EOI: switchblade keyfob for BJ 323/KN-KQ laser - Page 2

phildough · 04-02-2010, 11:18 AM

I have found a place that sells the blank keys with chips in them for $25.
So we will have to buy the switchblade key and buy a blank key with chip then transplant the chip and the contents of the fob remote into the new housing.
Marc i can PM you my number and you can call me if you have any questions.

Orion · 04-02-2010, 12:43 PM

Sound promising guys. Thanks to Marc and Phil for all the leg work on this one

Marc, perhaps you add the cost of the blank keys into the first post.

It doesn't look like it will be too hard of a job after all

marcs_sp20 · 04-02-2010, 01:12 PM

I have updated the first post to reflect the additional $25 for blank key incorporating the immobiliser chip.

Phil I'll talk to you about this in more detail at the Dyno day

Think you'll have your one done by then? no pressure

The list so far is:

Marcs_sp20 - 2
Mat Mat - 1
Orion - 1
tc3_racer - 1
D Valerius - 1
ScratchNSniff - 1
Total - 7

ScratchNSniff, whats your postal address, and I'll work out how much postage would be to the US

Cheers
Marc

D Valerius · 04-02-2010, 01:30 PM

[strike]I shouldnt need the blank key if i have 2 sets for my car already right?, im ok with butchering the unused one.[/strike]

Never mind i re read 1st post.

marcs_sp20 · 04-02-2010, 01:50 PM

Hey Jason,

totally up to you mate, I have both sets for my car (which 1 pair is the with the missus

), so will only butcher my keyfob and purchase another blank key so my original key is still intact

D Valerius · 04-02-2010, 02:27 PM

Yea i get that now, thanks

02-KQ-LASR · 04-02-2010, 09:25 PM

ill get one. theyre cheap enough.
but can you get them in any other layouts?
i dont have a stock alarm anymore. i use an aftermarket one...

marcs_sp20 · 04-02-2010, 09:31 PM

I would rather stay with the one design, makes things simpler to purchase

And considering the others you can get, this one seems to be the sturdiest design...
So do you not use the OEM keyfob at all?

02-KQ-LASR · 04-02-2010, 09:41 PM

na i dont....
let me think about it for a few days..
i might jst get it an see if i can make it work

ScratchNSniff · 05-02-2010, 11:32 AM

2 Summer Valley Ct.
Greer, South Carolina

marcs_sp20 · 05-02-2010, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScratchNSniff

2 Summer Valley Ct.
Greer, South Carolina

Post to anywhere in the US (via airmail) is $9.30aud, which brings the total (with the switchblade) to around $35usd

marcs_sp20 · 05-02-2010, 01:48 PM

If we can get the 10 confirmed by the end of the month, I will start asking for monies to get the ball rolling

Phil is currently in talks in regards to the chips/keys so I will keep you posted when I know anything, thanks again for doing aye

Cheers
Marc

phildough · 05-02-2010, 08:41 PM

Hi
What I need to know is everyones key the same all the way thru the BJ's life?
Is a BJI key the same as a BJII and BJII-J48?

The reason I ask is that my key is different than what is shown in the guide as per first post. Im led to believe it has a tiny chip hidden in the rubber.

I have heard the first model BJ's had a different key.
Im not sure if all cars have the same immobiliser chip or not.
Can you let me know if your keys/remote are the same or different thanks.

This is my key is everyone elses the same?
I have a BJ II J-48

Will make it a bit easier for us sourcing the parts.
Thanks
Philthy

marcs_sp20 · 05-02-2010, 08:44 PM

Mines the same

Oh and are the short series movies any good?

phildough · 05-02-2010, 08:53 PM

Some of them aren't too bad.
This ones my favourite.
BMW Films Presents : The Hire - Star
Its a good way to kill a few min on youtube
They were an internet only free movie download a few years ago.
There was a very limited free DVD release and I managed to get 2 copies of it

Orion · 06-02-2010, 01:11 AM

Mine is the same as yours Phil.

At least all the BJ-II's are the same.

Any BJ-I's out there that can confirm or deny their key is the same?

marcs_sp20 · 06-02-2010, 01:14 AM

Im intrigued to see what Luke's Laser one will look like, if he still has it of course...

