what do you think is the best bg,bj or ba - Page 3

marcs_sp20 · 13-04-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 02-KQ-LASR

what about kq lasers??? they dont look to bad in the sr2 model.

No need as we're talking about mazdas, not fords

02-KQ-LASR · 14-04-2009, 02:49 PM

same thing.... underneath it all..

marcs_sp20 · 14-04-2009, 05:29 PM

woop woop dead even!!!

Q2CDIS · 14-04-2009, 05:41 PM

BJ all the way.. The only way to drive.. haha

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Originally Posted by marcs_sp20

And it did quite a good job of it

I'll have to show ya's the remnents of the spark plug & butterfly one cruise, nasty stuff!

I've still got my cracked piston from wen mine tryed to chew everthin up...

Ice88 · 14-04-2009, 06:04 PM

BJ ftw!

Edit: Although Ryans BA is sexi

Pettos · 14-04-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcs_SP20

All good, I like to know mine will be left alone at the shopping centre

Well, when I got quotes on insurance for my BJ, the insurance asked me if it was the SP20, because it was gonna be like another 1k more expensive as they said that it was a very high-risk car to insure, because of the theft rate (which was apparently extremely high)...

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Originally Posted by RedLineResident

this strikes me as a poll where the car model with the most owners will win.

Does anyone have a different favourite to the one they actually own?

I was looking at buying an SP20, but when i compared it to my BA, it just didn't cut it. Even though it was newer, it felt flimzier, cheaper and it didn't strike me as a very refined body shape.

But thats just my 2 cents, again i am going to cheer on the BA because i own one.

I personally like the BA, as has been said before in terms of the influence of Porsche... It is much more rigid on the road, stock, than a stock BJ... (plus they had the V6 which is even sexier)...

Saying that, I love my BJ, and dread the day I have to say goodbye to it.

zappy65 · 24-04-2009, 10:05 PM

I think the BG SP is the winner

Elec everything, DOHC engine, sleek, easy for BPT transplant...

From there they just got fatter and lazier...gearboxes turn to sh!t, harder to modify and looking more like a family car, which may appeal to some, but not me...

I HATE the V6 BA, BIGGEST PIECES OF SH!T EVER...every time I work on one i want to jam my spanner in the plug hole....

BJ SP20's are ok...part from VICS and F series

Why would you care if the BA had been touched by some idiot from Porsche, hello they were beaten by MAZDA...ALMOST EVERYWHERE....they know nothing...

Mad Mat · 24-04-2009, 10:11 PM

hmmm ya that tru mate. i still miss my bg. will get another one one day and go ful gtr

i just love the fron of them hey lol

chicaboo · 25-04-2009, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by zappy65

I think the BG SP is the winner

Elec everything, DOHC engine, sleek, easy for BPT transplant...

From there they just got fatter and lazier...gearboxes turn to sh!t,
BJ SP20's are ok...part from VICS and F series.

SP20s have an improved G series box as compared to the BG. The only way to get one better than either of those (using stock parts) is to have a hybrid G series box like I have made from a KE/BF and GD 626 gearbox (diff case) with extra reinforcing...

You forgot to mention the top 2 spot welds letting go on the clutch support bracket in the Astina 1.8/SP20 too. Which in turn lets water in all over the clutch pedal and your left foot.

And you also left out the gayest design feature ever of all time on the BG, those friggin plastic A pillar mould trims (heavily restricted VAF air box, overheating radiator due to lack of airflow, rusting sunroof, rippled sheet metal)...

Gav.

Rupewrecht · 25-04-2009, 03:33 PM

What he said. Even the BA G series box is stronger than the BG one.

chicaboo · 25-04-2009, 03:48 PM

In fact, I'd take a KF/KH NA FWD TX3 over a BG Astina any day of the week... Bah!

My favourite 323 is the BF Turbo SS Super Deluxe (BF 323 GT), but someone left it off the list...

Unfortunately I had to settle for a crappy KE Ford Laser TX3 Turbo given the rarity and high price of a BF SS.

It has quite a soft sloppy chassis, but it still handles really well, and the most important thing of all is:
I like for what IT is, not for what another model car ISN'T. It's 1 of only 2 cars I've owned that made me smile every time I drove it.

Big thanks to MadMat for coming over and helping me remove the broken EGO off the Laser too!

Gav.

zappy65 · 26-04-2009, 09:28 AM

I'd never take a Ford over a Mazda period....Dad used to build the KF/KH and he said they were nothing but trouble, rust not long after new, weak axles etc...

SP20's did have an improved gearbox but who cares, who wants to go into the trouble of fully utilizing it anyway?...its a big rarity that you actually see an SP20 with a considerable amount of torque to use the refined box in the 1st place e.g. BPT etc...

I never had any problem with overheating...EVER...heard lots of rumors about it but it never happened...all i could say about the cooling system is that the top tank cracks, but thats age...

As with the "A" pillar moulds, obviously a design flaw of the 80's, but you would crinkle and crack too if you withstood 30+ degrees of heat, all the chemicals under the sun and highway speeds...lol, mind you I just replaced mine and never had a problem.

