Engine Management Systems for 1.8DOHC Turbo

halilcakir · 10-10-2008, 12:44 AM

Hello
A close friend of mine made a custom bolt on turbo install on a 98 1.8DOHC hatch 5 doors Astina(Lantis)
And i tuned it by a Apexi SAFCII.We used orginal injectors so we did not need an EMS before but now we want to go a bigger turbo so i wil need a standalone.
What do you propose to me?I'll be happy if it is a plug and play system.
I'll give some details about car cause can be different at there.
Our engine code : bp297699
Our chasis code : jmzba14p201604140
Thanks
Halil
Here is a few pictures of the car

DavoAust · 10-10-2008, 02:22 AM

thats a very.. unique car. i like the lambo doors, not really a fan of the wheels or kits. the second kit does look better IMO.

its very common over here to use microtech units. they're cheap and its easy enough to find a tuner.

phly · 10-10-2008, 11:33 AM

Thats a nice car you got there. First time i've seen those rear bars and the first one looks pretty good

As for EMS you could also get a Haltech. From the info on their website if you buy the ecu you get the tuning software and stuff too and it sounds like its not too hard to tune with their software.

Other brands of ems out there include Motec, EMS, Wolf, Link and probably alot more

Rupewrecht · 10-10-2008, 11:39 AM

I think the only manufacturer that makes a plug-and-play is Link. Otherwise any of the manufacturers above would work.

RedLineResident · 10-10-2008, 11:45 AM

Love the car.

Looks sweet.

derb · 10-10-2008, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupewrecht

I think the only manufacturer that makes a plug-and-play is Link. Otherwise any of the manufacturers above would work.

just visited the Link site and it looks great. LC1 compatability too!

however, would it work for a BG with a BPT conversion? i'll intro myself properly soon, but i've got a BG thats had a total transplant from from a Familia GTX. as far as i know the whole engine/loom/piping/intercooler/everything was put into the BG and a plug and play system sounds nice.

Rupewrecht · 10-10-2008, 12:07 PM

I don't know on anyone that's actually used one. I know BigMal had one but as far as i know he never used it.

halilcakir · 10-10-2008, 08:03 PM

Thanks for advice.I sent emails to wolf microtech and link.Waiting for answers
Halil

DavoAust · 11-10-2008, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupewrecht

I don't know on anyone that's actually used one. I know BigMal had one but as far as i know he never used it.

didn't someone on here have a white NA bg with a link ecu? davor i think?

halilcakir · 11-10-2008, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavoAust

didn't someone on here have a white NA bg with a link ecu? davor i think?

How can i contact with him?

DavoAust · 11-10-2008, 02:21 PM

Go to his profile and PM:

click here

89sp1.8 · 11-10-2008, 02:38 PM

link are a great ecu,alot better than m/tech in my opinion.
there not that common because they are nz based company,so limited to how many ppl actually know how to tune them over here.

dave0r · 12-10-2008, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavoAust

didn't someone on here have a white NA bg with a link ecu? davor i think?

yup thats me
oh and the car was black btw :P

i did a wire in Link , i never bothered about the apatalink setup

halilcakir · 12-10-2008, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave0r

yup thats me
oh and the car was black btw :P

i did a wire in Link , i never bothered about the apatalink setup

Hello
I have some questions for you.Is this EMS is easy to install like any other plug and play EMS like AEM etc?
Which harness etc i must purchase?
And was it the same engine code motor with yours and mine?This is a 1998 bp

dave0r · 12-10-2008, 04:19 PM

yes 100% plug in if you buy the adapterlink module with the link ECU, no need to purchase a harness
the wire in option was really easy and comes with a harness. the plug in one just uses your current one

no my BP engine was one of the better BP engines created also known as the BP22 or precat engine.

halilcakir · 12-10-2008, 11:36 PM

Ok thanks i hope there is no difference between your car and my car electrical installation

dave0r · 13-10-2008, 01:32 PM

small chance that the BA has different dash connector plugs than the BG (with the adapter link was made for,)
but the main ECU wiring plugs are the same as the BG.

someone here can confirm that for you? Rupewrech maybe??

mussing · 13-10-2008, 01:36 PM

Just curious - in the last photo you can see that there's no door handles on the rear doors. What sort of setup are they on, and how do you open them?

Rupewrecht · 13-10-2008, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave0r

small chance that the BA has different dash connector plugs than the BG (with the adapter link was made for,)
but the main ECU wiring plugs are the same as the BG.

someone here can confirm that for you? Rupewrech maybe??

BP26 i think is 3 plug, and BA was 4 from memory. A different amount either way (one left over), but they did plug in. The pins were in fairly different spots though but can be made to work by doing some swapping.

derb · 13-10-2008, 02:17 PM

some news on this. they are upgrading the BPT ECUs to G4 spec! here's Link's reply after asking if their system would fit my BG.

"Yes would be the likely answer on this one.
We have dropped the G3 range and are now working on a G4 replacement. This will fit the factory enclosure and match the factory loom. Currently this is looking like it will retail for around $1400nz Spec wise it will be very much like the G4 Storm wirein"

NZ$1400=AU$1250, very cheap considering a Mictotech is about 1100-1150 and doesn't come close to play and play. Plus it should support wideband o2 through the Innovate LC-1, which i've used before to great effect. it will be able to run closed loop and auto-tune itself to a preset AFR.

