Where do i start? - Advice wanted - Page 4

O-LYM-PIC · 07-04-2003, 11:17 AM

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ost_uid0="JynX"][color=#000000

ost_uid0]Dont buy any AG piping, im going to get a role from the local hardy as its going to be too hard to get dans up and mal is also interested in some so Ill just get a roll and well organise a day to do some installing...[/color

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ost_uid0]yo jynx, if ur gona have a day around here, then im in too mate. so keep me some of that AG.

thanx
manuel[/color

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KittyKatSmack · 07-04-2003, 08:21 PM

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ost_uid9]Honda Driver Bear = Aleks........

We missed by > < that much.....

Hrmmmmmmmm

Next?

But seriously?

I am keen to do the CAI Weekend if
a) I come back from holiday with money
hahahahahahahahaha
*chokes on laughter*
b) some of you guys are willing to be around
c) Jynx willing to hold some of that AG pipe

Unfortunately this weekend looks REAL bad for me.........
I don't wanna miss out, please fellas?
Don't make the kitty beg?

You've heard the saying:
Dog's have Masters, Cat's have Slaves!
or
In Ancient Egypt, Cat's were worshipped as Gods, Cat's have never forgotten this!
or
plain ole please?
:

:

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BigBoyLemonade · 07-04-2003, 08:31 PM

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ost_uid0]ah completely different person!

Im talking southside... ah well I know Aleks too...

I will come round.. I can assist you in grabbing some piping... autobahn sometimes has some really nice stuff at a resonable price[/color

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KittyKatSmack · 07-04-2003, 08:41 PM

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ost_uid0]Awwww Shucks!
Thanks Tony!!!!

Mind you I haven't seen Aleks in (are you ready for this)
YONKS!

hahahahahaha

(the girl is going insane)

Jynx is getting the AG pipe under control, so it is going to be a matter of getting the K&N kit, any other bits and bobs, and getting the timing act together!

Any estimates as to how long the whole process will take?
Does the front end [i

ost_uid0]have[/i

ost_uid0] to come off?
Just trying to figure a way to get it done at the same time as everyone else if possible.

Basically trying not to be a pain in the butt.... I know, it'd make a change for me! :

:

May works better for me, but like everyone else, I don't want to wait either........

Any suggestions?

Any magic wands?

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JynX · 07-04-2003, 09:33 PM

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ost_uid0]It is easier to run the piping with the front end off... but I guess it wouldnt "have" to come off....

Well how we get em all done at the same time.... you do your car... ill do my car

The front bar is easy to get off so dont stress... CAI i estimate would take about an hour inc getting bar on and off. Depends if we need to enlargen the hole in the air box. I will head down to the hardy this week and see if I can pick the pipe up. Ill do my car first and get a procedure down pat so to speak so u others can simply follow suit.

I wasnt planning on having this "day" untill the end of the month.

I will move this post to a new topic so we can get some idea of interest.[/color

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KittyKatSmack · 07-04-2003, 09:39 PM

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ost_uid0]Er.... think I kinda beat ya off the mark off that one, have already started new topic in cruises.....

Prolly about the only time I will beat anyone off the mark around here though

*grins cheekily*

Sounds like a great idea though Jynx!!![/color

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JynX · 07-04-2003, 09:43 PM

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ost_uid0]god damn this always happen to me...

You can organise it then

/me wipes his hands.... lol[/color

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KittyKatSmack · 07-04-2003, 11:41 PM

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ost_uid0]*kitty smacks forehead homer simpson style*

Duoh!

Me in Canberra
Ugg Nugg
You in Sydney
Ugg Nugg

grubble grubble grubble

*kitty is given the red card and sent back to the Litter Box*[/color

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MrShadow · 08-04-2003, 02:31 AM

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ost_uid0][quote

ost_uid0](the girl is going insane)
[/quote

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/me wonders what kitty has been smokin out the back, catnip?? :O[/color

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KittyKatSmack · 08-04-2003, 03:31 AM

[quote

ost_uid0="MrShadow"][color=#000000

ost_uid0][quote

ost_uid0](the girl is going insane)
[/quote

ost_uid0]

/me wonders what kitty has been smokin out the back, catnip?? :O[/color

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ost_uid0]
[color=#736AFF

ost_uid0]Whaddya mean [i

ost_uid0]going[/i

ost_uid0]?
:

:

And you don't smoke catnip..... you roll around in it nekkid!

