indicator flash speed

[BG1.8sp]

And dunamat, amps, cables, big battery, heavy speakers and subs all add **** loads of weight. May as well just do the alternator man!

[Clean_Cookie]

im going to invest in something larger. most likely see what the commodores have and see if theres any bigger which are common/cheap.

[HAIGHIE]

Originally Posted by BG1.8sp

And dunamat, amps, cables, big battery, heavy speakers and subs all add **** loads of weight. May as well just do the alternator man!

haha i know i know lol

so back on topic go with the first idea, or what rupe suggested or it's pointless, for power reasons the only benifit is the superior ambour brightness

[Clean_Cookie]

A resistor in series with the load (i.e the bulb) will just add up to what the original bulb did. Saving nothing power wise. The first way is the proper way. Also he has a BA. Bj are slightly different. Just try one and see what happens! You might discover something cool.

[HAIGHIE]

i'm temted i don't really care about power just don't see the point in going to soldering in a resistor to get just a brighter orange flash with out any power saving advantage. nothing against doing it just seems alot of money and time for nothing. but thats just my personal opinion, an admire people that do, do it i always wondered in there was a lower rated flasher relay just to make it an easy swap, i may just do it

[himynameisbunny]

Originally Posted by HAIGHIE

i'm temted i don't really care about power just don't see the point in going to soldering in a resistor to get just a brighter orange flash with out any power saving advantage. nothing against doing it just seems alot of money and time for nothing. but thats my opinion an admire people that do, do it i always wondered in there was a lower rated flasher relay just to make it an easy swap, i may just do it

Yeah there is one. 99% certain it'll fit a BA (looks to be the same pinout) not sure about a BJ.

It can be found here

Anybody feel free to correct me on this - I'm thinking of getting one shortly.

[ghetto3]

Try and see is exactly what I've been doing although it seems rather blindly compared to some of those responses! I followed a thread on clubroadster and just grabbed a heap of resistors and went for it. 330k is a bit slow, I've tried 980k,660k,440k all too slow.
Service life of LEDs compared to incandescent bulbs is a good enough reason to do it. More jaycar trips to come.

[rodhog]

Just on the whole - Alternator issue.

Once you have over gone load from stock- you already lost performance. Especially on some cars where the regulator is controlled by the ECU. Certain mazda 323's have it.

Whole reason soon as you put more strain on it - it loads up more on the engine - in turn requires more HP ot turn it.

The same issues apply to most alternators in that new ones over older models - of course depending on age. The newer ones like new VVTI engines have broader out put over larger range.

I had in my old system that was running a main fuse of 120AMp's a 1 farrad Cap. And it was fine for the 15inch I had. But it still needed a 650CCA battery. Yet once the late model Bosch alternator was fitted. only a dim at idel at 1200rpm with A/C on lights - No issues. just that 800rpm was just not enough to keep it right. Irony mazda fitted larger pully on later models (this was on my S1 Mx-6)

The learnt.

[Clean_Cookie]

Originally Posted by HAIGHIE

i'm temted i don't really care about power just don't see the point in going to soldering in a resistor to get just a brighter orange flash with out any power saving advantage. nothing against doing it just seems alot of money and time for nothing. but thats just my personal opinion, an admire people that do, do it i always wondered in there was a lower rated flasher relay just to make it an easy swap, i may just do it

It doesn't make the leds less bright. It makes them flash at different rates.

[HAIGHIE]

Originally Posted by Clean_Cookie

It doesn't make the leds less bright. It makes them flash at different rates.

Yer i know that, what i was saying id that the only reason people would change to L.E.D's is for the bright orange colour that they produce, because if you put the resistors in then it's just use's the same amount of power hence being pointless for energy saving

[himynameisbunny]

Originally Posted by HAIGHIE

Yer i know that, what i was saying id that the only reason people would change to L.E.D's is for the bright orange colour that they produce, because if you put the resistors in then it's just use's the same amount of power hence being pointless for energy saving

Hence why you go with a aftermarket relay

[project.r.racing]

Mazda flasher relay - is it a 3 pin with the positive on the left or the right?

[himynameisbunny]

Originally Posted by project.r.racing

Mazda flasher relay - is it a 3 pin with the positive on the left or the right?

As per this thread it seems that the BA's flasher is a 7 pin.

Or are we talking about the BJ - I've confused myself lol.

EDIT: The 2001-2003 Proteges use the same flasher - if the BA and the BJII use the same one I guess the BJ would use the same one too?

[Clean_Cookie]

wow you guys are all confused. what ghetto has discovered is essentially BUYING AN AFTERMARKET UNIT. except a resistor costs $0.10 and a flasher unit costs like $25. it will be the same "mod" regardless of which option you choose. it is only influencing the speed at which the light flashes, in the control side of the circuit. It WILL save power, and not affect brightness. however if you do the way rupe has done it, it WILL NOT save power, and be the same brightness...

[himynameisbunny]

Originally Posted by Clean_Cookie

wow you guys are all confused. what ghetto has discovered is essentially BUYING AN AFTERMARKET UNIT. except a resistor costs $0.10 and a flasher unit costs like $25. it will be the same "mod" regardless of which option you choose. it is only influencing the speed at which the light flashes, in the control side of the circuit. It WILL save power, and not affect brightness. however if you do the way rupe has done it, it WILL NOT save power, and be the same brightness...

I can't understand why you'd solder in resistors if you could just plug in another relay

Edited my post above regarding the relay.

[Clean_Cookie]

because it would take less time for me to find my soldering iron, heat it up, remove the one resistor, and solder a new one in than it would to find one on ebay, login to paypal, pay for it and sit back down? and because its DIY what could be more exciting than experimenting especially when its such a cheap mod?

this could also be used with stock lights to increase or decrease the speed too.

[ghetto3]

A slightly lower value like a 290k might suit too, either 1/2 or 1 watt doesn't seem to matter. Maybe having a combination of bulbs and LEDs might affect speed too.

[project.r.racing]

I'd prefer to buy the relay if some can confirm which one it is.

[Rupewrecht]

Save power, schmave power As long as it works!

[HAIGHIE]

Originally Posted by project.r.racing

I'd prefer to buy the relay if some can confirm which one it is.

exactly as what i tryed saying, you just said it in a much simpler way lol

Originally Posted by Rupewrecht

Save power, schmave power As long as it works!

totally agreed