We aint talking about fords anyway...BG is better!!!!...lol

BA is elongated family car with optional GAY!!! V6 and a big ass...

BJ is a shopping cart for yo mumers...

BJSP20, Id buy one...for Brooke...

chicaboo · 26-04-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by zappy65

I'd never take a Ford over a Mazda period....Dad used to build the KF/KH and he said they were nothing but trouble, rust not long after new, weak axles etc...

SP20's did have an improved gearbox but who cares, who wants to go into the trouble of fully utilizing it anyway?...its a big rarity that you actually see an SP20 with a considerable amount of torque to use the refined box in the 1st place e.g. BPT etc...

I never had any problem with overheating...EVER...heard lots of rumors about it but it never happened...all i could say about the cooling system is that the top tank cracks, but thats age...

As with the "A" pillar moulds, obviously a design flaw of the 80's, but you would crinkle and crack too if you withstood 30+ degrees of heat, all the chemicals under the sun and highway speeds...lol, mind you I just replaced mine and never had a problem.

We aint talking about fords anyway...BG is better!!!!...lol

BA is elongated family car with optional GAY!!! V6 and a big ass...

BJ is a shopping cart for yo mumers...

BJSP20, Id buy one...for Brooke...

That's awesome Molly, but ppl might respect your opinion more if you didn't have to bag (better/newer/more refined) cars to justify it......

IMO, saying how gay another car is (and giving incorrect information) doesn't make your choice of car carry more weight with other ppl......

Fact: A higher %age of BG Astinas have had heating issues than compared to BJ Astinas/Proteges with their VICS and water leaking issues......

Keep it real!
Gav.

marcs_sp20 · 26-04-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chicaboo

That's awesome Molly, but ppl might respect your opinion more if you didn't have to bag (better/newer/more refined) cars to justify it......

IMO, saying how gay another car is (and giving incorrect information) doesn't make your choice of car carry more weight with other ppl......

Fact: A higher %age of BG Astinas have had heating issues than compared to BJ Astinas/Proteges with their VICS and water leaking issues......

Keep it real!
Gav.

agreed

Rupewrecht · 26-04-2009, 08:25 PM

....Molly?

lol

chicaboo · 26-04-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupewrecht

....Molly?

lol

John *Molly* Meldrum.

Rupewrecht · 26-04-2009, 08:42 PM

Ah of course. I knew i'd heard it when i was up there last but couldn't remember why/his last name

mcwilly · 27-04-2009, 09:20 AM

Bg for sure owned 2. Must have bpt but. Other models are nice just don't have the performance potential the bg has. Every car has issues but newer models haven't got to that age yet

EVADE · 03-05-2009, 12:39 PM

Bjii Baby!

Mad Mat · 03-05-2009, 12:55 PM

BJ's are winning YAY

but i wish the bg was up there to. i miss my old girl

View Poll Results: what do you think is the best bg,bj or ba
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14-04-2009, 02:49 PM	#42
02-KQ-LASR SHO~247 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SA Car: laser kq 2002 Posts: 2,024 View Photos By: 02-KQ-LASR	same thing.... underneath it all.. __________________ lots of bj/kn/kq laser parts for sale!! custom boot install(fibreglass boxes),mazda 3 handbrake rachet,power window motors x 2,power window switches, guage rings its all gotta go!!! pm me any offers!!

14-04-2009, 05:29 PM	#43
marcs_sp20 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ipswich, Queensland Car: 2002 Mazda Astina SP20 2006 Mazda 6 GY Wagon Posts: 9,769 View Photos By: marcs_sp20	woop woop dead even!!! __________________

24-04-2009, 10:05 PM	#47
zappy65 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SE Brissy Car: Old: 1989 DOHC Mazda 323 New: Nissan 180SX Type X Posts: 2,135 View Photos By: zappy65	I think the BG SP is the winner Elec everything, DOHC engine, sleek, easy for BPT transplant... From there they just got fatter and lazier...gearboxes turn to sh!t, harder to modify and looking more like a family car, which may appeal to some, but not me... I HATE the V6 BA, BIGGEST PIECES OF SH!T EVER...every time I work on one i want to jam my spanner in the plug hole.... BJ SP20's are ok...part from VICS and F series Why would you care if the BA had been touched by some idiot from Porsche, hello they were beaten by MAZDA...ALMOST EVERYWHERE....they know nothing... __________________ Today you will die and then you will know what it feels like to live... Straights Are For Fast Cars, Corners Are For Fast Drivers: Colin McRae Visit My Ride: http://www.astinagt.com/forums/vbpic...?do=view&g=319 Come see my deviantness....hehe http://dawnblade.deviantart.com/ Last edited by zappy65; 24-04-2009 at 10:10 PM.