Rupewrecht · 06-02-2010, 11:44 AM

Slightly offtopic, but for interests sake, here's a variation of the factory fob that does have the 3rd button, but not the big red panic button:

woofy · 06-02-2010, 03:33 PM

For a bit of clarity, the BJ II SP20s all had immobiliser chips, but pretty much none of the other 323s did. When the BJ II J48s came out, they dropped the crappy 1.6L engine and just had the 1.8 and the SP20 2L, both had built in immobilisers in the key.....AFAIK, none of the sedans had the boot button shown above....you had to either use the key or the manual lever in the boot. Not sure about the ones fitted with the alarm though.

phildough · 06-02-2010, 04:05 PM

The first 323 BJ's 98-99 had a different type of immobilizer to the later ones.
The changed them to comply with new laws introduced in 2000.
The later model BJ's have a very complex security system that makes key duplication impossible.
The only way it is possible to add new keys into the car is if you have both sets of keys and a new unused key with chip.
With out 2 sets you will have to go to mazda and have it done by them.
So for those of us with both keys still fully working we can do this.
And the BA uses a very similar key except for an extra groove.
So if a BJ key fits into a BA lock with no issues then should work for BA owners.

04-02-2010, 12:43 PM	#22
Orion SP20 Member! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Car: Mazda SP20 sedan Posts: 1,769 View Photos By: Orion	Sound promising guys. Thanks to Marc and Phil for all the leg work on this one Marc, perhaps you add the cost of the blank keys into the first post. It doesn't look like it will be too hard of a job after all __________________ Exhaust: Autoexe headers; Custom midpipe; Racing Beat catback Engine: AWR mounts; Twiggy cams; Custom CAI; RR Racing UDP; Mishimoto rad EMS: Microtech LT-10; J&S Safeguard; Gearbox: MSP LSD; Fidanza flywheel; 5th gear Rims/Suspension: MX-5 rims; Tokico Illuminas; Eibach Pro-kit; Progress RSB; AutoExe STB Exterior: MSP front lip & rear spoiler; Matt V headlights; AutoExe grill; EDM tails Interior: JVC AVX-77; Autometer gauges; DaveBs; B&M shifter Projects to come: Engine rebuild Last edited by Orion; 05-02-2010 at 12:11 AM. Reason: I cant spell

04-02-2010, 01:12 PM	#23
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	I have updated the first post to reflect the additional $25 for blank key incorporating the immobiliser chip. Phil I'll talk to you about this in more detail at the Dyno day Think you'll have your one done by then? no pressure The list so far is: Marcs_sp20 - 2 Mat Mat - 1 Orion - 1 tc3_racer - 1 D Valerius - 1 ScratchNSniff - 1 Total - 7 ScratchNSniff, whats your postal address, and I'll work out how much postage would be to the US Cheers Marc __________________

04-02-2010, 01:30 PM	#24
D Valerius AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nundah, QLD Car: 2014 GJ Mazda 6 Posts: 317 View Photos By: D Valerius	[strike]I shouldnt need the blank key if i have 2 sets for my car already right?, im ok with butchering the unused one.[/strike] Never mind i re read 1st post. __________________ Last edited by D Valerius; 04-02-2010 at 01:39 PM.

04-02-2010, 01:50 PM	#25
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	Hey Jason, totally up to you mate, I have both sets for my car (which 1 pair is the with the missus ), so will only butcher my keyfob and purchase another blank key so my original key is still intact __________________

04-02-2010, 02:27 PM	#26
D Valerius AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nundah, QLD Car: 2014 GJ Mazda 6 Posts: 317 View Photos By: D Valerius	Yea i get that now, thanks __________________

04-02-2010, 11:18 AM	#21
phildough Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brisneyland, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Frankenstina Posts: 2,868 View Photos By: phildough	I have found a place that sells the blank keys with chips in them for $25. So we will have to buy the switchblade key and buy a blank key with chip then transplant the chip and the contents of the fob remote into the new housing. Marc i can PM you my number and you can call me if you have any questions.

04-02-2010, 09:25 PM	#27
02-KQ-LASR SHO~247 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SA Car: laser kq 2002 Posts: 2,024 View Photos By: 02-KQ-LASR	ill get one. theyre cheap enough. but can you get them in any other layouts? i dont have a stock alarm anymore. i use an aftermarket one... __________________ lots of bj/kn/kq laser parts for sale!! custom boot install(fibreglass boxes),mazda 3 handbrake rachet,power window motors x 2,power window switches, guage rings its all gotta go!!! pm me any offers!!