10-10-2008, 12:44 AM	#1
halilcakir Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Turkey Car: LS1 Posts: 8	Engine Management Systems for 1.8DOHC Turbo Hello A close friend of mine made a custom bolt on turbo install on a 98 1.8DOHC hatch 5 doors Astina(Lantis) And i tuned it by a Apexi SAFCII.We used orginal injectors so we did not need an EMS before but now we want to go a bigger turbo so i wil need a standalone. What do you propose to me?I'll be happy if it is a plug and play system. I'll give some details about car cause can be different at there. Our engine code : bp297699 Our chasis code : jmzba14p201604140 Thanks Halil Here is a few pictures of the car Last edited by halilcakir; 10-10-2008 at 01:24 AM. Reason: Pics added

10-10-2008, 02:22 AM	#2
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	thats a very.. unique car. i like the lambo doors, not really a fan of the wheels or kits. the second kit does look better IMO. its very common over here to use microtech units. they're cheap and its easy enough to find a tuner. __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

10-10-2008, 11:33 AM	#3
phly AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sydney Car: 97 BA Astina Hatchback Posts: 384 View Photos By: phly	Thats a nice car you got there. First time i've seen those rear bars and the first one looks pretty good As for EMS you could also get a Haltech. From the info on their website if you buy the ecu you get the tuning software and stuff too and it sounds like its not too hard to tune with their software. Other brands of ems out there include Motec, EMS, Wolf, Link and probably alot more __________________ 1997 Mazda Astina 323 BA Hatchback

10-10-2008, 11:39 AM	#4
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	I think the only manufacturer that makes a plug-and-play is Link. Otherwise any of the manufacturers above would work. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

10-10-2008, 11:45 AM	#5
RedLineResident Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Car: BA V6 Hardtop 5 Speed & 97 Prelude VTIR Posts: 1,518 View Photos By: RedLineResident	Love the car. Looks sweet. __________________ "Amateurs practice until they get it right." "Professionals practice until they can't get it wrong."

10-10-2008, 12:07 PM	#7
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	I don't know on anyone that's actually used one. I know BigMal had one but as far as i know he never used it. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

10-10-2008, 08:03 PM	#8
halilcakir Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Turkey Car: LS1 Posts: 8	Thanks for advice.I sent emails to wolf microtech and link.Waiting for answers Halil

11-10-2008, 02:21 PM	#11
DavoAust Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane Car: Red '93 3000GT / Black '08 Ninja 250R Posts: 2,930 View Photos By: DavoAust	Go to his profile and PM: click here __________________ Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you. '97 1.8L Hardtop '93 3.0L TT 3000GT

11-10-2008, 02:38 PM	#12
89sp1.8 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: brisbane Car: bg astina Posts: 1,186	link are a great ecu,alot better than m/tech in my opinion. there not that common because they are nz based company,so limited to how many ppl actually know how to tune them over here.

12-10-2008, 04:19 PM	#15
dave0r AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tauranga Car: Astina GT Turbo Posts: 302 View Photos By: dave0r	yes 100% plug in if you buy the adapterlink module with the link ECU, no need to purchase a harness the wire in option was really easy and comes with a harness. the plug in one just uses your current one no my BP engine was one of the better BP engines created also known as the BP22 or precat engine. __________________ 1996 ST205 Toyota Celica GT4 Gone 1991 Astina GT, 102wkw/138whp Built a KL-ZE 220whp engine for a KF Laser

12-10-2008, 11:36 PM	#16
halilcakir Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Turkey Car: LS1 Posts: 8	Ok thanks i hope there is no difference between your car and my car electrical installation

13-10-2008, 01:32 PM	#17
dave0r AstinaGT Regular Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tauranga Car: Astina GT Turbo Posts: 302 View Photos By: dave0r	small chance that the BA has different dash connector plugs than the BG (with the adapter link was made for,) but the main ECU wiring plugs are the same as the BG. someone here can confirm that for you? Rupewrech maybe?? __________________ 1996 ST205 Toyota Celica GT4 Gone 1991 Astina GT, 102wkw/138whp Built a KL-ZE 220whp engine for a KF Laser

13-10-2008, 01:36 PM	#18
mussing Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney Car: 1990 323 Astina BG SP Posts: 1,071 View Photos By: mussing	Just curious - in the last photo you can see that there's no door handles on the rear doors. What sort of setup are they on, and how do you open them?

13-10-2008, 02:17 PM	#20
derb Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brisbane Car: 1993 BG Astina GT-X Posts: 1,822 View Photos By: derb	some news on this. they are upgrading the BPT ECUs to G4 spec! here's Link's reply after asking if their system would fit my BG. "Yes would be the likely answer on this one. We have dropped the G3 range and are now working on a G4 replacement. This will fit the factory enclosure and match the factory loom. Currently this is looking like it will retail for around $1400nz Spec wise it will be very much like the G4 Storm wirein" NZ$1400=AU$1250, very cheap considering a Mictotech is about 1100-1150 and doesn't come close to play and play. Plus it should support wideband o2 through the Innovate LC-1, which i've used before to great effect. it will be able to run closed loop and auto-tune itself to a preset AFR.