*purr purr purr*

[/color

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.::Astina|Brad::. · 08-04-2003, 03:44 AM

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ost_uid0]I've just got another stupid CAI question... i'm probably getting heaps paranoid now... But what about water getting into the pipe... i know if water gets sucked up into the engine... well.. bye bye engine yes? also... are people who already have the duct going into the panel filter using some sort of mesh to stop leaves and moths and bugs and other assorted debris going up into the filter box?

oh and 1 more thing... if i just remove my resonator, and not do the ducting yet... it this going to cause any problems?[/color

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KittyKatSmack · 08-04-2003, 04:46 AM

[color=#736AFF

ost_uid0]Have no fear Brad, I already thought of the same questions....
Apparently it would take a lot of *ulp* Suck (yes I said that) to get water up that far, and as for debris, same thing, but then again, that is what the actual filter is for. You just clean it out every couple of months or so I have been told.

I asked a similar question about the resonator, I actually asked if it was possible to gut the existing one as a temporary measure, but it seems that you can't know how it is set up until you crack it open. Being made of plastic, it is just moulded and stuck together.

As for living without one altogether, from what I am seeing here, it seems that you would be better off with a specific intake pipe/hose/thingymajig and just do it right the first time.

*whispers* How'd I do fella's?[/color

ost_uid0]

Aaron · 08-04-2003, 05:16 AM

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ost_uid0]Yeah - Don't worry too much about water injestion if you're just running cold air ducting up into the factory air box. It'd take a lot of work to fill the airbox to the bring and actually end up with water in your motor.

On my last car the CAI was actually designed in such a way that the intake pod sat level with the bottom of the bumper, in a cool area between the gearbox and the front end. Cool air came in through the bumper area as well as from below. Ofcourse this meant that it was like having a drinking straw attached to the motor about 15cm above ground level.

I never had any probs with water, except with the actual filter material getting damp and reducing performance. Ofcourse I didn't do the stupid thing and drive through deep standing water... Splashing was/is OK though.

In some ways I miss that intake - thanks to the shaping of it it "bellowed" at WOT... quite a fearsome noise

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Trav · 10-04-2003, 04:18 AM

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ost_uid0]if you are getting really stressed a the idea of hydrolock (the technical term for f@#$ing your engine when it gets ful of water) you can add what's called a air bypass valve. This goes inline with the CAI tubing and will shut down the system if it starts sucking up water).

Unless you are going to rally in feet of water then probably a waste of $$$.[/color

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Aaron · 10-04-2003, 04:24 AM

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ost_uid0]All the Bypass vavles do is impede flow and let your engine suck water at a higher point

Worthless paying for one when commonsense is free... And from what I heard from people in the US they only work effectively 10% of the time....[/color

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Trav · 10-04-2003, 04:35 AM

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ost_uid0]that'd be right. I've also heard that the valve bit can come out and jam you WOT - very sub optimal...[/color

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Aaron · 10-04-2003, 04:42 AM

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ost_uid0]the worst failure I heard of was one being fitted to an "Iceman" intake on a Neon, this means the bypass valve is mounted AFTER the pod filter.

Essentially what happned is the bypass guts 'dropped' out during a track session, and debris from the failure got sucked up the intake pipe straight into the guys brand new hi-po 2.4L motor (he was running the car with the 2.4L DOHC from a Stratus... basically a big bore version of the stocker)... Cost him USD1000+ to get it back on the road thanks to the head, bores and pistons all being damaged....

And don't forget if it's mounted after the filter it will let unfiltered air into the motor another bad thing....[/color

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KittyKatSmack · 10-04-2003, 11:04 PM

[color=#736AFF

ost_uid9]In the Canberra CAI Day thread in the Cruise folder, I have mentioned a list of all parts required to do the CAI.

I only ask about it because Pr1mo has asked about bushes in regards to the Swaybar, which I know nothing about until tomorrow when I pick it up.

I was wondering if there was a comprehensive list of all the knick knacks <--- spelling?
that are required?
If I am going to do this CAI Day, then I don't want to have to go to the Auto shop 16 times to pick up different clamps, tape or similar.