04-02-2010, 09:31 PM	#28
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	I would rather stay with the one design, makes things simpler to purchase And considering the others you can get, this one seems to be the sturdiest design... So do you not use the OEM keyfob at all? __________________

04-02-2010, 09:41 PM	#29
02-KQ-LASR SHO~247 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SA Car: laser kq 2002 Posts: 2,024 View Photos By: 02-KQ-LASR	na i dont.... let me think about it for a few days.. i might jst get it an see if i can make it work __________________ lots of bj/kn/kq laser parts for sale!! custom boot install(fibreglass boxes),mazda 3 handbrake rachet,power window motors x 2,power window switches, guage rings its all gotta go!!! pm me any offers!!

05-02-2010, 11:32 AM	#30
ScratchNSniff Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Carolina, USA Car: 03.5 Protege5 Posts: 125	2 Summer Valley Ct. Greer, South Carolina

05-02-2010, 01:48 PM	#32
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	If we can get the 10 confirmed by the end of the month, I will start asking for monies to get the ball rolling Phil is currently in talks in regards to the chips/keys so I will keep you posted when I know anything, thanks again for doing aye Cheers Marc __________________

05-02-2010, 08:41 PM	#33
phildough Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brisneyland, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Frankenstina Posts: 2,868 View Photos By: phildough	Hi What I need to know is everyones key the same all the way thru the BJ's life? Is a BJI key the same as a BJII and BJII-J48? The reason I ask is that my key is different than what is shown in the guide as per first post. Im led to believe it has a tiny chip hidden in the rubber. I have heard the first model BJ's had a different key. Im not sure if all cars have the same immobiliser chip or not. Can you let me know if your keys/remote are the same or different thanks. This is my key is everyone elses the same? I have a BJ II J-48 Will make it a bit easier for us sourcing the parts. Thanks Philthy

05-02-2010, 08:44 PM	#34
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	Mines the same Oh and are the short series movies any good? __________________

05-02-2010, 08:53 PM	#35
phildough Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brisneyland, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Frankenstina Posts: 2,868 View Photos By: phildough	Some of them aren't too bad. This ones my favourite. BMW Films Presents : The Hire - Star Its a good way to kill a few min on youtube They were an internet only free movie download a few years ago. There was a very limited free DVD release and I managed to get 2 copies of it

06-02-2010, 01:11 AM	#36
Orion SP20 Member! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Car: Mazda SP20 sedan Posts: 1,769 View Photos By: Orion	Mine is the same as yours Phil. At least all the BJ-II's are the same. Any BJ-I's out there that can confirm or deny their key is the same? __________________ Exhaust: Autoexe headers; Custom midpipe; Racing Beat catback Engine: AWR mounts; Twiggy cams; Custom CAI; RR Racing UDP; Mishimoto rad EMS: Microtech LT-10; J&S Safeguard; Gearbox: MSP LSD; Fidanza flywheel; 5th gear Rims/Suspension: MX-5 rims; Tokico Illuminas; Eibach Pro-kit; Progress RSB; AutoExe STB Exterior: MSP front lip & rear spoiler; Matt V headlights; AutoExe grill; EDM tails Interior: JVC AVX-77; Autometer gauges; DaveBs; B&M shifter Projects to come: Engine rebuild

06-02-2010, 01:14 AM	#37
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	Im intrigued to see what Luke's Laser one will look like, if he still has it of course... __________________

06-02-2010, 11:44 AM	#38
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Slightly offtopic, but for interests sake, here's a variation of the factory fob that does have the 3rd button, but not the big red panic button: __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

06-02-2010, 03:33 PM	#39
woofy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Car: Race Blue RS Octavia hatch, Black Santa Fe Elite Posts: 826 View Photos By: woofy	For a bit of clarity, the BJ II SP20s all had immobiliser chips, but pretty much none of the other 323s did. When the BJ II J48s came out, they dropped the crappy 1.6L engine and just had the 1.8 and the SP20 2L, both had built in immobilisers in the key.....AFAIK, none of the sedans had the boot button shown above....you had to either use the key or the manual lever in the boot. Not sure about the ones fitted with the alarm though.

06-02-2010, 04:05 PM	#40
phildough Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brisneyland, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Frankenstina Posts: 2,868 View Photos By: phildough	The first 323 BJ's 98-99 had a different type of immobilizer to the later ones. The changed them to comply with new laws introduced in 2000. The later model BJ's have a very complex security system that makes key duplication impossible. The only way it is possible to add new keys into the car is if you have both sets of keys and a new unused key with chip. With out 2 sets you will have to go to mazda and have it done by them. So for those of us with both keys still fully working we can do this. And the BA uses a very similar key except for an extra groove. So if a BJ key fits into a BA lock with no issues then should work for BA owners.