

15-05-2013, 08:43 PM	#148
familiagtx Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: sydney Car: Mazda BJ SP20 Turbocharged Posts: 629	Car is alive. Started up and sings like an angel. Scheduled for running in tomorrow on the dyno and adjust fuel and ignition trims.

16-05-2013, 06:22 AM	#150
familiagtx Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: sydney Car: Mazda BJ SP20 Turbocharged Posts: 629	Yep Looking more promising to attend the cruise/meet up

16-05-2013, 08:47 PM	#151
joshua_james_HUB32T Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Penrith, Sydney Car: 2001 bj mazda astina 323 sp20 Posts: 38	looks great pete :-) hope to see you and your beast soon

17-05-2013, 05:07 PM	#154
Ice88 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Auchenflower, Brisbane Car: Blue SP20 Posts: 2,782	D day huh. __________________

17-05-2013, 05:23 PM	#155
familiagtx Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: sydney Car: Mazda BJ SP20 Turbocharged Posts: 629	Just picking up the partner from work, if I make it to Hi-Comp before they close, I'll pick it up tonight

17-05-2013, 09:31 PM	#156
familiagtx Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: sydney Car: Mazda BJ SP20 Turbocharged Posts: 629	Car is home now. The car now sounds like a Sebastian Loeb rally car from 1st to 4th. I can always change my mind and install my stock box back if it annoys the **** out of me

17-05-2013, 09:58 PM	#157
HAIGHIE Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: wollongong Car: 99, BJ 323 astina hatch Posts: 1,506	And haighie will buy that one off you __________________ Cars .. 1: 241kw Turbo 1999 BJ 323 Astina . 2: 1983 ke70 Corolla. 3: 2011 PK Ranger Wildtrak (tow car )