Also, there was mention of different sized AG pipe by Jynx, and using an old airbox??
What the??

See? I am full of dumb questions, and I'm not even blonde!!!

[/color

ost_uid9]

Rupewrecht · 10-04-2003, 11:16 PM

[quote

ost_uid0="KittyKatSmack"][color=#000000

ost_uid0]See? *I am full of dumb questions, and I'm not even blonde!!![/color

ost_uid0][/quote

ost_uid0]
[color=#000000

ost_uid0]but it's the dumb brunettes that dye their hair blonde that give blondes a bad name

:laugh: :O

/me runs away now[/color

ost_uid0]

KittyKatSmack · 10-04-2003, 11:22 PM

[color=#736AFF

ost_uid0]/me throws hair bleaching kit after rupewrecht![/color

ost_uid0]

07-04-2003, 11:17 AM	#61
O-LYM-PIC AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 335	[quoteost_uid0="JynX"][color=#000000ost_uid0]Dont buy any AG piping, im going to get a role from the local hardy as its going to be too hard to get dans up and mal is also interested in some so Ill just get a roll and well organise a day to do some installing...[/colorost_uid0][/quoteost_uid0] [color=#000000ost_uid0]yo jynx, if ur gona have a day around here, then im in too mate. so keep me some of that AG. thanx manuel[/colorost_uid0] __________________ O-LYM-PIC O-LYM-PIC O-LYM-PIC "her name was veronica, she had an ass the size of south america" -wyclef

07-04-2003, 08:21 PM	#62
KittyKatSmack Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Australia Car: Mazda Posts: 3,961	[color=#736AFFost_uid9]Honda Driver Bear = Aleks........ We missed by > < that much..... Hrmmmmmmmm Next? But seriously? I am keen to do the CAI Weekend if a) I come back from holiday with money hahahahahahahahaha chokes on laughter b) some of you guys are willing to be around c) Jynx willing to hold some of that AG pipe Unfortunately this weekend looks REAL bad for me......... I don't wanna miss out, please fellas? Don't make the kitty beg? You've heard the saying: Dog's have Masters, Cat's have Slaves! or In Ancient Egypt, Cat's were worshipped as Gods, Cat's have never forgotten this! or plain ole please? :: [/colorost_uid9]

07-04-2003, 08:31 PM	#63
BigBoyLemonade The Architect Join Date: Jul 1998 Location: Canberra, ACT Car: AUSDM S6 RX7 Posts: 1,600 View Photos By: BigBoyLemonade	[color=#006666ost_uid0]ah completely different person! Im talking southside... ah well I know Aleks too... I will come round.. I can assist you in grabbing some piping... autobahn sometimes has some really nice stuff at a resonable price[/colorost_uid0] __________________ Tony Formally known as Lantis and Xedos Infinite Networks- Creative Web design and powerful online application solutions

07-04-2003, 08:41 PM	#64
KittyKatSmack Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Australia Car: Mazda Posts: 3,961	[color=#736AFFost_uid0]Awwww Shucks! Thanks Tony!!!! Mind you I haven't seen Aleks in (are you ready for this) YONKS! hahahahahaha (the girl is going insane) Jynx is getting the AG pipe under control, so it is going to be a matter of getting the K&N kit, any other bits and bobs, and getting the timing act together! Any estimates as to how long the whole process will take? Does the front end [iost_uid0]have[/iost_uid0] to come off? Just trying to figure a way to get it done at the same time as everyone else if possible. Basically trying not to be a pain in the butt.... I know, it'd make a change for me! :: May works better for me, but like everyone else, I don't want to wait either........ Any suggestions? Any magic wands? [/colorost_uid0]

07-04-2003, 09:33 PM	#65
JynX Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,767	[color=#000000ost_uid0]It is easier to run the piping with the front end off... but I guess it wouldnt "have" to come off.... Well how we get em all done at the same time.... you do your car... ill do my car The front bar is easy to get off so dont stress... CAI i estimate would take about an hour inc getting bar on and off. Depends if we need to enlargen the hole in the air box. I will head down to the hardy this week and see if I can pick the pipe up. Ill do my car first and get a procedure down pat so to speak so u others can simply follow suit. I wasnt planning on having this "day" untill the end of the month. I will move this post to a new topic so we can get some idea of interest.[/colorost_uid0] __________________ JynX 1994 Turbo BA Astina 200whp @ 12psi "If you cant drive fast with 90hp..... 900hp wont help you"