24-04-2009, 10:11 PM	#48
Mad Mat HONEYWELL REPRESENT Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Salisbury - Inner City Car: 1997 BA Hardtop - Had a 2003 BJii J48 Sport20, and 2x bg SOHC astina hatches Posts: 5,011 View Photos By: Mad Mat	hmmm ya that tru mate. i still miss my bg. will get another one one day and go ful gtr i just love the fron of them hey lol __________________ PROJECT "Catalina" 1994 323 BG Hatch 2005-2007 Crashed into truck 1991 323 BG Hatch 2007-2008/9 SOLD 2003 BJ SP20 J48 Hatch 2008-2011 Regretfully SOLD 1997 BA I4 Sedan 2012-CURRENT 1985 BF 323 Hatch 2014-2015SOLD 1989 MX5 2015-2015

14-04-2009, 06:04 PM	#45
Ice88 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Auchenflower, Brisbane Car: Blue SP20 Posts: 2,782	BJ ftw! Edit: Although Ryans BA is sexi

25-04-2009, 03:33 PM	#50
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	What he said. Even the BA G series box is stronger than the BG one. __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

25-04-2009, 03:48 PM	#51
chicaboo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Logan prefecture Car: Touge monster Posts: 7,585	In fact, I'd take a KF/KH NA FWD TX3 over a BG Astina any day of the week... Bah! My favourite 323 is the BF Turbo SS Super Deluxe (BF 323 GT), but someone left it off the list... Unfortunately I had to settle for a crappy KE Ford Laser TX3 Turbo given the rarity and high price of a BF SS. It has quite a soft sloppy chassis, but it still handles really well, and the most important thing of all is: I like for what IT is, not for what another model car ISN'T. It's 1 of only 2 cars I've owned that made me smile every time I drove it. Big thanks to MadMat for coming over and helping me remove the broken EGO off the Laser too! Gav.

26-04-2009, 09:28 AM	#52
zappy65 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SE Brissy Car: Old: 1989 DOHC Mazda 323 New: Nissan 180SX Type X Posts: 2,135 View Photos By: zappy65	I'd never take a Ford over a Mazda period....Dad used to build the KF/KH and he said they were nothing but trouble, rust not long after new, weak axles etc... SP20's did have an improved gearbox but who cares, who wants to go into the trouble of fully utilizing it anyway?...its a big rarity that you actually see an SP20 with a considerable amount of torque to use the refined box in the 1st place e.g. BPT etc... I never had any problem with overheating...EVER...heard lots of rumors about it but it never happened...all i could say about the cooling system is that the top tank cracks, but thats age... As with the "A" pillar moulds, obviously a design flaw of the 80's, but you would crinkle and crack too if you withstood 30+ degrees of heat, all the chemicals under the sun and highway speeds...lol, mind you I just replaced mine and never had a problem. We aint talking about fords anyway...BG is better!!!!...lol BA is elongated family car with optional GAY!!! V6 and a big ass... BJ is a shopping cart for yo mumers... BJSP20, Id buy one...for Brooke... __________________ Today you will die and then you will know what it feels like to live... Straights Are For Fast Cars, Corners Are For Fast Drivers: Colin McRae Visit My Ride: http://www.astinagt.com/forums/vbpic...?do=view&g=319 Come see my deviantness....hehe http://dawnblade.deviantart.com/

26-04-2009, 08:25 PM	#55
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	....Molly? lol __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

26-04-2009, 08:42 PM	#57
Rupewrecht Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: melb.vic.au Car: AZ-1, Astina Hardtop Turbo, BJ Protege, Beetle Posts: 16,525 View Photos By: Rupewrecht	Ah of course. I knew i'd heard it when i was up there last but couldn't remember why/his last name __________________ jdmparts.rupewrecht.com Sourcing your not-quite-overnight parts from Japan WRECHT--\|--SLOWTEGE--\|--BEETLE--\|--SUBSTITUTE--\|--AZ-1

27-04-2009, 09:20 AM	#58
mcwilly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: newcastle NSW Car: 323 astina Posts: 780 View Photos By: mcwilly	Bg for sure owned 2. Must have bpt but. Other models are nice just don't have the performance potential the bg has. Every car has issues but newer models haven't got to that age yet __________________ 340KW @ 24psi....................pb 13.3 @ 118mph (3rd gear issues + wheel spin)

03-05-2009, 12:39 PM	#59
EVADE Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Waipio, Hawaii U.S.A. Car: Protege5/Familia/Sport20 Posts: 106 View Photos By: EVADE	Bjii Baby! __________________ TEAM PRO5 SINCE 2002

03-05-2009, 12:55 PM	#60
Mad Mat HONEYWELL REPRESENT Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Salisbury - Inner City Car: 1997 BA Hardtop - Had a 2003 BJii J48 Sport20, and 2x bg SOHC astina hatches Posts: 5,011 View Photos By: Mad Mat	BJ's are winning YAY but i wish the bg was up there to. i miss my old girl __________________ PROJECT "Catalina" 1994 323 BG Hatch 2005-2007 Crashed into truck 1991 323 BG Hatch 2007-2008/9 SOLD 2003 BJ SP20 J48 Hatch 2008-2011 Regretfully SOLD 1997 BA I4 Sedan 2012-CURRENT 1985 BF 323 Hatch 2014-2015SOLD 1989 MX5 2015-2015