SP GT Engine in a BA

Shaggy · 13-09-2006, 09:31 PM

Hi All,

Anyone ever put a 323f BG (SP) GT engine in a BA? Or done any research on the idea?

Cheers

Ben

project.r.racing · 14-09-2006, 04:30 PM

australian models have this already

Shaggy · 14-09-2006, 09:17 PM

?? hmmm

Im taking about the old BP engine used in the 323f BG (SP) GT, into a 323f BA 1.8, remove the 120bhp BA BP and stick a SP 1.8 140bhp engine.

dru · 15-09-2006, 11:57 AM

The SP only came with the 120hp (~93kw?) BP.

Rupewrecht · 15-09-2006, 12:12 PM

The UK BG no cat version of the BP had more power than the cat equipped BG BP, which has a few more KW than the BA BP. i think.

I doubt anyone here's done it, as there'd be no real point unless your original BA BP is stuffed - and sourcing one would be a lot harder.

dru · 15-09-2006, 07:16 PM

I have heard some rumours of a j-spec ecu from the astina sp that increases power to ~98kws?

project.r.racing · 15-09-2006, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dru

I have heard some rumours of a j-spec ecu from the astina sp that increases power to ~98kws?

jap BG ecu = 98kW, jap BA ecu = 99kW - but japan has different atmospheric pressure and tempetures also. so the ecu will work differently than in japan. also tuning is different for higher RON fuels. plus the intake and exhausts are different too. all these factors affect the higher kW ratings.

ryan

Shaggy · 15-09-2006, 08:59 PM

So do you have a CAT on your SP (GT'S) ? Im guessing so? that sucks

I ask the question as a guy here in the UK is trying such a project, though hes going from a 1.5 Z5 engine to the SP (GT) 1.8 BP engine. got issues with drive shafts and hubs. But I dont think you guys got the 1.5 BA over in Aus??

Thanks for the replys though, the J spec ECU's is interesting!

Are you saying the BA BP J epec ECU is better than the E spec?

Ben

project.r.racing · 16-09-2006, 07:19 AM

they probably are, but couldn't confirm it as have never had a euro ecu to play with.

even better again - getting a aftermarket ecu will produce more power again over the jap ecu. another idea to think about.

jap ecu vs. oz ecu (S3, AUG97+)
jap has 7 kW more (don't feel it in 9 year old engine)
jap has more torque at 3300-4800rpm
jap has better fuel economy (dunno why as is producing more power)
jap idles better (alot!)

ryan

dave0r · 21-09-2006, 10:47 AM

My NZ new Astina GT (BG) has a different ECU, Wiring loom...and intake Cam
doesnt have the CAT,

its also ment to have 105kw/145hp , it sure had power in N/a form...as i could just out run vtir civic's and they have 116kw in stock trim

My jap spec astina (eunos 100) has same ecu as every other jdm 1.8 bp ive seen.
UK market must be the same as the NZ market for Specs

13-09-2006, 09:31 PM	#1
Shaggy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: southwest coast, uk Car: 323f BA BPT TURBO Posts: 197 View Photos By: Shaggy	SP GT Engine in a BA Hi All, Anyone ever put a 323f BG (SP) GT engine in a BA? Or done any research on the idea? Cheers Ben __________________ --------------------------------------------- *****TheMysteryMachine***** --------------------------------------------- http://www.club323f.com

14-09-2006, 09:17 PM	#3
Shaggy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: southwest coast, uk Car: 323f BA BPT TURBO Posts: 197 View Photos By: Shaggy	?? hmmm Im taking about the old BP engine used in the 323f BG (SP) GT, into a 323f BA 1.8, remove the 120bhp BA BP and stick a SP 1.8 140bhp engine. __________________ --------------------------------------------- *****TheMysteryMachine***** --------------------------------------------- http://www.club323f.com

15-09-2006, 11:57 AM	#4
dru AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NSW, Sydney. Car: Mazda Astina BG SP Posts: 478 View Photos By: dru	The SP only came with the 120hp (~93kw?) BP. __________________

15-09-2006, 12:12 PM	#5
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	The UK BG no cat version of the BP had more power than the cat equipped BG BP, which has a few more KW than the BA BP. i think. I doubt anyone here's done it, as there'd be no real point unless your original BA BP is stuffed - and sourcing one would be a lot harder. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

15-09-2006, 07:16 PM	#6
dru AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NSW, Sydney. Car: Mazda Astina BG SP Posts: 478 View Photos By: dru	I have heard some rumours of a j-spec ecu from the astina sp that increases power to ~98kws? __________________

14-09-2006, 04:30 PM	#2
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	australian models have this already

15-09-2006, 08:59 PM	#8
Shaggy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: southwest coast, uk Car: 323f BA BPT TURBO Posts: 197 View Photos By: Shaggy	So do you have a CAT on your SP (GT'S) ? Im guessing so? that sucks I ask the question as a guy here in the UK is trying such a project, though hes going from a 1.5 Z5 engine to the SP (GT) 1.8 BP engine. got issues with drive shafts and hubs. But I dont think you guys got the 1.5 BA over in Aus?? Thanks for the replys though, the J spec ECU's is interesting! Are you saying the BA BP J epec ECU is better than the E spec? Ben __________________ --------------------------------------------- *****TheMysteryMachine***** --------------------------------------------- http://www.club323f.com

16-09-2006, 07:19 AM	#9
project.r.racing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: n/a Car: n/a Posts: 10,929	they probably are, but couldn't confirm it as have never had a euro ecu to play with. even better again - getting a aftermarket ecu will produce more power again over the jap ecu. another idea to think about. jap ecu vs. oz ecu (S3, AUG97+) jap has 7 kW more (don't feel it in 9 year old engine) jap has more torque at 3300-4800rpm jap has better fuel economy (dunno why as is producing more power) jap idles better (alot!) ryan

21-09-2006, 10:47 AM	#10
dave0r AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tauranga Car: Astina GT Turbo Posts: 302 View Photos By: dave0r	My NZ new Astina GT (BG) has a different ECU, Wiring loom...and intake Cam doesnt have the CAT, its also ment to have 105kw/145hp , it sure had power in N/a form...as i could just out run vtir civic's and they have 116kw in stock trim My jap spec astina (eunos 100) has same ecu as every other jdm 1.8 bp ive seen. UK market must be the same as the NZ market for Specs __________________ 1996 ST205 Toyota Celica GT4 Gone 1991 Astina GT, 102wkw/138whp Built a KL-ZE 220whp engine for a KF Laser

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