07-04-2003, 09:39 PM	#66
KittyKatSmack Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Australia Car: Mazda Posts: 3,961	[color=#736AFFost_uid0]Er.... think I kinda beat ya off the mark off that one, have already started new topic in cruises..... Prolly about the only time I will beat anyone off the mark around here though grins cheekily Sounds like a great idea though Jynx!!![/colorost_uid0]

07-04-2003, 09:43 PM	#67
JynX Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,767	[color=#000000ost_uid0]god damn this always happen to me... You can organise it then /me wipes his hands.... lol[/colorost_uid0] __________________ JynX 1994 Turbo BA Astina 200whp @ 12psi "If you cant drive fast with 90hp..... 900hp wont help you"

07-04-2003, 11:41 PM	#68
KittyKatSmack Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Australia Car: Mazda Posts: 3,961	[color=#736AFFost_uid0]kitty smacks forehead homer simpson style Duoh! Me in Canberra Ugg Nugg You in Sydney Ugg Nugg grubble grubble grubble kitty is given the red card and sent back to the Litter Box[/colorost_uid0]

08-04-2003, 02:31 AM	#69
MrShadow Senior Time-waster Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Airborne somewhere in Aus... Car: 2005 SP23 Hatch Posts: 1,779 View Photos By: MrShadow	[color=#810541ost_uid0][quoteost_uid0](the girl is going insane) [/quoteost_uid0] /me wonders what kitty has been smokin out the back, catnip?? :O[/colorost_uid0] __________________ Gimme a caffeine drip and I'll be right.... Confuscias say "man who go to sleep with itchy bottom, wake up with smelly finger"

08-04-2003, 03:31 AM	#70
KittyKatSmack Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Australia Car: Mazda Posts: 3,961	[quoteost_uid0="MrShadow"][color=#000000ost_uid0][quoteost_uid0](the girl is going insane) [/quoteost_uid0] /me wonders what kitty has been smokin out the back, catnip?? :O[/colorost_uid0][/quoteost_uid0] [color=#736AFFost_uid0]Whaddya mean [iost_uid0]going[/iost_uid0]? :: And you don't smoke catnip..... you roll around in it nekkid! purr purr purr [/colorost_uid0]

08-04-2003, 03:44 AM	#71
.::Astina\|Brad::. Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Syd. Posts: 137	[color=#728FCEost_uid0]I've just got another stupid CAI question... i'm probably getting heaps paranoid now... But what about water getting into the pipe... i know if water gets sucked up into the engine... well.. bye bye engine yes? also... are people who already have the duct going into the panel filter using some sort of mesh to stop leaves and moths and bugs and other assorted debris going up into the filter box? oh and 1 more thing... if i just remove my resonator, and not do the ducting yet... it this going to cause any problems?[/colorost_uid0] __________________ 2Ltr Manual V6 1994 Astina Hardtop With Sunroof +Check My stina in the readers rides area+

08-04-2003, 04:46 AM	#72
KittyKatSmack Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Australia Car: Mazda Posts: 3,961	[color=#736AFFost_uid0]Have no fear Brad, I already thought of the same questions.... Apparently it would take a lot of ulp Suck (yes I said that) to get water up that far, and as for debris, same thing, but then again, that is what the actual filter is for. You just clean it out every couple of months or so I have been told. I asked a similar question about the resonator, I actually asked if it was possible to gut the existing one as a temporary measure, but it seems that you can't know how it is set up until you crack it open. Being made of plastic, it is just moulded and stuck together. As for living without one altogether, from what I am seeing here, it seems that you would be better off with a specific intake pipe/hose/thingymajig and just do it right the first time. whispers How'd I do fella's?[/colorost_uid0]

