bpt vs bpd intake manifold

[Rupewrecht]

Yeah, there is the Bee*R ones and also another one that popped up recently that started with a G that i didn't bother to post up.

[dave0r]

i personally wouldnt touch a "CHIP" as they are too limited in the options for upgrades..unless you can get a custom one created for your current setup (think $$)

ie might take 18psi OMG...but thats been tuned for a VJ20 turbo , and you have a TD05 etc, it'll melt the pistons

by a full aftermarket setup :P

[zappy65]

well at the moment all i have thought of is:
GTX halfcut
GTR Conrods from Corksports
HKS Adjustable Cams
Cam regrind (if needed, highly doubt it)
Mazdaspeed Oil Pump (Maybe but will definetly get a new one)
New Water pump
all new seals and gaskets (including head gasket)
all new engine mounts
all new belts
a head flow job on NA or GTX head (Dont know yet)
Re Ring.....
New Clutch
Turbo rebuild (depends on turbo setup)
3" dump pipe and exhaust
FMIC
BOV
Turbotech boost controller...( as per gav's opinion)
GTX ECU until financial status improves....
along with little nick nacks like heat wrap and painting bites and pieces to look good....im going for a strong reliable engine that can handle upgrades down the track without being reopened. I also think rebuilding with stronger parts will pass any fears of the engines age as Cosmo mentioned earlier...i think purchasing the halfcut will prevent most unwanted hassles in accordance with parts that function differently or dont exist on the NA engine at all....some of which i dont know of yet....im doing the work myself and have most of the tools at my disposal.
ATM im looking at Cryogenics as it is cheap and i have heard that it is worth its weight in gold....strength wise...im using my G series gear box and selling my BP engine bits later down the track ( with or without the head) ive been told by some that the GTX head is rather resiliant to stress and can handle up to 30psi but being reliable, i think is a different story...i have written down and planned most things but my book is at work so these are just off the top of my head.....

[project.r.racing]

add forged pistons into the list, and you be set for any boost upgrade last on...

ryan

[zappy65]

i was told that the GTX piston crowns would suffice and forged means wearing quicker.......depends on the next few months of research i spose....but you guys think im on the right track...?

[ROB-80E]

IMO you're missing 3 key ingrediants...Forged pistons, FMIC and Aftermarket ECU. If you ask me, you're making a cake without eggs and flour.

With the amount of work that's going into it, what's waiting another 4-5 months to save up the extra dosh, and put it all together with the right key ingrediants to match what you've already mix in.

[ROB-80E]

Oh, as for forged wearing quicker...pfft, if you've got a **** engine builder, then yeah, wear will be an issue. If it's setup right, they'll be exactly the same. Plus you honestly think you'll outlast the engine?

[zappy65]

yeah well i have thought about the pistons lately and have figured that what you say is correct, the ECU on the other, can just be installed any time after the engine is in the car and i am the engine builder....im doing it all in my garage.....(except for the machining and all) as for FMIC i havent really drove into this concept as yet but hey i still got alot of planning to go really....as for outlasting the car...definetly....once i get sick of it which wont be for awhile, i want to keep her int the family...maybe to my missus....MAYBE....

[zappy65]

Would any be willing to get me any companies or brands with prices, i have seen a similar thread on FL.com and thought it to be quite useful....plus im not really sure if half the brands im looking into are easy to get or competetive in price....chers

[project.r.racing]

wiseco pistons, best me thinkz.

[project.r.racing]

Originally Posted by ROB-80E

With the amount of work that's going into it, what's waiting another 4-5 months to save up the extra dosh, and put it all together with the right key ingrediants to match what you've already mix in.

so totally agreed!!!

[zappy65]

what about conrods...i was thinking corksports

[project.r.racing]

could do, or for $150 you could get B6T ones

[chicaboo]

B6T rods will punch the wristpins through the top of stock pistons over 20psi and not suffer much damage from it. You might not wanna reuse them after that, but just saying they are relatively strong...

Gav.

[zappy65]

so B6T conrods are just as strong as GTR and obviously the same size....are thet H beam? DO you all see why i suggested a mechanics day....knowledge from people like Gav and Ryan would be indespensable......but dont let that get to ya heads ay....lol

[ROB-80E]

I wouldn't say that...GTR rods are alot more even in their shape, plus alot smoother surface finish. With the amount of R&D that went into the GTR engine, i doubt they would have put something in that would have been an inferior spec to something already developed.

There's a pic floating around showing all 3 side by side.

[chicaboo]

I know the pic you speak of Rob. Well, the BPD Rods are the widest at the wrist-pin, tapering out wider at the big-end (half way between the BPT and B6T). The BPT rods are the same width for their whole length (narrow at that). And the B6T rods are monster beefcake at the big-end, and reasonably close in width to the BPT rods at the wrist pin (slightly bigger?)... The BPD rods are so smooth they look forged! I reckon if you don't plan on exceding 18psi, that B6T rods are fine. I wouldn't trust BPT rods for too much though...

Gav.

[zappy65]

yeah well after a quick look at what FMIC means...lol....definetly...i thouhgt this was a no brainer but then remembered that its not on my list, apparently theres a dude on FL.com who makes FMIC kits for BG's so im going to investigate, and no, i have never heard anyone say anything good about the BPT conrods after about 15psi....as for the FMIC ( i love this abbreviation) ill investigate over the coming months, maybe even take pics of memebers if at all possible...hint hint....

[ROB-80E]

PWR Aero II 600x300x73

Was a bit of a mission to fit, fair bit of chopping had to be done with the angle grinder...but it's in perfectly.

[zappy65]

what holds i up ther? do the kits come with brackets or do you fabricate your own or do you use zip ties....JKS:P is there a great pressure drop..?