08-04-2003, 05:16 AM	#73
Aaron Stiff Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canberra, ACT Car: 1994 Lynx BP-T Posts: 1,198 View Photos By: Aaron	[color=#000000ost_uid0]Yeah - Don't worry too much about water injestion if you're just running cold air ducting up into the factory air box. It'd take a lot of work to fill the airbox to the bring and actually end up with water in your motor. On my last car the CAI was actually designed in such a way that the intake pod sat level with the bottom of the bumper, in a cool area between the gearbox and the front end. Cool air came in through the bumper area as well as from below. Ofcourse this meant that it was like having a drinking straw attached to the motor about 15cm above ground level. I never had any probs with water, except with the actual filter material getting damp and reducing performance. Ofcourse I didn't do the stupid thing and drive through deep standing water... Splashing was/is OK though. In some ways I miss that intake - thanks to the shaping of it it "bellowed" at WOT... quite a fearsome noise [/colorost_uid0] __________________ Current: Stinky the imfamous Lynx

10-04-2003, 04:18 AM	#74
Trav AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dixons Creek VIC AU Car: 1995 BA Astina Posts: 370 View Photos By: Trav	[color=#3A6EA5ost_uid0]if you are getting really stressed a the idea of hydrolock (the technical term for f@#$ing your engine when it gets ful of water) you can add what's called a air bypass valve. This goes inline with the CAI tubing and will shut down the system if it starts sucking up water). Unless you are going to rally in feet of water then probably a waste of $$$.[/colorost_uid0] __________________ If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, then perhaps you have misunderstood the situation

10-04-2003, 04:24 AM	#75
Aaron Stiff Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canberra, ACT Car: 1994 Lynx BP-T Posts: 1,198 View Photos By: Aaron	[color=#000000ost_uid0]All the Bypass vavles do is impede flow and let your engine suck water at a higher point Worthless paying for one when commonsense is free... And from what I heard from people in the US they only work effectively 10% of the time....[/colorost_uid0] __________________ Current: Stinky the imfamous Lynx

10-04-2003, 04:35 AM	#76
Trav AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dixons Creek VIC AU Car: 1995 BA Astina Posts: 370 View Photos By: Trav	[color=#3A6EA5ost_uid0]that'd be right. I've also heard that the valve bit can come out and jam you WOT - very sub optimal...[/colorost_uid0] __________________ If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, then perhaps you have misunderstood the situation

10-04-2003, 04:42 AM	#77
Aaron Stiff Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canberra, ACT Car: 1994 Lynx BP-T Posts: 1,198 View Photos By: Aaron	[color=#000000ost_uid0]the worst failure I heard of was one being fitted to an "Iceman" intake on a Neon, this means the bypass valve is mounted AFTER the pod filter. Essentially what happned is the bypass guts 'dropped' out during a track session, and debris from the failure got sucked up the intake pipe straight into the guys brand new hi-po 2.4L motor (he was running the car with the 2.4L DOHC from a Stratus... basically a big bore version of the stocker)... Cost him USD1000+ to get it back on the road thanks to the head, bores and pistons all being damaged.... And don't forget if it's mounted after the filter it will let unfiltered air into the motor another bad thing....[/colorost_uid0] __________________ Current: Stinky the imfamous Lynx

10-04-2003, 11:04 PM	#78
KittyKatSmack Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Australia Car: Mazda Posts: 3,961	[color=#736AFFost_uid9]In the Canberra CAI Day thread in the Cruise folder, I have mentioned a list of all parts required to do the CAI. I only ask about it because Pr1mo has asked about bushes in regards to the Swaybar, which I know nothing about until tomorrow when I pick it up. I was wondering if there was a comprehensive list of all the knick knacks <--- spelling? that are required? If I am going to do this CAI Day, then I don't want to have to go to the Auto shop 16 times to pick up different clamps, tape or similar. Also, there was mention of different sized AG pipe by Jynx, and using an old airbox?? What the?? See? I am full of dumb questions, and I'm not even blonde!!! [/colorost_uid9]

10-04-2003, 11:16 PM	#79
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	[quoteost_uid0="KittyKatSmack"][color=#000000ost_uid0]See? *I am full of dumb questions, and I'm not even blonde!!![/colorost_uid0][/quoteost_uid0] [color=#000000ost_uid0]but it's the dumb brunettes that dye their hair blonde that give blondes a bad name :laugh: :O /me runs away now[/colorost_uid0] __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

10-04-2003, 11:22 PM	#80
KittyKatSmack Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Australia Car: Mazda Posts: 3,961	[color=#736AFFost_uid0]/me throws hair bleaching kit after rupewrecht![/colorost_uid0]

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